Starting the New Year with more McDer-ama

[4everwarriors]

Dey snatched dafeet from da jaws of victory, aina

[Goose]

4ever,
That pretty much sums it up.

[4everwarriors]

Give 'em credit for snatchin', hey?

[panda]

A crafty coach works for that match-up.  An uncrafty coach allows it.

Fire Shaka for switching guys on a ball screen with 3 seconds left.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Fire Shaka for switching guys on a ball screen with 3 seconds left.

CU had two places to shoot a trey. The corner and where O'Connell shot the ball. MU had one defensive player outside the arc when the shot went off (Kolek was at least near the line on the corner).  That's the trap spots. Poor scheme by the defensive coach. Great read by the offensive coach to find that iso.

Of course, Wojo's bigs also got isolated that way too.

[BM1090]

People keep saying this. You foul off ball on the inbounds.

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Can’t they rule that an away from the play foul and give shots and the ball?

[Jockey]

Can’t they rule that an away from the play foul and give shots and the ball?

You foul after the inbounds pass.

[#UnleashSean]

Can’t they rule that an away from the play foul and give shots and the ball?

That's the rule in the NBA. Not college.

[BM1090]

That's the rule in the NBA. Not college.

Thank you. Then yeah this is the clear best option with only 3 seconds left

[bilsu]

Are we happy Kolek has 3 more years?   Or can he be a good backup PG is Shaka can bring in a PG who can actually make a shot?

MU would be really bad this year without Kolek.

[MU82]

That's the rule in the NBA. Not college.

Officially, there is no such thing as an "intentional" foul. But there are two types of flagrant fouls, and here is the wording from the NCAA basketball rulebook on a "Flagrant 1 Personal Foul":

A flagrant 1 personal foul is a personal foul that is deemed excessive in nature and/or unnecessary, but is not based solely on the severity of the act. Examples include, but are not limited to:
1. Causing excessive contact with an opponent;
2. Contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting;
3. Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score;
4. Fouling a player clearly away from the ball who is not directly involved with the play, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting; and
5. Contact with a player making a throw-in.
6. Illegal contact caused by swinging of an elbow that is deemed excessive or unnecessary but does not rise to the level of a flagrant 2 personal foul (see Rule 4-18.7)

I used bold to highlight the two parts of the rule that could called a "flagrant 1" if a player on Team X simply grabs a player on Team Y. It's not called often, but I have seen it called if it's obvious.

On the play that's driving us all nuts, it wasn't necessary to do it. There literally were two chances to foul O'Donnell before he went up for the shot; if Shaka had wanted to do it, we could have done it. (Not to mention Oso and O-Max could have made the shot more difficult.)

[willie warrior]

My worry from the start was that this was going to be a "Depaul season" for MU. I haven't seen anything to change my mind. The next 3 games are critical - lose all 3 and this team will finish dead last in the BE. Win just one and it is still probably a last place team.


Can someone talk me off the ledge? I'm not talking moral victories or development.

Anybody starting to wonder if we will win a conference game?
We can't get out coached and outplayed every game, can we?

[Viper]

Anybody starting to wonder if we will win a conference game?
We can't get out coached and outplayed every game, can we?

the more things change...and it has, the more it all stays the same. A decade of suck. 

[Mu8891]

Willie ... will they go winless?  No.

But, they will get killed by PROV and that makes them 0 - 4 ... tick tick tick

The way this is going, I don’t see how they get to 5 BE wins.  And that’s on Shaka -  not enough talent and coaching is leaving a Lot to be desired.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Willie ... will they go winless?  No.

But, they will get killed by PROV and that makes them 0 - 4 ... tick tick tick

The way this is going, I don’t see how they get to 5 BE wins.  And that’s on Shaka -  not enough talent and coaching is leaving a Lot to be desired.

tick tick tick...what exactly?

[Viper]

tick tick tick...what exactly?

try not being dense. Have another cup of coffee. The reference is to the losses that are quickly amassing, with no end in sight.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

try not being dense. Have another cup of coffee. The reference is to the losses that are quickly amassing, with no end in sight.

I am not sure what the author meant.  That is why I asked the question.

[Mu8891]

Fluffy is correct...

It is / was a reference to the mounting loses, with the real chance that the entire season will implode.

Winning breads confidence and more winning.  Losing feeds on itself too

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Fluffy is correct...

It is / was a reference to the mounting loses, with the real chance that the entire season will implode.

Winning breads confidence and more winning.  Losing feeds on itself too

Gotcha.  (It was Viper that said that, not me.) 

[willie warrior]

Sure. 14 games into his career at MU? What a stupid comment.

What a stupid comment by you. It was a question.  Yes 14 games in and the team losing all their conference games to date along with what happened to him at Texas sure backs up the logic of asking the question. You can be happy with mediocrity. I want to see improvement as the season goes on, and right now we are not seeing it. In the BEast, you need to win your home games and we are not doing it.

[rocky_warrior]

In the BEast, you need to win your home games and we are not doing it.

I didn't/don't have high expectations for this year.  But this was the first game that I believe MU should have won that it didn't.  Credit to the team for not laying an egg in a winnable game to this point.  But it also helped solidify my belief that my low expectations this year are warranted.

[MUDPT]

I would be shocked if Shaka had actually told a player to foul, he didn't and then Shaka calls him out postgame.  Coaches just don't do that to a player, they eat it. 

Again, MU is stagnant on offense and has been majority of the year.  They just can't put ball in basket, whether threes, short or layups.  Have to score in order to win. 

Kolek was 4 for 14 and is now 7 for last 42 on threes.  He makes some nice passes, but some bad turnovers and horrendous shooting.  Quicker guards, like Nemhard today blew past him today. Not good for a starting point guard.

Lewis was 4 for 18 and his three point percentage also is dismal.  With no outside shot, his NBA potential is non existent.  Yes, one, only one mock service had him listed, all others not even mentioned. 

Thank goodness for Oso going 10 for 12.

Wojo totally did it to Sy his freshman year after the road X game.

[jfp61]

Wojo totally did it to Sy his freshman year after the road X game.

Do the opposite of what wojo did in his press conferences.