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New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« on: May 03, 2022, 09:53:13 AM »
https://www.bethedifferencenil.org/

Depending on the donor backing this could be a huge deal.

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Be The Difference NIL
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 09:53:40 AM »
A new website was launched today with involvement from Travis Diener, Steve Novak, and Rob Jackson. They are looking to partner with local non-profits to help Marquette players earn NIL opportunities.

https://www.bethedifferencenil.org/
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Re: Be The Difference NIL
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2022, 10:04:02 AM »
Setting it up as a not-for-profit is interesting.  It is far from determined if that will hold up to IRS scrutiny.  This is behind a paywall, but Matt Brown is a good read on the administrative stuff behind college sports, and he makes the same claim.

Glad they are pushing the envelope though.

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Re: Be The Difference NIL
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2022, 10:06:40 AM »
Awesome. Looking forward to seeing the kind of partners this group can line up.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2022, 10:19:11 AM »
Gives Mr. Lewis some incentive to return. Also this should make us competitive with most schools and every school in the Big East in terms of NIL dollars.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2022, 10:20:50 AM »
Gives Mr. Lewis some incentive to return. Also this should make us competitive with most schools and every school in the Big East in terms of NIL dollars.

Thats how Creighton keeps adding talent right now.  They got in front of the game with NIL.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2022, 10:22:05 AM »
This will make us competitive with virtually every school and very competitive in the BE. This program will be a success and hopefully this calms some folks nerves out there.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2022, 10:22:46 AM »
Will keep up with the "Jones's".     

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2022, 01:17:11 PM »
This will make us competitive with virtually every school and very competitive in the BE. This program will be a success and hopefully this calms some folks nerves out there.

it will depend upon the amount of money they can raise, the structure for doing so, etc. Non-profits aren't exactly going to throw big money at players. I think you'll see more appearances and autographs sessions for a fee than a major deal. Tennessee's Spyre Sports, which runs the 1951 Club collective is running on a budget of $25 million per year, Florida's latest collective (they have three) raised $3 million in 24 hours, the Clark Field Collective at Texas (one of two at UT) started with an initial pledge of $10 million. Can this collective keep up with that?

The thing with NIL is we hear about the huge deals but overall, the average NIL deal across D1 per on the Opendorse platform was around $1300, with that number heavily skewed by deals given to SAs like the Cavinder Twins, Bryce Young, Olivia Dunne, Paige Buecker, Tshweibe, etc. The median deal was $51. A vast majority of NIL deals are for product.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2022, 01:28:59 PM »
it will depend upon the amount of money they can raise, the structure for doing so, etc. Non-profits aren't exactly going to throw big money at players. I think you'll see more appearances and autographs sessions for a fee than a major deal. Tennessee's Spyre Sports, which runs the 1951 Club collective is running on a budget of $25 million per year, Florida's latest collective (they have three) raised $3 million in 24 hours, the Clark Field Collective at Texas (one of two at UT) started with an initial pledge of $10 million. Can this collective keep up with that?

This collective doesn't have to. Just look at the list of players John Ruiz has signed up at Miami. Rather, look at the list of sports. It's 80% football. Tennessee, Florida, Texas, those will all be the same. Football is going to drive the bus on most of this, especially at the P5 schools. They won't need to raise nearly as much with an initial focus on 26 student-athletes.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2022, 02:31:03 PM »
Texas boosters gave him a million reasons to stay.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2022, 02:35:11 PM »
What's ridiculous about it?

A million dollar NIL for a wide receiver, heck any player. What isBryce Young, CJ Stroud, and other Heisman potential players  getting. College coaches are re-recruiting their current players.

If you feel that it’s a good thing for sports, so be it. College sports now is out of control. 

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2022, 02:38:16 PM »
So can someone explain how exactly this would work? I'm struggling to understand where the NIL fund fits between its partners and student athletes.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2022, 02:40:41 PM »
A million dollar NIL for a wide receiver, heck any player. What isBryce Young, CJ Stroud, and other Heisman potential players  getting. College coaches are re-recruiting their current players.

If you feel that it’s a good thing for sports, so be it. College sports now is out of control.

