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Author Topic: Get Rid of the Charge  (Read 15661 times)

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2023, 06:58:30 PM »
The refs aren’t our issue tonight. But LOL at just deciding “the next contact I take I’m just falling as hard as I can” and getting a turnover out of it. Marcus Smart getting DPOY by simply doing that is embarrassing, and we’ll just see more and more of it.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2023, 08:38:34 PM »
The refs aren’t our issue tonight. But LOL at just deciding “the next contact I take I’m just falling as hard as I can” and getting a turnover out of it. Marcus Smart getting DPOY by simply doing that is embarrassing, and we’ll just see more and more of it.

I don’t understand how that isn’t a point of emphasis for the Big East. If there isn’t an elbow or a hook, there should never be a charge on a back down in the post. They’re all flops by the defender.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2023, 08:57:36 PM »
I don’t understand how that isn’t a point of emphasis for the Big East. If there isn’t an elbow or a hook, there should never be a charge on a back down in the post. They’re all flops by the defender.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2023, 11:19:02 AM »
Yeah…that’s not accurate.

Last night it was.  Alleyne's flops were Davison-esqe, yet he got at least two calls on them.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2023, 11:25:59 AM »
I don’t understand how that isn’t a point of emphasis for the Big East. If there isn’t an elbow or a hook, there should never be a charge on a back down in the post. They’re all flops by the defender.

Sorry, but what? You don't think there can be any offensive fouls for a back down in the post?
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2023, 02:42:53 PM »
I don't think you can rid of the charge. I am a fan of expanding the restricted area and making it a violation instead of a foul.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #81 on: February 08, 2023, 03:49:04 PM »
I don't think you can rid of the charge. I am a fan of expanding the restricted area and making it a violation instead of a foul.

Yep yep. One more change though- no charge call when the defender slides right in front of the ball handler. That should be a block.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #83 on: June 08, 2023, 09:57:54 PM »
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2023/6/8/media-center-change-to-legal-guarding-position-approved-for-mens-basketball.aspx

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Some other interesting rule changes in there, including:

++ Under two minutes, when a coach requests an out-of-bounds play be reviewed, that team will be charged a timeout if the original call is not overturned.

(This should help speed up the end of games, which often become interminable bores.)

++ A timeout will be able to be granted when a player has possession of the ball even though the player is airborne. An example would be a player grabbing a loose ball and calling timeout before landing out of bounds.

(This used to be allowed but they stopped allowing it several years ago.)

++ Players will be allowed to wear numbers 0-99.

(Nice. There's no good reason players shouldn't be restricted to the numbers they have been.)
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2023, 10:04:21 PM »
Yep yep. One more change though- no charge call when the defender slides right in front of the ball handler. That should be a block.

Bump.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #85 on: June 09, 2023, 06:18:47 AM »
Get rid of the Eurostep next.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #86 on: June 09, 2023, 07:15:50 AM »
Get rid of the dunk next

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #87 on: June 09, 2023, 07:18:22 AM »
Get rid of the dunk next

And the 3-pointer and shot clock. 
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #88 on: June 09, 2023, 07:43:50 AM »
++ A timeout will be able to be granted when a player has possession of the ball even though the player is airborne. An example would be a player grabbing a loose ball and calling timeout before landing out of bounds.

(This used to be allowed but they stopped allowing it several years ago.)

I have no idea why they decided to bring this back.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #89 on: June 09, 2023, 08:03:28 AM »
I have no idea why they decided to bring this back.

My only guess is that it encourages the use of timeouts outside of end of game situations. Theoretically could improve "pace of play"

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« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2023, 11:40:58 AM »
I have no idea why they decided to bring this back.

Because it’s logical.

For each rule change, the rationale behind it is discussed.

On this one, it’s very basic: they decided that if a player had possession of the ball, they should be entitled to request a timeout.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2023, 11:45:00 AM »
Because it’s logical.

For each rule change, the rationale behind it is discussed.

On this one, it’s very basic: they decided that if a player had possession of the ball, they should be entitled to request a timeout.

I understand that rationale. It just seemed like there wasn't a particular reason why they decided to revisit that rule at this point.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2023, 04:20:51 PM »
Some other interesting rule changes in there, including:

++ Under two minutes, when a coach requests an out-of-bounds play be reviewed, that team will be charged a timeout if the original call is not overturned.

(This should help speed up the end of games, which often become interminable bores.)

++ A timeout will be able to be granted when a player has possession of the ball even though the player is airborne. An example would be a player grabbing a loose ball and calling timeout before landing out of bounds.

(This used to be allowed but they stopped allowing it several years ago.)

++ Players will be allowed to wear numbers 0-99.

(Nice. There's no good reason players shouldn't be restricted to the numbers they have been.)

How about PI, you know 3.14159 etc? The rule does not stipulate whole numbers.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2023, 04:25:39 PM »
Nooooooooooo
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #94 on: June 09, 2023, 04:47:50 PM »
How about PI, you know 3.14159 etc? The rule does not stipulate whole numbers.

#FakeNews #Lies

The actual rule (rule 1 section 22 article 7) spells out the specific numbers allowed. Strange way perhaps.. vs. “whole numbers between….” But that’s the rule.

You also can use 0 or 00…. But not both
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« Reply #95 on: June 09, 2023, 06:30:33 PM »
#FakeNews #Lies

The actual rule (rule 1 section 22 article 7) spells out the specific numbers allowed. Strange way perhaps.. vs. “whole numbers between….” But that’s the rule.

You also can use 0 or 00…. But not both

Awe, that sucks, but I stand corrected.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2023, 11:09:33 AM »
I just finished watching a documentary about Mary Tyler Moore.

Fun fact:  Her character on the Dick Van Dyke Show, Laura Petrie, was the first woman on a TV series who wore pants on a regular basis.  Even then, there were strict rules from the censors about how tight they could be in the, er, hip area.
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« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2023, 11:44:39 AM »
I just finished watching a documentary about Mary Tyler Moore.

Fun fact:  Her character on the Dick Van Dyke Show, Laura Petrie, was the first woman on a TV series who wore pants on a regular basis.  Even then, there were strict rules from the censors about how tight they could be in the, er, hip area.

In one of his All Creatures Great and Small books, British vet James Herriot wrote about his young wife assisting him on farm calls just before the outbreak of WWII. She was wearing pants, much to the surprise, or perhaps I should say shock, of the very conservative Yorkshire farmers.   
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« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2023, 12:12:06 PM »
In one of his All Creatures Great and Small books, British vet James Herriot wrote about his young wife assisting him on farm calls just before the outbreak of WWII. She was wearing pants, much to the surprise, or perhaps I should say shock, of the very conservative Yorkshire farmers.

Great show on PBS by the way. My mom was factory worker and required to wear pants for her job in the 1950s. I'm sure all the Rosy the riveters during the War years wore only skirts.
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