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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1325 on: October 25, 2022, 10:14:14 AM »
Loaded guards room.

Give 'em some damn coffee and sober 'em up before our opener, OK?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1326 on: October 25, 2022, 10:49:47 AM »
And it is highly likely that none of Zaide, Tre, and Chase will be starters at the beginning of next season.

Kolek, Mitchell, Jones are most likely. Loaded guards room.

Not to mention Sean Jones.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1327 on: October 25, 2022, 10:55:37 AM »
And it is highly likely that none of Zaide, Tre, and Chase will be starters at the beginning of next season.

Kolek, Mitchell, Jones are most likely. Loaded guards room.

And Jones, first time I can tell the talent in the backcourt will be as good as ever, I can see somebody transferring

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1328 on: October 25, 2022, 11:10:13 AM »
And it is highly likely that none of Zaide, Tre, and Chase will be starters at the beginning of next season.

Kolek, Mitchell, Jones are most likely. Loaded guards room.

That’s a loaded backfield if I’ve ever seen one! Don’t forget Emarion, who seems to be very involved with the program even if in the background until next season.

Sounds like a fantasy nightmare, who to start and who to sit! Or like a coaches fantasy.

It’s interesting that before the ball even tips in 2022 you can start to see Shakas long term plan, in both the back court and front court.
He’s trying to get old and stay old with the first crop of players- TyKo, Kam, Stevie will be good seasoned guards next season as long as they are at MU. Sean Jones and Chase will have a year under their belt and Zaide/Tre will be coming in to start the next generation, along with Emarion.

Up front he’s clearly pushing the long/skinny/athletic bigs ala Oso, Keeyan, Amadou and sprinkling in a few of the pick and pop shooting types at the 4/5 (Ben Gold, recruiting Kneuppel). Then he’s trying to get some “do it all” 3/4s like Omax/Jop, even though those two aren’t quite there yet but they are working at it.

At that point I think we start to see him go after a few more top 50 recruits. He’s making it known that Oso will “handle the ball more than any big in the country,” not so much to tout Oso imo, but more so to use that as a recruiting schtick for the next crop of highly ranked bigs he’s going after. The best recruitment tool he can use is having Oso be successful enough in that role and then showing an elite recruit at an official visit against Wisconsin how he would be used when he comes in- new age bigs really want to handle the ball as much as possible because that’s where the game has gone.

If the younger guys outplay some of the upperclassmen then they win the spot and Shaka finds an important role for someone like Stevie/Emarion etc and so the cycle begins.

Seems like his recruiting vision is going as planned, let’s see how it translates on the court this season

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1329 on: October 25, 2022, 11:15:35 AM »
Seems like his recruiting vision is going as planned, let’s see how i translates on the court this season

Indeed.  Though the last few posts read like the annual pre-season "look how amazing we'll be in 2 years" threads.  They never really panned out with Crean, or Buzz, and definitely not Wojo, but perhaps Shaka will be different.  The previous coaches all had problems either developing these future impact players, or problems hanging on them.  Time will tell.

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« Reply #1330 on: October 25, 2022, 11:31:40 AM »
Indeed.  Though the last few posts read like the annual pre-season "look how amazing we'll be in 2 years" threads.  They never really panned out with Crean, or Buzz, and definitely not Wojo, but perhaps Shaka will be different.  The previous coaches all had problems either developing these future impact players, or problems hanging on them.  Time will tell.

Yep, I would love for every player on the roster to develop into a all conference type player, but history has shown that will not happen.  Let's start with getting more hits than misses and move forward from there.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1331 on: October 25, 2022, 11:37:47 AM »
Shaka will have the pieces for his preferred 3-guard line up as well as the ability to really extend the pressure.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1332 on: October 25, 2022, 12:38:18 PM »
Add in the fact that now we have to pay them to stay if they happen to excel and we have have a whole other layer of complication. 

Very interested to see if we can pay our next Jimmy, Jae, Wade etc. after their initial break out year that precedes their next great (all big East type) season. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1333 on: October 25, 2022, 12:50:49 PM »
I am excited that our next Jimmy, Jae, Wade, etc., will have the opportunity to benefit from his own name, image and likeness, as is the case for every other student at Marquette.
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« Reply #1334 on: October 25, 2022, 01:54:19 PM »
I am excited that our next Jimmy, Jae, Wade, etc., will have the opportunity to benefit from his own name, image and likeness, as is the case for every other student at Marquette.

100%.  Just hope it’s at MU so we can enjoy it! 
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1335 on: October 25, 2022, 02:24:44 PM »
100%.  Just hope it’s at MU so we can enjoy it!

