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MU82

But at least top-5 WR Christian Watson turned in a huge day for the Pack.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 12:47:51 PMIf fired, LaFleur will be unemployed for about 8 seconds. He probably would get one of the open head-coaching jobs. If not, he certainly will be an OC next season.

Unless he wants a paid vacation for a year. I don't know what's in his head.
good for him, that doesn't give him immunity in Green Bay.

GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:19:28 PMBut at least top-5 WR Christian Watson turned in a huge day for the Pack.

I too thought the Packers passing game was the problem last night

MU82

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on Today at 01:37:59 PMgood for him, that doesn't give him immunity in Green Bay.

Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 01:38:46 PMI too thought the Packers passing game was the problem last night

I neither said nor implied either of those things.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

HutchwasClutch

#4479
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 12:47:51 PMIf fired, LaFleur will be unemployed for about 8 seconds. He probably would get one of the open head-coaching jobs. If not, he certainly will be an OC next season.

Unless he wants a paid vacation for a year. I don't know what's in his head.
39-10 years 1-3 with Rodgers having two MVP seasons. 

37-30-1 since. 

1 playoff win since 2020.  A choke job last night that is rightfully being judged historically. 

Thanks Roger Goodell for playoff expansion or else it would be a 4 year playoff drought. 

3-6 overall playoff record with a home championship game loss followed the next year by a one and done home loss as the #1 seed. 

See it's not very pretty when you take a little peek behind the curtain.  I love all the people who pay little more than superficial attention to the Packers giving us your own reality checks on the little flower. 

Good luck anyone who has to have him in the first 8 seconds he's unemployed God willing and watch his teams implode over and over again.  That's what he does. That's what his teams do.  Lack of poise and composure when things get tough.  Rodgers propped him up while he could still perform as an elite QB and it's been mediocre to lousy since. 

HutchwasClutch

#4480
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:19:28 PMBut at least top-5 WR Christian Watson turned in a huge day for the Pack.

I know what you're referring to here, but on a serious note, not having an actual NFL level no 1 receiver really hurt last night.  No go to receiver when you need plays.  They all just pop up occasionally with a play and disappear.  Doesn't at all excuse LaFleur being totally incapable of adjusting to what the Bears defense did after halftime. 

Jockey

Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 01:38:46 PMI too thought the Packers passing game was the problem last night

Love threw for 323 with a rating over 100.

Jacob's averaged 2.9 yards a carry.

Hafley's D gave up 25 points in the 4th quarter.

Love was way down on the list if we're assigning blame.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Jockey on Today at 03:14:41 PMLove threw for 323 with a rating over 100.

Jacob's averaged 2.9 yards a carry.

Hafley's D gave up 25 points in the 4th quarter.

Love was way down on the list if we're assigning blame.

This was sarcasm ha. Love is a star, down to the last drive.

MU82

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on Today at 02:43:52 PM39-10 years 1-3 with Rodgers having two MVP seasons. 

37-30-1 since. 

1 playoff win since 2020.  A choke job last night that is rightfully being judged historically. 

Thanks Roger Goodell for playoff expansion or else it would be a 4 year playoff drought. 

3-6 overall playoff record with a home championship game loss followed the next year by a one and done home loss as the #1 seed. 

See it's not very pretty when you take a little peek behind the curtain.  I love all the people who pay little more than superficial attention to the Packers giving us your own reality checks on the little flower. 

Good luck anyone who has to have him in the first 8 seconds he's unemployed God willing and watch his teams implode over and over again.  That's what he does. That's what his teams do.  Lack of poise and composure when things get tough.  Rodgers propped him up while he could still perform as an elite QB and it's been mediocre to lousy since. 

The good thing is that, if he's fired, we'll actually get to see how long LaFleur sits unemployed (assuming he wants to coach in 2026). You might be right that all the GMs with HC or OC openings think he's a lost cause. We'll see!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BM1090

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:25:48 PMThe good thing is that, if he's fired, we'll actually get to see how long LaFleur sits unemployed (assuming he wants to coach in 2026). You might be right that all the GMs with HC or OC openings think he's a lost cause. We'll see!

I think two things can be true. It's time for the Packers to move on, and MLF would have no real issue finding another job. Probably as a head coach.

