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Author Topic: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois  (Read 552 times)

muwarrior69

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New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« on: September 10, 2022, 09:45:14 AM »
At least here in New Jersey Judges and Prosecutors still have discretion when to impose bail. If what the article reports is true it looks like the wild west in Illinois. I would be curious to know what any scoopers who live in Illinois think.

https://www.rrstar.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/09/09/states-attorney-illinois-safe-t-act-poses-serious-threat-to-public/67438927007/

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2022, 09:56:37 AM »
Innnnnñ beforę thè looooooooooock
Tis a shame, 'tis a rotton shame, for if ye can enjoy the walkin’ ye can probably enjoy the other times in yer life when ve're in between. And that's most o' the time; wouldn't ye say?

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2022, 10:10:50 AM »
I'm for both safe and T's.

We need to be able to lock up our valuables. And sometimes I don't feel like wearing a polo shirt.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2022, 10:20:35 AM »
Raise taxes.   Build more prisons, hire more guards.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2022, 11:44:58 AM »
I'm for both safe and T's.

We need to be able to lock up our valuables. And sometimes I don't feel like wearing a polo shirT.

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2022, 12:16:12 PM »
Raise taxes.   Build more prisons, hire more guards.

Raise taxes. Tear down prisons. Fire cops, hire more social workers.

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2022, 12:19:31 PM »
Raise taxes. Tear down prisons. Fire cops, hire more social workers.

Coup attempts, election board criminality, theft of national security docs.

This is fun.

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2022, 12:37:15 PM »
Raise taxes. Tear down prisons. Fire cops, hire more social workers.

That would certainly help some of the issues in this country.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2022, 05:45:32 PM »
At least here in New Jersey Judges and Prosecutors still have discretion when to impose bail. If what the article reports is true it looks like the wild west in Illinois. I would be curious to know what any scoopers who live in Illinois think.

https://www.rrstar.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/09/09/states-attorney-illinois-safe-t-act-poses-serious-threat-to-public/67438927007/

Putting pressure on judges to make detention/no-detention decisions is a good thing.

Putting the detention/no-detention 'decision' on someone's bank account is weird. It means that I'll never have to sit in jail awaiting a court date, but poor people will always have to.

It's nice to try something to fix the inequity problem that exists in the bail system.

Edit: It's obvious to OP that the Opinion piece you posted is wingnut stuff with no basis in reality, right? It's hard to tell if boomers are falling for propaganda, or if they're just trying to rile people up.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2022, 09:47:24 PM by Skatastrophy »

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2022, 06:12:56 PM »
Raise taxes. Tear down prisons. Fire cops, hire more social workers.

I’m down with 2 of those 4.

I don’t want to raise taxes; I just want us to collect taxes from those who owe them. Let’s close rich-people loopholes. Let’s enforce existing laws - something self-proclaimed “law and order”folks should be championing.

And obviously, I don’t want to fire cops. I want MORE qualified, well-trained police officers. We need them now more than ever.

It definitely would help those officers do their jobs better if we had more good social workers. I’m actually surprised you’re suggesting you’d be against that, Tony.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2022, 06:19:28 PM »
Just an awesome day in college football!


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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2022, 06:33:34 PM »
Just an awesome day in college football!



That's something we can all agree on

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2022, 07:11:19 PM »
Just an awesome day in college football!

Typical conservative-liberal-MAGA-libertarian-green tripe from you!
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2022, 08:21:42 PM »
At least here in New Jersey Judges and Prosecutors still have discretion when to impose bail. If what the article reports is true it looks like the wild west in Illinois. I would be curious to know what any scoopers who live in Illinois think.

https://www.rrstar.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/09/09/states-attorney-illinois-safe-t-act-poses-serious-threat-to-public/67438927007/

Fake news.
And it was passed more than a year ago.
You guys are such rubes.

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2022, 08:47:35 PM »
Hope the criminals takeover. You get what you vote for, good and hard. I don’t feel bad, will just figure out ways to keep getting ahead and widening the gap. Time to start recognizing this as an opportunity.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2022, 11:51:41 AM »
Raise taxes.   Build more prisons, hire more guards.

agreed, but with one side beholden to the abolition movement that won't happen.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2022, 12:34:01 PM »
agreed, but with one side beholden to the abolition movement that won't happen.

1. Pretty sure tower was being sarcastic.
2. The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world. We imprison citizens at a rate nearly five times greater than the UK and Spain; six to seven times greater than Canada, Italy, Belgium and France; and eight to 12 times greater than Ireland, Germany, the Netherlands and Scandinavia.
Maybe, just maybe, it's time to think about whether mass incarceration works. Sure seems not to.

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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2022, 12:57:09 PM »
1. Pretty sure tower was being sarcastic.
2. The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world. We imprison citizens at a rate nearly five times greater than the UK and Spain; six to seven times greater than Canada, Italy, Belgium and France; and eight to 12 times greater than Ireland, Germany, the Netherlands and Scandinavia.
Maybe, just maybe, it's time to think about whether mass incarceration works. Sure seems not to.

We even have for-profit prisons. They suck, too.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2022, 01:09:03 PM »
It was partially tongue in cheek.    All of your data points are accurate, Pakuni.   But the only way to lock even more up is to build more prisons and hire more guards.   Both of which cost a lot of taxpayer money.   So, if the desired outcome is more people incarcerated, then raise some taxes.
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Re: New SAFE-T Act passed in Illinois
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2022, 01:58:54 PM »
I’m down with 2 of those 4.

I don’t want to raise taxes; I just want us to collect taxes from those who owe them. Let’s close rich-people loopholes.

You say you don’t want to raise taxes… then, the next sentence you say you DO want to raise taxes. Shameful.