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Welcome Mr. Jones

Started by TAMU, Knower of Ball, August 13, 2021, 02:54:39 PM

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Its DJOver

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 17, 2021, 08:42:10 PM
The biggest problem with Rowsey and Howard was Markus ended up defending the opponent's best guard every night. That's not a recipe for success.

Though "not a recipe for success" describes Wojo's tenure on the whole.

Kind of in line with your thinking, but I think that a huge problem was that Wojo never really figured out that your couldn't play both of them together for an extended period.  To some extent you can hide one sub 6' player on defense, but if you roll with two of them together for 25+ish mpg, you're going to get burned. 

Would have been somewhat difficult to justify at the time, but I really wonder how that 17-18 season would have gone if instead of them both playing 30+ mpg, they each would have only played 25 mpg with 5 together.  I also think that if Haani doesn't transfer midseason, we're a tourney team that year, but Wojo had more than enough time after that transfer to figure it out, and he never did.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Its DJOver on August 17, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Would have been somewhat difficult to justify at the time, but I really wonder how that 17-18 season would have gone if instead of them both playing 30+ mpg, they each would have only played 25 mpg with 5 together.  I also think that if Haani doesn't transfer midseason, we're a tourney team that year, but Wojo had more than enough time after that transfer to figure it out, and he never did.
The sum total of his strategy was to get highly ranked recruits and extort them to play hard. That was it. He didn't figure out because that was the beginning and end of his strategy.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34 on August 17, 2021, 09:39:31 PM
The sum total of his strategy was to get highly ranked recruits and extort them to play hard. That was it. He didn't figure out because that was the beginning and end of his strategy.

Extort them?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on August 17, 2021, 06:36:30 PM
It wasn't a Howard problem. It was a team construction and coaching problem.

I agree with this 1000%.  Wish Howard had better...something/everything...from the HC.


MU82

Quote from: TSmith34 on August 18, 2021, 07:15:19 AM
LOL. Exhort.

I thought that's what you meant but I didn't want to assume. I mean, Wojo has been accused of just about everything else, so why not extortion, too?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 01:38:17 PM
I thought that's what you meant but I didn't want to assume. I mean, Wojo has been accused of just about everything else, so why not extortion, too?

The FBI teams bribed and won. Wojo extorted and lost. Too bad his teams were bad on steals as well. Wojo just couldn't get the criminal thing down, hey?

MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 01:45:49 PM
The FBI teams bribed and won. Wojo extorted and lost. Too bad his teams were bad on steals as well. Wojo just couldn't get the criminal thing down, hey?

Indeed, his teams ended up getting whacked year after year!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 01:46:42 PM
Indeed, his teams ended up getting whacked year after year!

His numbers game was not good either. Too often his crew paid out more than they took in.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 13, 2021, 03:34:40 PM
I think the difference between Mr. Jones and the previous 5'10 PG stories at MU is that he is known as a defensive plus whereas the the ones under Wojo were known for their offensive prowess. That doesn't make him better or worse (though I seriously doubt he'll be as good as Howard or Rowdy), just different.

His moves and body language remind me a lot of Derrick Wilson.

MU82

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 19, 2021, 12:24:26 PM
His moves and body language remind me a lot of Derrick Wilson.

From the little bit we saw on film, our new PG is quicker than Derrick, and with a far better handle. But yes, I definitely see some similarities, too.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

mileskishnish72

There are some similarities, but unlike Derrick (or Junior for that matter) he appears to be able to go to his left when the occasion calls for it.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://www.cerebrosports.com/blog/eybl-review-floor-general-skills-fgs

A really good article breaking down Mr. Jones' game. Gotta say I'm excited about this pickup
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 19, 2021, 09:33:13 PM
https://www.cerebrosports.com/blog/eybl-review-floor-general-skills-fgs

A really good article breaking down Mr. Jones' game. Gotta say I'm excited about this pickup
Mr. Jones is an excellent prospect .
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MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 19, 2021, 09:33:13 PM
https://www.cerebrosports.com/blog/eybl-review-floor-general-skills-fgs

A really good article breaking down Mr. Jones' game. Gotta say I'm excited about this pickup

Love that, TAMU. Thanks for posting!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

brewcity77

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 19, 2021, 09:33:13 PM
https://www.cerebrosports.com/blog/eybl-review-floor-general-skills-fgs

A really good article breaking down Mr. Jones' game. Gotta say I'm excited about this pickup

Great article. I really hope he likes Milwaukee
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Marqevans

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 20, 2021, 12:33:42 PM
Great article. I really hope he likes Milwaukee

What's not to like about 36 degrees and rainy?

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Marqevans on August 24, 2021, 11:56:59 AM
What's not to like about 36 degrees and rainy?

The fact that that's considered a warm spring day
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 19, 2021, 09:33:13 PM
https://www.cerebrosports.com/blog/eybl-review-floor-general-skills-fgs

A really good article breaking down Mr. Jones' game. Gotta say I'm excited about this pickup

Looks like he traveled on one or two of those plays.

LAZER


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 24, 2021, 12:56:30 PM
Looks like he traveled on one or two of those plays.

He didn't.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 24, 2021, 12:56:30 PM
Looks like he traveled on one or two of those plays.

Yeah, Mr. Naismith, it was the one where the ball ended up in the peach basket.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

tower912

Before or after the 5 passes leading to a set shot?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.