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JakeBarnes

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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2022, 11:54:22 AM »
Rewatched it. Morsell was telling guys when to foul before the start of the play. My bad lip reading is: If...then foul.

Sounds like there were 2 options--play it out but foul in a certain situation
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2022, 12:54:10 PM »
Rewatched it. Morsell was telling guys when to foul before the start of the play. My bad lip reading is: If...then foul.

Sounds like there were 2 options--play it out but foul in a certain situation
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2022, 05:16:49 PM »
Even with Nova having 2 fouls to give there was way too much time to foul there. It only takes about 3 seconds to commit 3 fouls and send MU to the free throw line with about 5 seconds left shooting one and one. Miss one of the free throws and Villanova has a chance to win, not just tie.

Completely different situation than Creighton.

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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2022, 05:38:54 PM »
Not the same situation. 8 more seconds. If it got under five with an opportunity to foul, I would have liked them to take it. But Nova shot quickly and I was fine playing it out there.

Creighton was an obvious foul situation.

under 6 seconds then yes, foul. Way too much time left there. Last week Oregon fouled with 12 seconds left, Oregon State made their FT's then OSU had enough time to foul UO, for UO to miss a FT, then got a really good look to tie.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2022, 11:19:07 PM »
Indiana doesn't foul up 3 vs. Purdue, survives heave from Ivey that almost banks in to pull off the upset.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2022, 02:03:43 AM »
Indiana doesn't foul up 3 vs. Purdue, survives heave from Ivey that almost banks in to pull off the upset.

That shot was terrifying to all of  Assembly Hall. 
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2022, 09:06:01 AM »
That shot was terrifying to all of  Assembly Hall.

No doubt.

To foul there, a defender would have really had to grab Ivey on the fly, maybe even risk a flagrant. Even though that shot almost went in, I don't think I would have fouled there, either.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2022, 09:11:26 AM »
No doubt.

To foul there, a defender would have really had to grab Ivey on the fly, maybe even risk a flagrant. Even though that shot almost went in, I don't think I would have fouled there, either.

Step in front and try to draw a charge? Worse case it's a block and you achieve the foul anyways?
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2022, 09:15:25 AM »
Step in front and try to draw a charge? Worse case it's a block and you achieve the foul anyways?

I like it ... though it would take some quick thinking on the fly.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2022, 09:18:48 AM »
Kolek was trying to draw a charge against Creighton.   He flopped, no call , ball went out of bounds off of him.   And then....
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2022, 09:21:13 AM »
Not the same situation. 8 more seconds. If it got under five with an opportunity to foul, I would have liked them to take it. But Nova shot quickly and I was fine playing it out there.

Creighton was an obvious foul situation.
Yeah, Shaka really lost us the Creighton game with not fouling. Hopefully that lost doesnt come back to bite us.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2022, 03:01:33 PM »
I thought I saw that Shaka believes in the foul when there is 5 sec or less !  ! !  8-)

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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2022, 03:39:10 PM »
Shaka and Homer discussed this last night. Shaka follows a gambling book on odds strategy. This led to the Zen self-improvement books discussion that Shaka recommended to Home Boy.

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2022, 04:05:17 PM »
Yeah, Shaka really lost us the Creighton game with not fouling. Hopefully that lost doesnt come back to bite us.

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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2022, 05:05:13 PM »
NBA coaches usually don’t foul up 3.

Last night, the Wizards tried to foul the Clippers’ Luke Kennard but the refs didn’t call a couple of little slaps. Kennard then hit a 3 while he was being shoved, and he made the FT for the game-winning 4-point play.

It completed the Clippers’ comeback from a 35-point deficit.
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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2022, 05:11:13 PM »
NBA coaches usually don’t foul up 3.

Last night, the Wizards tried to foul the Clippers’ Luke Kennard but the refs didn’t call a couple of little slaps. Kennard then hit a 3 while he was being shoved, and he made the FT for the game-winning 4-point play.

It completed the Clippers’ comeback from a 35-point deficit.

Saw that last night and had to laugh. Pretty poor attempt to foul before he got the shot off.

https://twitter.com/nba/status/1486168650897838082?s=21

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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2022, 05:13:43 PM »
Saw that last night and had to laugh. Pretty poor attempt to foul before he got the shot off.

https://twitter.com/nba/status/1486168650897838082?s=21
Thanks for sharing that. Was going to say that was a terrible execution……but that wasn’t even close to an execution. I’m not sure what the hell that was.

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Re: Foul up 3?
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2022, 06:58:29 PM »
Saw that last night and had to laugh. Pretty poor attempt to foul before he got the shot off.

https://twitter.com/nba/status/1486168650897838082?s=21

Wow. That was the softest attempt to foul I have ever seen.
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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2022, 10:42:09 PM »
Yep yep. If you're gonna foul you have to foul!

As I said, NBA coaches usually let it play out. For one thing, NBA refs are far more liberal with the continuation call than college refs are, and more willing to call fouls on 3-point attempts.
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