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Author Topic: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid  (Read 8274 times)

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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2021, 10:08:11 PM »
Posting a pic of a white flag would have just been easier.
Great, two people with reading comprehension issues.

If anyone has problems with what I originally posted I'd welcome intelligent comments.

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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2021, 11:17:53 PM »
Great, two people with reading comprehension issues.

If anyone has problems with what I originally posted I'd welcome intelligent comments.

I asked what your definition of "around the corner" is for basketball/football being separated from universities. I'm honestly curious how quickly you think this will happen.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2021, 03:23:40 AM »
I asked what your definition of "around the corner" is for basketball/football being separated from universities. I'm honestly curious how quickly you think this will happen.

It won’t. This idea ignores why colleges and universities sponsor Athletics to begin with.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2021, 05:51:42 AM »
Great, two people with reading comprehension issues.

No, it's still just one, but not the one you think it is.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2021, 08:09:50 AM »
I think it is pretty obvious that when you read this opinion, that the Court's attitude about the NCAA has changed quite a bit since the 1984 Board of Regents' ruling, mostly because of the massive amounts of money that has entered the system.  I am pretty sure that this ruling would be different had we still be talking about 1984 money instead of 2021 money.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2021, 09:27:21 AM »
I think it is pretty obvious that when you read this opinion, that the Court's attitude about the NCAA has changed quite a bit since the 1984 Board of Regents' ruling, mostly because of the massive amounts of money that has entered the system.  I am pretty sure that this ruling would be different had we still be talking about 1984 money instead of 2021 money.

Yep, because central to the ruling is that the NCAA model prevents athletes from obtaining their true market value.

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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2021, 09:41:07 AM »
So what is the practical effect of this decision. The players can negotiate a percentage of sales from the spirit shop with their numbers/names on MU gear? Coaches can give a recruit a t-shirt or ride to the airport? A player can go to a baseball game with a fellow classmate who has an extra ticket? Just wondering?

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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2021, 09:50:15 AM »
So what is the practical effect of this decision. The players can negotiate a percentage of sales from the spirit shop with their numbers/names on MU gear? Coaches can give a recruit a t-shirt or ride to the airport? A player can go to a baseball game with a fellow classmate who has an extra ticket? Just wondering?

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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2021, 12:38:53 PM »
So what is the practical effect of this decision. The players can negotiate a percentage of sales from the spirit shop with their numbers/names on MU gear? Coaches can give a recruit a t-shirt or ride to the airport? A player can go to a baseball game with a fellow classmate who has an extra ticket? Just wondering?
The importance is in the opinion, it basically tells ncaa they better figure out how to properly compensate athletes or on the next one, coming soon, if that isn't done they'll use Thor's hammer on ncaa
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2021, 02:35:19 PM »
From the parts of the decision that I've read, I think the argument boils down to profitability.  Most major schools (and the NCAA in general) make a pretty hefty profit off of their football and basketball athletes.  To the courts, those athletes should be seen as employees, and even factoring in things like scholarships, room & board, etc., they're being paid well below market rate.  You could say that basketball players have a choice if they don't like it (particularly now with the G-League, etc.), but football doesn't really provide that option. 

At the high school level, if a school district is making a significant profit off of sports teams (and, thus, the athletes on those teams), I think the same argument would apply.  That certainly happens in some rare instances, but more often than not, high school sports aren't going to be profitable for the district.  The same could be said for just about every other college sport outside of football and basketball.

For HS sports, I think the main application will be allowing private schools to provide scholarships without proving need by the student receiving it.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2021, 02:41:13 PM »
Does this take effect immediately? 

For instance, could we make an offer to Garcia today to entice him to come back?

Yes, we can all sign a pledge to never mention him again in a Scoop thread.
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Re: Supreme Court rules that NCAA cannot bar athletes from being paid
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2021, 10:52:06 AM »
New company formed to help athletes navigate NIL. I'm sure this will not be the only one.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/ncaa-student-athletes-name-image-likeness-industry