Author Topic: Bizarre story with Alec Baldwin (Read 7280 times)

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #50 on:** October 25, 2021, 06:06:18 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 25, 2021, 04:09:39 PM

So it's been verified it was s real pistol?? How could a real gun be on the set?

Real guns are used all the time. Usually there is a qualified 'gun guy' who is in charge of everything firearm related.

StillAWarrior · « **Reply #51 on:** October 25, 2021, 06:19:42 PM »

Quote from: CTWarrior on October 25, 2021, 02:54:43 PM

This. It seems like if you don't have any live rounds anywhere on set and you make sure the guns are emptied before bringing them on set, this would never happen. Again, I don't know the movie business, but it seems this could be prevented by very modest means and a simplest procedures. It has to be either criminal neglect or intentional, one would think.

As others have said, I’ve read in a number of places that “live” rounds on a movie set is what most would think of as blanks. They make a realistic bang and can have projectiles.

I also read that proper protocol is that real ammunition is absolutely never, ever supposed to be on a movie set. Ever. So, exactly as you’re suggesting. Sometimes they want real-looking bullets that will be seen, but those aren’t live and don’t have powder (and I read they make them so they rattle when you shake them to prevent confusion).

Based on what I’ve read, there are many rules and regulations to prevent this sort of tragedy from occurring (including, not insignificantly, never pointing the gun at anyone). This likely isn’t the result of not enough rules. This is the result of not following the rules.

warriorchick · « **Reply #52 on:** October 25, 2021, 06:37:47 PM »

Quote from: jficke13 on October 25, 2021, 04:22:54 PM

An actor famously died on set by placing a gun loaded with a live (blank) round to his head and pulling the trigger not realizing that was a lethal decision.

I remember this. Jon-Erik Hexum in the mid-eighties. He was on the set of his TV show and responded to a continued delay in filming by jokingly holding a prop gun to his temple and pulling the trigger. The wadding in the gun expelled and killed him.

real chili 83 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 26, 2021, 07:00:56 PM »

I heard it was an elephant gun.

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #54 on:** October 26, 2021, 07:38:25 PM »

Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 25, 2021, 06:19:42 PM

This likely isn’t the result of not enough rules. This is the result of not following the rules.

True here and in the vast majority of all tragic accidents.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #55 on:** October 26, 2021, 07:59:02 PM »

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 26, 2021, 07:38:25 PM

True here and in the vast majority of all tragic accidents.

True but many of the actors on the set are saying the environment was an utter s-show.

forgetful · « **Reply #56 on:** October 26, 2021, 09:16:59 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 26, 2021, 07:59:02 PM

True but many of the actors on the set are saying the environment was an utter s-show.

Apparently cutting corners and not properly staffing the prop/armory.

So a person died because people tried to save a few bucks. Meanwhile I'm sure several actors were being paid millions. Them cutting their salary by a small fraction would mean a life would have been saved.

So bottom line, it comes down to greed.

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #57 on:** December 03, 2021, 08:34:07 PM »

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #58 on:** December 03, 2021, 09:49:01 PM »

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2021, 08:34:07 PM

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

I didn't see it but heard that he said he thought this woman fainted and he didn't realize she was shot until 45 mins later?? How on earth Is that plausible? I guess I thought I tomahawk dunked on Kur Kuath but didn't realize I couldn't have until 45 mins later?

wadesworld · « **Reply #59 on:** December 03, 2021, 10:13:15 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 03, 2021, 09:49:01 PM

I didn't see it but heard that he said he thought this woman fainted and he didn't realize she was shot until 45 mins later?? How on earth Is that plausible? I guess I thought I tomahawk dunked on Kur Kuath but didn't realize I couldn't have until 45 mins later?

You thought you were Ners. Happens to us all at some point.