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Mr. Nielsen

Hurley at Connecticut needs to get going. Last two tournaments have been disappointing.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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brewcity77

Georgetown fans must be so pissed. Imagine watching Shaka Smart, Shaheen Holloway, Sean Miller, and Thad Matta all come into the league while your administration twiddles their thumbs with Patrick Ewing.
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MU82

If Matta is all-in - and why would he take the job if he wasn't gonna be? - this is a tremendous hire. A little Shaka-ish, in that he got his "dream job" and maybe realized that such things aren't always what they're cracked up to be.

Agree with Mr. N about Hurley - he's overrated to me until he does something that matters at UConn. Obviously, the same can be said about Shaka.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Shooter McGavin

The coaches coming in definitely don't hurt the next TV contract.

JWags85

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on April 03, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
Hurley at Connecticut needs to get going. Last two tournaments have been disappointing.

He took over a program that was in purgatory with NCAA punishments from Ollie.  He's finished top 3 in the BE both of his first 2 years and made the tourney.  Sure you'd like to see a deeper run, but he's done just fine and UCONN is a contender in the BE again. To even mention him with coaches that need to "get it going" is silly.

Mr. Nielsen

Well, maybe. Yet, that feeling is there by UConn fans. Not sure anyone is saying hot seat talk. Yet, the tournaments exits the last two years for Connecticut are disappointments.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Silent Verbal

That's an unbelievable, pie in the sky type of hire for Butler.  Their program has taken two massive hits in the last decade with Stevens and Holtmann leaving, so this is great news for them and the conference.  Lavall Jordan was a hack who had no business coaching in the Big East.  Great to see the conference cleanse itself of some of these garbage coaches like Wojo, Steele, and Jordan the last few years. 

ChitownSpaceForRent

Is there any conference that comes near the Big East in terms of name recognition among coaches.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on April 03, 2022, 12:24:35 PM
Well, maybe. Yet, that feeling is there by UConn fans. Not sure anyone is saying hot seat talk. Yet, the tournaments exits the last two years for Connecticut are disappointments.

UConn fans aren't the best judge of rational feelings. 

Not A Serious Person

X hires Sean Miller
Butler hires Thad Matta

Does this mean the next MU coach after Shaka is Crean?  Of Maybe Buzz?
Western Progressives have one worldview, the correct one.

willie warrior

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 03, 2022, 01:34:58 PM
X hires Sean Miller
Butler hires Thad Matta

Does this mean the next MU coach after Shaka is Crean?  Of Maybe Buzz?
Maybe O'Neil
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on April 03, 2022, 12:08:26 PM
If Matta is all-in - and why would he take the job if he wasn't gonna be? - this is a tremendous hire. A little Shaka-ish, in that he got his "dream job" and maybe realized that such things aren't always what they're cracked up to be.

Agree with Mr. N about Hurley - he's overrated to me until he does something that matters at UConn. Obviously, the same can be said about Shaka.

Thad's time at OSU was much longer and more successful than Shaka's was at Texas.

Herman Cain

Matta's coaching record is impressive. If he can approach that level of success at Butler The Big East will be even more of a gauntlet than it already is. Will be interesting to see if he can get some prospects from the transfer portal. That has been a tried and true method for Butler over the years


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/thad-matta-1.html
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MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on April 03, 2022, 03:26:49 PM
Thad's time at OSU was much longer and more successful than Shaka's was at Texas.

Absolutely. I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Scoop Snoop

With the BE's three new coaches, our conference has the promise of soon becoming more like the Big 12 with its impressive top to bottom strength (Georgetown aside). St. John's remains questionable but even Coach Blue! Blue! and his Demons cannot be no longer be taken as an easy win.

Your thoughts on how Shaka and his system will perform vs. Butler, Seton Hall, and Xaiver once the new coaches settle in this coming season and afterwards? I think Holloway is the most difficult new coach to figure out, but he obviously likes a highly disciplined style, or at least did at St. Peter's.

Several people have posted about the cannibalism inherent in an exceptionally strong top to bottom conference and pointed out how the bottom teams of the Big 12 have been saddled with records that, at first glance, are unimpressive. Looking 2-3 years down the road, which teams do you think will be perennial powers and which ones besides Georgetown will be in 8th-10th place? 
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LAZER

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on April 04, 2022, 08:24:41 AM
With the BE's three new coaches, our conference has the promise of soon becoming more like the Big 12 with its impressive top to bottom strength (Georgetown aside). St. John's remains questionable but even Coach Blue! Blue! and his Demons cannot be no longer be taken as an easy win.

Your thoughts on how Shaka and his system will perform vs. Butler, Seton Hall, and Xaiver once the new coaches settle in this coming season and afterwards? I think Holloway is the most difficult new coach to figure out, but he obviously likes a highly disciplined style, or at least did at St. Peter's.

Several people have posted about the cannibalism inherent in an exceptionally strong top to bottom conference and pointed out how the bottom teams of the Big 12 have been saddled with records that, at first glance, are unimpressive. Looking 2-3 years down the road, which teams do you think will be perennial powers and which ones besides Georgetown will be in 8th-10th place?
In 2-3 years I don't expect much to change. Still expect the same teams at the top, same teams in the middle, and DePaul, St John's, and Georgetown holding down the bottom.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: LAZER on April 04, 2022, 09:32:55 AM
In 2-3 years I don't expect much to change. Still expect the same teams at the top, same teams in the middle, and DePaul, St John's, and Georgetown holding down the bottom.

Probably so for the bottom three, but I think Matta and Miller will have their teams solidly in the upper half of the conference within 2-3 years. Even if, as I expect, Nova has a slightly down year (by their standards) this coming season, they will continue to be first or at least second in 2-3 years. To me, both Hurley and Holloway are difficult to predict and I think Providence goes back to being somewhere in the middle of the pack.

The big question to me is where will Marquette be in the conference? Where will we fit in?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

DFW HOYA

Quote from: LAZER on April 04, 2022, 09:32:55 AM
In 2-3 years I don't expect much to change. Still expect the same teams at the top, same teams in the middle, and DePaul, St John's, and Georgetown holding down the bottom.

If this is the case in 2-3 years, Georgetown will be playing its games at the DC Armory before 1000 a game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/TXC53IQKBEI6TCKCB32EFZMQSQ.jpg

Hards Alumni

Quote from: DFW HOYA on April 04, 2022, 11:07:53 AM
If this is the case in 2-3 years, Georgetown will be playing its games at the DC Armory before 1000 a game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/TXC53IQKBEI6TCKCB32EFZMQSQ.jpg

Why isn't there more pressure from the fan base to fire Ewing?  That BEAST tourney run?

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 04, 2022, 11:10:21 AM
Why isn't there more pressure from the fan base to fire Ewing?  That BEAST tourney run?

From what's been reported, it would cost more than eight figures to buy out Ewing this spring, thanks to the dumb and unnecessary (where was he going?) extension they gave him last year.

MDMU04

If Matta is committed, Butler is going to be a problem.
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DFW HOYA

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 04, 2022, 11:10:21 AM
Why isn't there more pressure from the fan base to fire Ewing?  That BEAST tourney run?

No money for the buyout. Georgetown lost a boatload on COVID and isn't handing a check to a multi-millionaire without someone else footing the bill.

Pakuni

Western Michigan hiring former MU/Michigan State assistant Dwayne Stephens.