It will be.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1336 on: October 25, 2022, 02:26:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1584984711440453632?t=e1eFhhApxlziW7HD5ioeMg&s=19

Still not seeing any Stevie, but this team has some exciting abilities. 13 days is forever away.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1337 on: October 25, 2022, 02:35:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1584984711440453632?t=e1eFhhApxlziW7HD5ioeMg&s=19

Still not seeing any Stevie, but this team has some exciting abilities. 13 days is forever away.

He was seen in a walking boot
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1338 on: October 25, 2022, 02:49:58 PM »
He was seen in a walking boot

It actually was the kind of boot that's put on a car when the owner has too many tickets.

It really looked painful on Stevie.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1339 on: October 25, 2022, 03:21:44 PM »
It will be.

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TBD 82.  Hope so.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1340 on: October 25, 2022, 06:31:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1584984711440453632?t=e1eFhhApxlziW7HD5ioeMg&s=19

Still not seeing any Stevie, but this team has some exciting abilities. 13 days is forever away.

Missed the part where TKO was laying into Jop. Excited to hear some reports out of the open gym on Thursday.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1341 on: October 26, 2022, 04:51:13 PM »
Loving the Kam hype and hope its real. But it seems like all pundits are just following each other and saying the same thing about us. 9th ish place but Kam could surprise.

Could go any number of ways but my hope is Kam is pretty damn good but also causing all reports to be lazy and really overlook the rest of the roster. So that we really surprise.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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« Reply #1342 on: October 26, 2022, 06:48:56 PM »
Loving the Kam hype and hope its real. But it seems like all pundits are just following each other and saying the same thing about us. 9th ish place but Kam could surprise.

Could go any number of ways but my hope is Kam is pretty damn good but also causing all reports to be lazy and really overlook the rest of the roster. So that we really surprise.

I’m not sure where we’ll finish but I’m pretty confident it will be better than 9th.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1343 on: October 26, 2022, 06:50:18 PM »
I’m not sure where we’ll finish but I’m pretty confident it will be better than 9th.

After seeing snippets of scrimmages and practices and now seeing a bit of St. John's in an exhibition tonight, I don't see anything impressive about them. Nothing at all.

They are one of the teams picked ahead of the Golden Eagles.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1344 on: October 26, 2022, 08:00:28 PM »
https://youtu.be/0g49XeERMys

(Around the 51 minute mark) John Fanta asked Lavall Jordan, Rob Dauster, and Scoop Jardine:

Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Butler. You get to buy 2 stocks, who are you buying in to.

Lavall: Marquette and Providence
Dauster: Marquette and Butler (and Providence)
Scoop: Marquette and...Georgetown

There is Marquette buy-in to Shaka's system and culture from the outsiders and Lavall having faced him.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1345 on: October 27, 2022, 01:32:45 AM »
https://theathletic.com/3726862/2022/10/26/basketball-recruiting-work-ethic/?source=user_shared_article

This article in the athletic defines in many ways the players Shaka and many other successful coaches are looking for (work ethic and competitiveness play a huge role). Self explains why many of his most successful players were from outside the top 100.  He looks for shooting and explosiveness with work ethic.  He’d rather have players that stay 2-3 years rather than one and dones.   Sounds exactly like Shaka’s recruiting and retaining philosophy at MU.

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« Reply #1346 on: October 27, 2022, 07:04:50 AM »
https://theathletic.com/3726862/2022/10/26/basketball-recruiting-work-ethic/?source=user_shared_article

This article in the athletic defines in many ways the players Shaka and many other successful coaches are looking for (work ethic and competitiveness play a huge role). Self explains why many of his most successful players were from outside the top 100.  He looks for shooting and explosiveness with work ethic.  He’d rather have players that stay 2-3 years rather than one and dones.   Sounds exactly like Shaka’s recruiting and retaining philosophy at MU.

Excellent article. The paragraph quoting Tony Bennett about what he is looking for before a player is ready to play ... that definitely translates to what Shaka is looking for.

For that matter, it's universal all the way down to the high school and even middle school levels. Heck, I might read it to my kids at our first practice next week!
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1347 on: October 27, 2022, 08:45:46 AM »
I am excited that our next Jimmy, Jae, Wade, etc., will have the opportunity to benefit from his own name, image and likeness, as is the case for every other student at Marquette.

...and 55% of those students will have nearly 30k in student loans to pay back; unlike the next Jimmy, Jae, Wade, etc.

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« Reply #1348 on: October 27, 2022, 08:56:58 AM »
...and 55% of those students will have nearly 30k in student loans to pay back; unlike the next Jimmy, Jae, Wade, etc.

So?
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« Reply #1349 on: October 27, 2022, 12:42:42 PM »
I continue to be enthusiastic about the Outlook for this years squad . My bullishness stems from the view that I believe all the individuals will improve . Further , Shaka has these kids understand if they play for each other good thing gs will happen.

The Big Wast will be tough, however , I don’t see any teams that are unbeatable from MU perspective . I believe we can have a winning season in conference .
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