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Herman Cain

Excellent win for Morikowa.

He faced down strong competition and won it. Leaderboard full of major winners.

Collin stripes his irons. When he puts well he is going to be right there in these big events.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

tower912

A few.  The question will be putting and super long set ups.   The irons and the brain are primo.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on July 18, 2021, 12:51:38 PM
A few.  The question will be putting and super long set ups.   The irons and the brain are primo.
Very good head in his shoulders . Nice acceptance speech and interview after was well done
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on July 18, 2021, 12:51:38 PM
A few.  The question will be putting and super long set ups.   The irons and the brain are primo.

I'll give an over/under of 5 since only Tiger and Phil have beaten that number this century.
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

His mental toughness makes me think he could snag 8 or more.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 18, 2021, 01:32:45 PM
His mental toughness makes me think he could snag 8 or more.

Thought the Dane of Rory, JDay, Spieth, etc. 

He's an incredible player but winning majors is hard.  Nonetheless, it's a great to have a player of his caliber winning them early.  Going for more is fun to watch
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Entering a golden age.  Look forward to the Spieth, Morikawa, Koepka, JT, DJ, Bryson, Hovland, Rahm shootouts.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 18, 2021, 01:50:53 PM
Thought the Dane of Rory, JDay, Spieth, etc. 

He's an incredible player but winning majors is hard.  Nonetheless, it's a great to have a player of his caliber winning them early.  Going for more is fun to watch

Its crazy to think how good Day was for a stretch.  His back really let him down.

Also crazy to think the Spieth is on some sort of redemption/comeback tour...at 27.  Just shows how unreal he was at a super young age.

Quote from: tower912 on July 18, 2021, 02:16:58 PM
Entering a golden age.  Look forward to the Spieth, Morikawa, Koepka, JT, DJ, Bryson, Hovland, Rahm shootouts.

Bit too early for Hovland to be in that group IMO.  But he shows promise.

Hopefully this can finally shut people up about Tiger.  There are so many fun, charismatic, exciting young golfers out there right now.  If you cant find a reason to watch golf now without Tiger, you never really liked golf, you just like the relentless Nike marketing of Tiger

MU82

I absolutely thought Rory would have 6, 7, 8 or more majors by now and that folks would be talking about his chances to be considered an all-time great.

That he hasn't won another in 7 full years since taking the 2014 PGA Championship -- his 4th major after having just turned 25 -- is beyond surprising to me.

And Spieth, what a roll he was on before he was 24.

So while Morikawa looks like he has everything, I'll join Rico and others in saying, "We'll see."

I agree with those who say that the next several years should be a lot of fun to follow the Tour.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

I think one of Rory's problems is he seem to not have his game peaked at the majors.

Seems like since his last major win he has done well on things like the FedEx Cup tournaments , WGC and Race to Dubai events. For example he had a big year in 2019 with 4 wins including The Players but got shut out of the majors .

With the current depth of competition now it gets much harder to win a major in any given year . In the post Tiger era so many different guys have won a major it makes it so hard to close out a tournament.

The Open leaderboard today is a great example . 6 players in the top 8 have previous major wins.

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

How would you pair up our Ryder Cup team? 

MU82

Quote from: Herman Cain on July 18, 2021, 03:44:17 PM
I think one of Rory's problems is he seem to not have his game peaked at the majors.

Perhaps, but nobody was saying this when Rory was Morikawa's age ... because he was winning majors.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: Herman Cain on July 18, 2021, 03:44:17 PM
I think one of Rory's problems is he seem to not have his game peaked at the majors.

Seems like since his last major win he has done well on things like the FedEx Cup tournaments , WGC and Race to Dubai events. For example he had a big year in 2019 with 4 wins including The Players but got shut out of the majors .

Rory is a fascinating example of perception.  He won 4 majors by 25 and around 2014 people were talking about him as a future legend.

Now a lot of people are like "man what happened to Rory?  he fell off"  cause he hasn't won a major since.

The reality?  Since 2014, Rory has 13, THIRTEEN top 10 finishes in majors.  He's finished out of the top 15 in the money list once in 7 years.  Outside of the top 8 on the money list only twice, in 2017 and 2018.  He's been a really damn good golfer, he just hasn't won a major.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on July 18, 2021, 08:37:47 PM
Rory is a fascinating example of perception.  He won 4 majors by 25 and around 2014 people were talking about him as a future legend.

