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Pakuni

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Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« on: January 28, 2022, 02:55:12 PM »
#3 on his best new coaches list.

3. Shaka Smart, Marquette: Smart is in the perfect spot for him: A basketball-centric school. He did win the Big 12 tournament at Texas. So it’s not like he didn’t have success. But he thrived at VCU. Now, he’s done quite a reversal within the season. The Golden Eagles have wins over Illinois, Providence, Seton Hall and at Villanova. They are going not just be in but get a good seed.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/andy-katz-basketball/2022-01-28/mens-basketball-ranking-top-10-new-coaches-andy-katz
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2022, 03:29:10 PM »
If we're doing best coaching jobs this season by new hires it's Shaka 1, TJO 2.  Would listen to the argument to flip the two.  Shaka's team has the best wins of any of the new coaches, and he's had a much bigger turnaround from last year to this year than Arizona or Texas Tech had.  TJO's team has had a much bigger turnaround than MU, but MU has the stronger resume currently.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2022, 03:33:26 PM »
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2022, 03:29:10 PM
If we're doing best coaching jobs this season by new hires it's Shaka 1, TJO 2.  Would listen to the argument to flip the two.  Shaka's team has the best wins of any of the new coaches, and he's had a much bigger turnaround from last year to this year than Arizona or Texas Tech had.  TJO's team has had a much bigger turnaround than MU, but MU has the stronger resume currently.

Agreed. As impressive as TT has been I have no clue how Adams is in front of Shaka. Their team is old as hell and retained some key players from a team that was really good.

Zona, at least has been consistently in the top 10 at worst all year so thats pretty impressive.

Shaka and TJO have destroyed expectations far more than anyone.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2022, 03:52:43 PM »
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 28, 2022, 03:33:26 PM
Agreed. As impressive as TT has been I have no clue how Adams is in front of Shaka. Their team is old as hell and retained some key players from a team that was really good.

Zona, at least has been consistently in the top 10 at worst all year so thats pretty impressive.

Shaka and TJO have destroyed expectations far more than anyone.

Zona brought back a TON of talent.  Miller's last class was borderline top 5 and they all stayed.  And Benedict Mathurin was a lower ranked member of that class who turned into a top 7 pick over the last year and change.  Plus a top 75 recruit for 2021 that they retained.

ISU and MU are kind of on opposite tracks.  ISU started hot, though their best wins besides X and TTU look like fools gold (Memphis, Creighton, Iowa, Texas) and cooled off.

And totally agree about TTU.  Their top 5 scorers/minutes guys are all 5th and 6th year guys, 2 of whom have always been at TTU.  And it was a good tournament team that he took over.  If they were a top 5 squad I could buy it.  But he hasn't done anything THAT special there this year.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2022, 05:36:39 PM »
Shaka #3?   I assume Porter Moser is #1 and #2 on the list....
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2022, 05:41:28 PM »
If I am remembering right Zona is younger than Marquette. I believe they said on a November broadcast that MU had the third most freshmen and Arizona had the most. That of course is counting 2nd year freshmen.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2022, 07:55:06 PM »
Quote from: bilsu on January 28, 2022, 05:41:28 PM
If I am remembering right Zona is younger than Marquette. I believe they said on a November broadcast that MU had the third most freshmen and Arizona had the most. That of course is counting 2nd year freshmen.

I'm not a fan of the freshman trick. Justin Lewis, Bennedict Mathurin, Tyler Kolek, Dalen Terry, Oso Ighodaro, and Kerr Kriisa are not freshmen.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2022, 08:23:10 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2022, 07:55:06 PM
I'm not a fan of the freshman trick. Justin Lewis, Bennedict Mathurin, Tyler Kolek, Dalen Terry, Oso Ighodaro, and Kerr Kriisa are not freshmen.

Oso is probably the one exception I'd make. He only played 38 minutes last year. I think he would have redshirted had it been a normal year.

Football players can play a few games and still redshirt. I think basketball should do something similar, but with a minutes limit. Maybe 50 or 100 tops.

So, I think of Oso as a RS-freshman.  Lewis, Kolek, and O-Max I think of as sophomores.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2022, 09:28:32 PM »
Quote from: bilsu on January 28, 2022, 05:41:28 PM
If I am remembering right Zona is younger than Marquette. I believe they said on a November broadcast that MU had the third most freshmen and Arizona had the most. That of course is counting 2nd year freshmen.

Arizona lists 18 guys on their roster.  It doesn't appear any of their true freshmen are in their rotation.
1 six-year guy, 1 four-year guys, 1 three year guy, 5 second year guys
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2022, 09:37:28 PM »
National reporter says something nice about Marquette 
Scoop gets mad because it's not nice enough.
Never change, Scoop
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2022, 09:49:06 PM »
Quote from: Pakuni on January 28, 2022, 09:37:28 PM
National reporter says something nice about Marquette 
Scoop gets mad because it's not nice enough.
Never change, Scoop

Or Scoop just debates the list.
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2022, 12:02:40 AM »
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2022, 09:49:06 PM
Or Scoop just debates the list.
Scoop sucks
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Re: Shaka gets some praise from Andy Katz
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2022, 07:08:02 AM »
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 29, 2022, 12:02:40 AM
Scoop sucks

Scoop is the Tom Crean of basketball fan forums. ;D
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2022, 08:02:20 AM »
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 29, 2022, 07:08:02 AM
Scoop is the Tom Crean of basketball fan forums. ;D
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