Poise and Execution led to death

[MuggsyB]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

[NolongerWarriors]

"Process" is just a cop-out to not have to deal with what happens in each game.

You can say "It will get better next year" for the next 5 years or so before being forced to acknowledge the reality of the situation.

It makes the fan feel better and comforts them.

[nyg]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

Muggs take an Ambien........

Its not Tower and others saying the team needs to press, Shaka has done this his entire career.  MU knew this before they hired him and it is not going to change. 

[MuggsyB]

Muggs take an Ambien........

Its not Tower and others saying the team needs to press, Shaka has done this his entire career.  MU knew this before they hired him and it is not going to change.

I will never take that again. I took a 1/2 once and I felt like I was on a spinning ride at Great America for like 45 mins.  It was extremely scary and unsettling.  Plus I didn't even sleep very long.  I'm generally not a fan of pills and that one I will never take again.

[fjm]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

Couldn’t post this in the thread already made about the game?
Or just needed the views

[nyg]

I will never take that again. I took a 1/2 once and I felt like I was on a spinning ride at Great America for like 45 mins.  It was extremely scary and unsettling.  Plus I didn't even sleep very long.  I'm generally not a fan of pills and that one I will never take again.

We are all in a spinning ride and unsettled with the number of "Topic Threads" you post.  Awaiting the one for what color shoelaces should the players wear.

Again, Shaka not going to stop pressing, playing fast on offense and being aggressive (yes, leads to more fouls) on defense.

[MuggsyB]

We are all in a spinning ride and unsettled with the number of "Topic Threads" you post.  Awaiting the one for what color shoelaces should the players wear.

Again, Shaka not going to stop pressing, playing fast on offense and being aggressive (yes, leads to more fouls) on defense.

Words don't make people vertiginous.  And it's a legitimate topic to discuss.

[BM1090]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

We can talk about strategy all day. Plenty of room for debate there. But there is no chance we should have won this game. They are significantly more talented than us, significantly more experienced than us, and they were at home. Adjust your expectations.

[MuggsyB]

We can talk about strategy all day. Plenty of room for debate there. But there is no chance we should have won this game. They are significantly more talented than us, significantly more experienced than us, and they were at home. Adjust your expectations.

I'm not saying on paper we should have won.  However I do feel on this particular day we had every chance to get the W.

[BCHoopster]

"Process" is just a cop-out to not have to deal with what happens in each game.

You can say "It will get better next year" for the next 5 years or so before being forced to acknowledge the reality of the situation.

It makes the fan feel better and comforts them

I disagree if it will be better next year, need at least one scoring big, maybe 2. If not, I can see a younger team.

[TrojanWarrior]

Muggsy,

Serious question. Did X outscout us with the strategy to create paint passes and foster MU fouls, or just greater talent by X?

I think Steele did his homework, but open to hear your take.

[tower912]

Steele made the. choice to attack the rack.  MU was not big enough or strong enough to stop them.   Just like UCLA..

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy,

Serious question. Did X outscout us with the strategy to create paint passes and foster MU fouls, or just greater talent by X?

I think Steele did his homework, but open to hear your take.

The 35-12 foul shot disparity was extreme.  As Tower wrote they did attack the rack far more often.  However, what Tower did nor write, is that many of their rack attacks had to with our matador press which allowed Odom in particular to have a career game.  Steele did a very good job of playing downhill vs our trapping and that was the biggest difference in the game.  They got point blank attempts 95% of the time against our 2-2-1 and were also very good in transition.  Steele also scouted our bigs biting on the slip screen which cost us three dunks late.

[MuggsyB]

One other thing that I've noticed and is an area where we can improve is Lewis recognizing the double down on the block earlier and passing out of it.  We can get better shots if he passes quickly when help comes and forces a little less
 

[bilsu]

One other thing that I've noticed and is an area where we can improve is Lewis recognizing the double down on the block earlier and passing out of it.  We can get better shots if he passes quickly when help comes and forces a little less
 

Both Lewis and Morsell at times make up their mind to shoot no matter what happens.

[Newsdreams]

Both Lewis and Morsell at times make up their mind to shoot no matter what happens.

They have full green light.

[Newsdreams]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

Muggs Shaka is going to keep on doing what he wants, there is no changing that unless you want to #fireShaka, else trust the process and R-E-L-A-X.

[Boone]

Neurotics can’t relax

[Boston Warrior]

UCLA is not Xavier… please stop the process of that narrative.. Marquette was blown out at home vs a big time opponent, Xavier which was a winnable game today and we get another chance at fiserv 

[MU82]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

We shouldn't "have won this game." Had we won, I promise you that every Xavier fan would have thought they should have won.