Now a lot of people are like "man what happened to Rory?  he fell off"  cause he hasn't won a major since.

The reality?  Since 2014, Rory has 13, THIRTEEN top 10 finishes in majors.  He's finished out of the top 15 in the money list once in 7 years.  Outside of the top 8 on the money list only twice, in 2017 and 2018.  He's been a really damn good golfer, he just hasn't won a major.

All true, Wags.

The only thing is that these guys themselves -- especially the best players -- use majors to define their golfing success, not to mention their place in history.

Same with tennis. Sure, they'll happily take wins in Florida and Spain, but the best use majors to judge everything.

Tiger and Djokovic, among others, have talked about this at length.

So yes, Rory is a hell of a golfer, and only an idiot would dispute that. But no majors in 7 years for a guy who looked like he'd win a ton of them ... I'm quite sure he's more disappointed about that than anybody.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer

Quote from: JWags85 on July 18, 2021, 08:37:47 PM
Rory is a fascinating example of perception.  He won 4 majors by 25 and around 2014 people were talking about him as a future legend.

Now a lot of people are like "man what happened to Rory?  he fell off"  cause he hasn't won a major since.

The reality?  Since 2014, Rory has 13, THIRTEEN top 10 finishes in majors.  He's finished out of the top 15 in the money list once in 7 years.  Outside of the top 8 on the money list only twice, in 2017 and 2018.  He's been a really damn good golfer, he just hasn't won a major.

Yep. I have a friend who has won two majors, both the open.
He describes how many things have to go right to win a major. Heck to even make it on the tour is a fine line.

🏀

Quote from: pbiflyer on July 18, 2021, 11:57:17 PM
Yep. I have a friend who has won two majors, both the open.
He describes how many things have to go right to win a major. Heck to even make it on the tour is a fine line.


You're friends with Big Easy?

pbiflyer

Quote from: Retire0 on July 19, 2021, 05:52:18 AM
You're friends with Big Easy?

No, though I live close to the Els Center and I do know his son's guide. So a degree away from him.
But I misspoke my friend only won it once. Came close a second time. Sorry.

🏀

Quote from: pbiflyer on July 19, 2021, 07:01:34 AM
No, though I live close to the Els Center and I do know his son's guide. So a degree away from him.
But I misspoke my friend only won it once. Came close a second time. Sorry.

Louie?! No he's had several close calls.

I'm sure ZJ is a cool guy.

pbiflyer

Mark Calcavecchia. But have not seen him since B.C. (Before Covid).
Not sure why I always think he won two. And if it weren't for Sandy Lyle's birdie run at Augusta he would have had a green jacket to match.

Wild to think his daughter, Britney, will be turning 32 years old shortly. Where has time gone?????

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 18, 2021, 04:24:21 PM
How would you pair up our Ryder Cup team?

Spieth-JT
Morikawa-Schauffele
DJ-Cantlay
Koepka-?????
Dechambeau-Simpson
?????
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

#145
DJ- Finau
Spieth-JT
Reed-Morikawa
Bryson-Phil.    Seriously
Xander-Cantlay
Koepka-Simpson
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

#146
I know the Bryson/Koepka feud is cute but it doesn't seem to me that the rest of the players get along that well with either of them.  And we know Reed can ruffle some feathers but he's a great R-Cup player.  The question is which pairings would be most effective?  Morikawa and Schauffele seem like guys that can play with anyone.  Finau is a cool dude as well and could probably handle the fake tough guy nonsense of Kopeka or De Charcuterie.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 19, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
I know the Bryson/Koepka feud is cute but it doesn't seem to me that the rest of the players get along that well with either of them.  And we know Reed can ruffle some feathers but he's a great R-Cup player.  The question is which pairings would be most effective?  Morikawa and Schauffele seem like guys that can play with anyone.  Finau is a cool dude as well and could probably handle the fake tough guy nonsense of Kopeka or De Charcuterie.

Is Finau playing good enough to put on the team?
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 19, 2021, 10:20:30 AM
Is Finau playing good enough to put on the team?

I don't know.  I thought he was on the team.  Anyway, I would imagine neither of them would fk with Finau if they had a little tantrum.  :)

cheebs09

Is Brooks that disliked on Tour? I kind of thought he kept to himself but was reasonably well-liked.

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