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Started by Herman Cain, March 09, 2022, 04:39:37 PM

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Pakuni

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Who's considered to be slimier, Sean Miller or Bruce Pearl??

Pearl by a mile.

jfp61

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Who's considered to be slimier, Sean Miller or Bruce Pearl??

Bruce Pearl literally stole a eulogy at a funeral.

OffTheGlass

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Who's considered to be slimier, Sean Miller or Bruce Pearl??

Pearl pic next to "slime" in Webster's, but Miller is literally a piece of crap. NCAA is so weak. I literally cannot believe either one of these clowns are able to coach.

LAZER

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2022, 09:17:06 PM
Pearl by a mile.
Book Richardson served jail time and is now a convicted felon and certainly won't coach in college basketball ever again. He was Miller's assistant for 10 years. Miller has to be taking care of him, right?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Who's considered to be slimier, Sean Miller or Bruce Pearl??
Close call but I say Miller.

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Lamont Paris to South Carolina. Former Badger
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 21, 2022, 08:01:58 PM
Seton Hall is a pretty crappy program. Are they sure Holloway can't do better than them?

Like where?  Coaches usually don't go from the MAAC to the BE. That's actually quite a step up but the only reason he's being considered is due to his connections with the school.
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 21, 2022, 11:04:55 PM
Lamont Paris to South Carolina. Former Badger


He was the one responsible for pulling in a lot of UW's out of state talent back in the day.
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panda

Quote from: Clarissa on March 22, 2022, 06:13:29 AM
Like where?  Coaches usually don't go from the MAAC to the BE. That's actually quite a step up but the only reason he's being considered is due to his connections with the school.

Ed Cooley and Kevin Willard beg to differ.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: panda on March 22, 2022, 07:32:50 AM
Ed Cooley and Kevin Willard beg to differ.

Those are good points.
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shoothoops

#361
Dennis Gates was board approved. He has a Noon press conference.

This was an article from one of their beat writers with multiple Marquette references, growing up in Garfield Park etc...and how Gates, Quentin Richardson, and Cordell Henry all agreed to attend Marquette University together, but only Henry ended up there. Several Ben Braun quotes too.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/how-dennis-gates-rise-from-chicago-prep-guard-to-cal-freshman-captain-leads-him-to/article_618c9e14-0e11-587f-b596-40369d9af58d.html

Viper

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 08:15:02 PM
Who's considered to be slimier, Sean Miller or Bruce Pearl??
push, and there's stank on Bill Self too

brewcity77

Quote from: Clarissa on March 22, 2022, 06:13:29 AM
Like where?  Coaches usually don't go from the MAAC to the BE. That's actually quite a step up but the only reason he's being considered is due to his connections with the school.

All the public comments certainly make it look like these were both done ages ago. Willard knew he had Maryland and was leaving, and also knew Holloway was replacing him and has been shouting it to the rafters. With the SEC all done, I'm not sure what other jobs would be more attractive, but it would be hilarious if something like Ohio State came open and took Holloway away from SHU. I'm not sure I would ever stop laughing.
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panda

Quote from: Clarissa on March 22, 2022, 07:43:29 AM
Those are good points.

Ha ! Just giving you a hard time. It is a huge jump but when you said it, I had to check because I knew where Willard came from and was pretty sure about Cooley.

Coooley like Holloway is an alma mater hire and Willard is extremely well connected to skip a couple levels.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: panda on March 22, 2022, 08:42:31 AM
Ha ! Just giving you a hard time. It is a huge jump but when you said it, I had to check because I knew where Willard came from and was pretty sure about Cooley.

Coooley like Holloway is an alma mater hire and Willard is extremely well connected to skip a couple levels.

Plus, Holloway was on the Seton Hall staff for 8 years.  In a lot of ways, it's like promoting from within
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

JWags85

Quote from: panda on March 22, 2022, 08:42:31 AM
Ha ! Just giving you a hard time. It is a huge jump but when you said it, I had to check because I knew where Willard came from and was pretty sure about Cooley.

Coooley like Holloway is an alma mater hire and Willard is extremely well connected to skip a couple levels.

Cooley is from Providence, but he didn't go to PC.  He went to a D2 school in Boston.

panda

Quote from: JWags85 on March 22, 2022, 09:16:12 AM
Cooley is from Providence, but he didn't go to PC.  He went to a D2 school in Boston.

Wow - I always thought he was a PC guy.

Uncle Rico

Tim Jankovich out at SMU.  Grant McCasland expected to take the gig
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

brewcity77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
Tim Jankovich out at SMU.  Grant McCasland expected to take the gig

Amazing what a difference a committee can make. SMU finishes just outside the NCAA field, a few more votes from Selection Committee members, they get in, Jankovich likely keeps his job. Tough break.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 22, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
Tim Jankovich out at SMU.  Grant McCasland expected to take the gig

I think McCasland could end up being a very good hire. He could do a lot with SMU.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 22, 2022, 10:35:17 AM
Amazing what a difference a committee can make. SMU finishes just outside the NCAA field, a few more votes from Selection Committee members, they get in, Jankovich likely keeps his job. Tough break.

Reading this thread also makes it obvious to me that the NCAA tourney is a boon for mid-major coaches that put in a respectable showing. 

Separately, I'm confounded by the number of "alumi" hires lately.  It's one thing to hire an alum that has gone on to become a good coach, quite another to gamble on one just because he's an alum.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 22, 2022, 10:50:07 AM
Reading this thread also makes it obvious to me that the NCAA tourney is a boon for mid-major coaches that put in a respectable showing. 

Separately, I'm confounded by the number of "alumi" hires lately.  It's one thing to hire an alum that has gone on to become a good coach, quite another to gamble on one just because he's an alum.


On the alumni hiring, I think there is a lot of "he knows us and won't leave us" type of thinking.  (But of course we will fire him at a moment's notice.)
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

cheebs09

Quote from: Clarissa on March 22, 2022, 10:54:53 AM

On the alumni hiring, I think there is a lot of "he knows us and won't leave us" type of thinking.  (But of course we will fire him at a moment's notice.)

Well, except for Georgetown.

I also wonder if the ability to have success at non-traditional schools is making it tougher to poach good coaches. Once a good coach has a high-major team having success, other than a few blue bloods, it may not be any easier to succeed at what once was perceived as a step up.

I kind of wonder if Crean/IU decision was made in today's environment, would he have stayed and continued to build up Marquette. In some ways, a lot of the lateral moves lately are guys getting ahead of a firing more than anything else.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Clarissa on March 22, 2022, 10:54:53 AM

On the alumni hiring, I think there is a lot of "he knows us and won't leave us" type of thinking.  (But of course we will fire him at a moment's notice.)

If this were true, Georgetown would already have their new coach.