We could have won this game, yes. We didn't play well enough down the stretch to do so. We have zero go-to guys, poor 3-point shooting and not enough experience.

I really like you as a poster and am glad you came over to Scoop, so don't listen to the haters ... but I disagree that you know more about coaching this team than Shaka Smart does.

[MU1980]

We should have won this game.  Give Odom credit for a career night.  Thay said I vehemently disagree with Tower and others that this team needs to press versus every team because "that's the way Shaka wants to play".  You have to adapt and it killed us.  Lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, lay-up, corner triple, 4 footer, foul, foul, foul, etc, etc, etc.   

When we finally axed the press and had 5 straight possessions of good defense (although we didn't secure the D glass twice), it was too little to late and left us no margin for error.  I honestly believe this idea that we absolutely have to press everyone, because of the "system" or it's "for the future", is utter nonsense. You adapt to your personnel.  If we didn't press at all today I believe we would have won the  game.  Just my opinion.  It killed us and Odom should buy Shaka a nice ribeye.

From the time we hired Shaka until very recently, I had been excited about him as the Marquette coach and looked forward to the future of this program. However, over time, as I have read post after post after post by Muggsy, I realize that he knows so much more than Shaka ever could and he should be the coach. And he has been able to do this without being at practice everyday, without individual talks with players, without strategy talks with the assistant coaches, without knowing what has been discussed in the huddles, without knowing which players may be nursing an injury, etc., etc. I am confident that Lewis and Kolek do not do exactly what they should be doing on certain plays because either Shaka hasn’t told them or they just don’t want to listen to him. But with Muggsy’s far superior knowledge of college basketball, each player on the team would do exactly what they are supposed to on every single play, despite many of them being 18 and 19 year olds with very little experience. It really should be very easy to take a bunch of players that have never played together before, in a system they didn’t play in at their high school or previous college, and get them to execute that system with perfection on almost every single play.

Unfortunately I just don’t see the administration firing Shaka at this point to hire an MUScoop poster that surprisingly knows more than him, so I will have to use the ignore button for Muggsy so I don’t lose even more faith in Shaka. I so badly want to have faith in this coach and this program, but that can’t happen if I keep reading how he is doing just about everything wrong.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

While this game was winnable, I don’t think it’s one MU should have won. Opportunities lost. So many bunnies missed. So many dumb possessions. Less than equal officiating. Would have been an awesome one to steal, but the much better team won.

[4everwarriors]

I will never take that again. I took a 1/2 once and I felt like I was on a spinning ride at Great America for like 45 mins.  It was extremely scary and unsettling.  Plus I didn't even sleep very long.  I'm generally not a fan of pills and that one I will never take again.

Ya certain ur knot mixin' dat up wit Viagra, hey?

[muwarrior69]

From the time we hired Shaka until very recently, I had been excited about him as the Marquette coach and looked forward to the future of this program. However, over time, as I have read post after post after post by Muggsy, I realize that he knows so much more than Shaka ever could and he should be the coach. And he has been able to do this without being at practice everyday, without individual talks with players, without strategy talks with the assistant coaches, without knowing what has been discussed in the huddles, without knowing which players may be nursing an injury, etc., etc. I am confident that Lewis and Kolek do not do exactly what they should be doing on certain plays because either Shaka hasn’t told them or they just don’t want to listen to him. But with Muggsy’s far superior knowledge of college basketball, each player on the team would do exactly what they are supposed to on every single play, despite many of them being 18 and 19 year olds with very little experience. It really should be very easy to take a bunch of players that have never played together before, in a system they didn’t play in at their high school or previous college, and get them to execute that system with perfection on almost every single play.

Unfortunately I just don’t see the administration firing Shaka at this point to hire an MUScoop poster that surprisingly knows more than him, so I will have to use the ignore button for Muggsy so I don’t lose even more faith in Shaka. I so badly want to have faith in this coach and this program, but that can’t happen if I keep reading how he is doing just about everything wrong.

It couldn't be! If Hoopaloop is Chicos then Mugsy must be Ners.

[panda]

While this game was winnable, I don’t think it’s one MU should have won. Opportunities lost. So many bunnies missed. So many dumb possessions. Less than equal officiating. Would have been an awesome one to steal, but the much better team won.

It was a tight game, but I agree. Down the stretch we had one opportunity to make it a one possession game and squandered it. Otherwise it was always at least a two possession game. We were knocking at the door, but never could get in.

X is very very good.