collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

MU Gear by TallTitan34
[Today at 06:53:35 PM]


Maximilian Langenfeld by HutchwasClutch
[Today at 06:34:09 PM]


2024 Transfer Portal by jfp61
[Today at 06:19:23 PM]


Recruiting as of 3/15/24 by Uncle Rico
[Today at 05:33:25 PM]


Big East 2024 Offseason by WhiteTrash
[Today at 04:47:36 PM]


NIL Future by Uncle Rico
[Today at 03:56:29 PM]


Shaka's 2023-2024 Season Accomplishments by LloydsLegs
[Today at 02:48:52 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage  (Read 9598 times)

Milkshakes

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 586
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2022, 08:39:44 PM »
I think Kam Jones starts.  The more I think about it, I think the starters will be:

PG Kolek
G Mitchell
WG  K.Jones
F O-Max
F Oso

Bench

PG Sean Jones
WF Joplin
F Wrightsil
F Gold/Itejere

Wait & See
WG Ross

8 to 9 player rotation, depending on how much Gold/Itejere progress during the season.

I really hope Joplin is in the starting 5 over Mitchell.  I understand Stevie has grown and improved which I can’t wait to see.  I’m pulling for him. I still believe Joplin, K. Jones and Kolek are the most important pieces this year. 

MuggsyB

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13030
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2022, 08:45:11 PM »
I really hope Joplin is in the starting 5 over Mitchell.  I understand Stevie has grown and improved which I can’t wait to see.  I’m pulling for him. I still believe Joplin, K. Jones and Kolek are the most important pieces this year.

It's about whether Joplin can defend.  If he can you may very well be right Hoops. 

Milkshakes

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 586
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2022, 08:59:47 PM »
It’s also about weather Stevie can score.

MuggsyB

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13030
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2022, 09:24:24 PM »
It’s also about weather Stevie can score.

100%.  I mentioned that in another thread.

Jay Bee

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 9052
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2022, 08:51:26 AM »
Kolek for some reason lost confidence with his shot last year and it wreaked havoc on his overall game.  If he can score in the10 pt ange consistently, and be around 50% efg, we'll be okay.

What do you mean by this?

30 game regular season… first 15…. 34.1% eFG%, 22.4% 3fg%…. Last 15… 47.0% and 34.6%…
Thanks for ruining summer, Canada.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22132
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2022, 08:58:41 AM »
What do you mean by this?

30 game regular season… first 15…. 34.1% eFG%, 22.4% 3fg%…. Last 15… 47.0% and 34.6%…

I didn't read Muggsy's post as saying he lost confidence midway through the season. I think he was saying he lost it for the entire season.

32 game season:
40.0% eFG, 28.1% 3P%
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22870
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #81 on: October 12, 2022, 09:24:53 AM »
After our 9-1 streak (including 2 wins against Nova) had us in the national conversation, we limped home with a 3-6 finish. It wasn't Kolek's "fault" that we went 3-6 -- several others also struggled, and our defense/rebounding was poor -- but his inability to make opponents pay for daring him to score contributed to the team's lousy finish.

6 months from now, here's hoping we're talking about how a vastly improved Tyler Kolek led our vastly improved team to a strong finish, one that includes a multi-victory NCAA tournament run.

We Are Marquette!
“It’s not how white men fight.” - Tucker Carlson

Goose

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10561
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #82 on: October 12, 2022, 09:55:35 AM »
82

I really did not go out of my way to mention the past. If you read my posts, I do not believe I have mentioned pre Shaka more than a couple of times since his arrival. My mention was really more of reference that a lot of coaches latch onto a player, and I believe Shaka did so with Kolek. I have zero interest in rehashing the Wojo era.

MuggsyB

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13030
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2022, 10:14:49 AM »
I didn't read Muggsy's post as saying he lost confidence midway through the season. I think he was saying he lost it for the entire season.

32 game season:
40.0% eFG, 28.1% 3P%

Yes.  I'm pretty sure that's what Muggsy wrote.

Stretchdeltsig

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3195
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #84 on: October 12, 2022, 10:46:21 AM »
Agree, Goose. A lot of Scoopers who hated on him last year seem to be in his corner this year - at least so far.

As long as he's improved his shooting.

MU82

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22870
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2022, 11:06:38 AM »
82

I really did not go out of my way to mention the past. If you read my posts, I do not believe I have mentioned pre Shaka more than a couple of times since his arrival. My mention was really more of reference that a lot of coaches latch onto a player, and I believe Shaka did so with Kolek. I have zero interest in rehashing the Wojo era.

OK, then I misinterpreted what you said. We're on the same page -- we're both looking for very good things from Kolek, Shaka and the 2022-23 team.
“It’s not how white men fight.” - Tucker Carlson

Elonsmusk

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2277
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #86 on: October 12, 2022, 11:47:31 AM »
I really hope Joplin is in the starting 5 over Mitchell.  I understand Stevie has grown and improved which I can’t wait to see.  I’m pulling for him. I still believe Joplin, K. Jones and Kolek are the most important pieces this year.

Only reason I think Joplin doesn't start is because Shaka prioritizes defense, AND we need some offensive punch coming off the bench.  Joplin at this stage of his career would seem to be a perfect 6th man.  Now if Kolek and Stevie haven't improved offensively, we may have no other choice than to put Joplin in the starting lineup in place of Stevie.

BCHoopster

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3204
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2022, 11:57:39 AM »
I like starting the game with your best offensive players on the floor, then once you take a lead, bring i. Your best defenders to lock them down then, that’s if you get the lead

MU82

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22870
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2022, 12:21:38 PM »
I like starting the game with your best offensive players on the floor, then once you take a lead, bring i. Your best defenders to lock them down then, that’s if you get the lead

Others (maybe even Shaka? we'll see soon enough) like starting the game with your best defensive players on the floor, then once you take a lead, bring in your best offensive players to blow open the game.

Personally, I don't think it has to be an either/or proposition.
“It’s not how white men fight.” - Tucker Carlson

BCHoopster

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3204
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2022, 12:51:36 PM »
If you go up 10 or more, your putting pressure on the other team, they may fold, but if they try and back in the game quicker maybe the force them into bad shots,  cause the D is better, just different philosophies 

tower912

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 23682
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2022, 01:59:03 PM »
I like balance.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22870
Re: [Paint Touches] Thoughts on Open Scrimmage
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2022, 09:57:41 PM »
If you go up 10 or more, your putting pressure on the other team, they may fold, but if they try and back in the game quicker maybe the force them into bad shots,  cause the D is better, just different philosophies

Can't you go up 10 by playing suffocating defense?

Look, I'm not advocating for either. Indeed, I don't think you need to make such a no-shades-of-gray choice.
“It’s not how white men fight.” - Tucker Carlson

 

feedback