MUBurrow

If the Packers move on from LaFleur, they probably need to go outside the Shanahan connections for their next hires, right? That legitimately narrows the field a bit.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MUBurrow on Today at 04:31:52 PMIf the Packers move on from LaFleur, they probably need to go outside the Shanahan connections for their next hires, right? That legitimately narrows the field a bit.
Brad Stevens fits the criteria. Or the Bears' OC Doyle is now old enough to drink, so maybe he'd fit?

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:25:48 PMThe good thing is that, if he's fired, we'll actually get to see how long LaFleur sits unemployed (assuming he wants to coach in 2026). You might be right that all the GMs with HC or OC openings think he's a lost cause. We'll see!
I'm not disputing others in the league may hire him. I'm just really tired already of people acting with disbelief that there's a sentiment among our fan base to fire his incompetent butt.  I heard before and after this game the "wow, how can you think of firing LaFleur" comments from everywhere from national media to right here.  I do not understand why he's so respected and even more so after that 30 minute horror show he conducted last night. 

Jockey

Quote from: GB Warrior on Today at 04:04:31 PMThis was sarcasm ha. Love is a star, down to the last drive.

Shoulda known.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on Today at 04:49:38 PMI'm not disputing others in the league may hire him. I'm just really tired already of people acting with disbelief that there's a sentiment among our fan base to fire his incompetent butt.  I heard before and after this game the "wow, how can you think of firing LaFleur" comments from everywhere from national media to right here.  I do not understand why he's so respected and even more so after that 30 minute horror show he conducted last night. 
I get it, but it's all a function of perspective and expectations. 20 NFL teams would take the Packers performance under MLF in a second. But on the other hand, many Eagles' fans want the reigning Super Bowl Champion Sirianni fired.

MLF is not an all time great (yet?) but he is above average and most of the country's fans have worse HCs than him, hence a popular opinion that the Packers would make a mistake by moving on. But popular opinions aren't always right.

#UnleashMalik

Are people still defending lafleur? Seems to be the same people who defended wojo for 7 years.  ;D

#UnleashMalik

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 04:41:25 PMBrad Stevens fits the criteria. Or the Bears' OC Doyle is now old enough to drink, so maybe he'd fit?

Brad stevens bringing basketball knowledge to the NFL. I can get behind this.

CreightonWarrior

The people defending LaFleur are probably the people that want to keep him there for his consistent epic choke jobs.

MU82

I am not "defending" LaFleur. I don't follow the Pack closely enough to know whether he is bad or good or mediocre. Given the passion of the GB fans here, it sounds like he really sucks, and I respect that.

But I do know that NFL coaches, especially those who have had even a modicum of success in the W/L column, get to coach again.

That's all I was saying, nothing more.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Gotta call Billy Donovan.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

PointWarrior


Now you are a LaFluer slurper?   :D

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:45:18 PMI am not "defending" LaFleur. I don't follow the Pack closely enough to know whether he is bad or good or mediocre. Given the passion of the GB fans here, it sounds like he really sucks, and I respect that.

But I do know that NFL coaches, especially those who have had even a modicum of success in the W/L column, get to coach again.

That's all I was saying, nothing more.

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:45:18 PMI am not "defending" LaFleur. I don't follow the Pack closely enough to know whether he is bad or good or mediocre. Given the passion of the GB fans here, it sounds like he really sucks, and I respect that.

But I do know that NFL coaches, especially those who have had even a modicum of success in the W/L column, get to coach again.

That's all I was saying, nothing more.

I think this is a case in which you're both right.
After a lot of coming up small in big moments, a coaching reset in Green Bay is not a crazy idea. Just like in Baltimore or, had the kick been straight, in Pittsburgh. There's many examples of teams firing  coaches who've had success and coming out the better for it. The Bulls fired Doug Collins after he got them to the conference finals, and never regretted it. People thought Tampa was insane to fire Tony Dungy, until they won a Super Bowl 12 months later.

And I agree, if Lafleur gets fired, he could get snapped up quickly this cycle (back to Nashville?). Or he could sit out a year and perhaps have his pick of the litter in 2027.

Jockey

Winning 9 games, squeaking into the playoffs and losing early is all right for some people. I prefer better.

MU82

Quote from: PointWarrior on Today at 05:54:14 PMNow you are a LaFluer slurper?   :D


Looks like. If one doesn't scream, "So-and-so is the worst!" - or, if as in my case, one has no opinion at all - I guess it means one is a slurper.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 05:53:01 PMGotta call Billy Donovan.

TJ Otz or I'm out as a Packers fan.

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