Fans refusing to enjoy players legally capitalizing off their fair market value even though this has been going on under the table for an eternity.

What a strange, head in the sand, take.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2022, 02:48:05 PM »
A million dollar NIL for a wide receiver, heck any player. What isBryce Young, CJ Stroud, and other Heisman potential players  getting. College coaches are re-recruiting their current players.

If you feel that it’s a good thing for sports, so be it. College sports now is out of control.

I still don't get your complaint. He shouldn't be able to make a million dollars off his talents and ability? Should theatre majors not be allowed to act in movies if given the opportunity? Should broadcasting majors not be allowed to profit off podcasts they start?

And who are you mad at? The player, for making the money? The booster that wants him to play for their school? The coach that fails to re-recruit the talent? Just a very strange gripe with no seeming target.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2022, 02:51:58 PM »
I still don't get your complaint. He shouldn't be able to make a million dollars off his talents and ability? Should theatre majors not be allowed to act in movies if given the opportunity? Should broadcasting majors not be allowed to profit off podcasts they start?

And who are you mad at? The player, for making the money? The booster that wants him to play for their school? The coach that fails to re-recruit the talent? Just a very strange gripe with no seeming target.

The romance is gone...  :'(

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2022, 02:58:04 PM »
I still don't get your complaint. He shouldn't be able to make a million dollars off his talents and ability? Should theatre majors not be allowed to act in movies if given the opportunity? Should broadcasting majors not be allowed to profit off podcasts they start?

And who are you mad at? The player, for making the money? The booster that wants him to play for their school? The coach that fails to re-recruit the talent? Just a very strange gripe with no seeming target.
I'll step in this. Was it legal? Kid wasn't in the portal so how was he contacted? Depending on which P-5 school it was, and what their state law allows. I am sure he has an agent, so what is the agent's duty? Get the best deal for his client, or the best deal for his client at the school he is currently enrolled in? If he is a NCAA certified agent, curious on what their regs state about agents reaching out to other schools.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2022, 02:58:36 PM »
The romance is gone...  :'(

More like, the illusion is gone. People like magic shows though.


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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2022, 03:13:43 PM »
More like, the illusion is gone. People like magic shows though.

This is exactly right. Do people really think this hasn't been the way of the world for the past 50 years? Do people really think when Al said "I don't think any decent human being enjoys recruiting" he was talking about the moms making inedible cookies when he was on in-home visits? The only difference is today it's transparent. Welcome to the sport you've always been watching, the only thing that's changed is we're being honest about it.

And again...who are we mad at? Because if the answer is anyone other than the NCAA and its member institutions, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2022, 03:14:48 PM »
I do not care how much money these guys get paid and it is up to MU get the funds needed. If MU wants to compete at a high level, they need to compete in the NIL. I am very surprised by all of the talk on this topic over the past weeks on Scoop. NIL is just another piece of the puzzle, no different than having proper budget for a coaching staff, recruiting, travel, etc. If MU cannot figure this out, they should turn over the keys to FF and play NAIA ball.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2022, 03:19:41 PM »
I do not care how much money these guys get paid and it is up to MU get the funds needed. If MU wants to compete at a high level, they need to compete in the NIL. I am very surprised by all of the talk on this topic over the past weeks on Scoop. NIL is just another piece of the puzzle, no different than having proper budget for a coaching staff, recruiting, travel, etc. If MU cannot figure this out, they should turn over the keys to FF and play NAIA ball.

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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2022, 04:03:12 PM »
A million dollar NIL for a wide receiver, heck any player. What isBryce Young, CJ Stroud, and other Heisman potential players  getting. College coaches are re-recruiting their current players.

If you feel that it’s a good thing for sports, so be it. College sports now is out of control.


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Re: New NIL Collective for MBB and WBB
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2022, 04:13:02 PM »
I do not care how much money these guys get paid and it is up to MU get the funds needed. If MU wants to compete at a high level, they need to compete in the NIL. I am very surprised by all of the talk on this topic over the past weeks on Scoop. NIL is just another piece of the puzzle, no different than having proper budget for a coaching staff, recruiting, travel, etc. If MU cannot figure this out, they should turn over the keys to FF and play NAIA ball.

Agreed Goose.

 

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