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duanewade

As mentioned in another thread I grew up down the street from Porter Moser and also went to Benet Academy (a big Marquette feeder school) with him although he was two years older than me. 

It's all good on Porter.  He was a high school stud who was the star of the basketball team who was well built so he never lacked attention from girls or had sand kicked in his face.  However in spite of this he was always a real nice guy who would walk the school halls and always smile and nod to everyone.

He was a very good outside shooter and played defense pretty well too but he wasn't amazingly athletic nor did he really ever create his own shot well so at 6'2+/- it was Creighton as a preferred walk-on I believe.

His grandfather, Harold Moser, was Naperville royalty who was a dynamic entrepreneur who built houses and also owned a lumberyard. 

We both attended Ray Meyer Basketball Camp during the DePaul heyday of the early 1980's when DePaul was always in the top 10 in national rankings before losing the first or second game of every NCAA tournament.  I specifically remember one summer Al McGuire (who was tight with Ray and Joey) came up for a weekend to film a halftime piece for NBC sports to be aired during the season.

The rest of his story we know with his mentee/mentor relationship with Rick Majerus at St. Louis and the success he's had at Loyola.  So obviously very engrained with Midwest Jesuit Universities. 

About two years ago I saw him at a Benet family wake and talked to him some saying how proud we were of him and that I went to Loyola too (for my MBA).  I also told him I went to Marquette undergrad and said I hoped he would strongly consider us if the job opened up... he just laughed and said Wojo would never leave. 

He's now 52+/- so he knows he's not going to be getting too many job offers for major programs going forward as a lot of programs prefer younger coaches who are willing to take on the rigors of recruiting that a lot of older coaches don't care for. 

So Marquette makes an awful lot of sense for both him and us and have no doubt he'd take the job if offered.   

Hards Alumni

Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

warriorfred

Quote from: duanewade on March 20, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
As mentioned in another thread I grew up down the street from Porter Moser and also went to Benet Academy (a big Marquette feeder school) with him although he was two years older than me. 

It's all good on Porter.  He was a high school stud who was the star of the basketball team who was well built so he never lacked attention from girls or had sand kicked in his face.  However in spite of this he was always a real nice guy who would walk the school halls and always smile and nod to everyone.

He was a very good outside shooter and played defense pretty well too but he wasn't amazingly athletic nor did he really ever create his own shot well so at 6'2+/- it was Creighton as a preferred walk-on I believe.

His grandfather, Harold Moser, was Naperville royalty who was a dynamic entrepreneur who built houses and also owned a lumberyard. 

We both attended Ray Meyer Basketball Camp during the DePaul heyday of the early 1980's when DePaul was always in the top 10 in national rankings before losing the first or second game of every NCAA tournament.  I specifically remember one summer Al McGuire (who was tight with Ray and Joey) came up for a weekend to film a halftime piece for NBC sports to be aired during the season.

The rest of his story we know with his mentee/mentor relationship with Rick Majerus at St. Louis and the success he's had at Loyola.  So obviously very engrained with Midwest Jesuit Universities. 

About two years ago I saw him at Benet family wake and talked to him some saying how proud we were of him and that I went to Loyola too (for my MBA).  I also told him I went to Marquette undergrad and said I hoped he would strongly consider us if the job opened up... he just laughed and said Wojo would never leave. 

He's now 52+/- so he knows he's not going to be getting too many job offers for major programs going forward as a lot of programs prefer younger coaches who are willing to take on the rigors of recruiting that a lot of older coaches don't care for. 

So Marquette makes an awful lot of sense for both him and us and have no doubt he'd take the job if offered.

A good story.  It provided additional insight on Moser.  Thank you.

Warrior_2002

Thanks Wade.  Whatever...I think it's a cool story and appreciate it.  Sounds like a very good option and given his experience I think he beats out a number of candidates discussed on this board.

willie warrior

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.
C'mon Man. The guy is just trying to share some personal background on the guy. Nothing wrong with that. And is likely to be appreciated by some who are interested in learning more about a potential candidate.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

Thank you for the crappy comment that no one asked for.

Goose

I heard Moser interviewed on the Score a couple of weeks and would love to have a beer with him and get his take on who he thinks MU should hire.

mujivitz06

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

When's the last time anyone has "asked for" anything on this board?

warriorfred

Quote from: mujivitz06 on March 20, 2021, 01:00:57 PM
When's the last time anyone has "asked for" anything on this board?

I specifically asked for Mbakwe expressions, haikus, and Arby's jokes.

Scoop Snoop

Thanks for writing this. It confirms the impression I have had regarding Porter Moser. He sounds like the type of guy who is willing to learn and not let his ego get in the way of that. There has been a lot of criticism about his coaching record over the past 17 years or so. I think he learned from his mistakes and made the necessary changes. This is exactly what our Dukie Golden Boy could never, ever do.

He has won a lot in recent years. That, to me, is what I think we should be focusing on. Look at Loyola's rankings on defense, their ranking in the top 25 poll. Look at appearances in two tourneys and, even after considering the unusual number of upsets in their region, their appearance in a Final Four.
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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

Wow, now I know who the jerk store will be looking for when they call

GooooMarquette

Appreciate the info on Moser. Sounds like a legitimately decent guy.

He still wouldn't be my #1 choice, but he wouldn't be the worst hire either.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: willie warrior on March 20, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
C'mon Man. The guy is just trying to share some personal background on the guy. Nothing wrong with that. And is likely to be appreciated by some who are interested in learning more about a potential candidate.

He has started like 3 threads about the guy saying the same thing in each.  Let's talk about how the guy is or is not a good coach.

If being a good person has anything to do with who we hire, then we should have kept wojo, right?

willie warrior

Quote from: Goose on March 20, 2021, 01:00:18 PM
I heard Moser interviewed on the Score a couple of weeks and would love to have a beer with him and get his take on who he thinks MU should hire.
What would the beer choice be? Leiney, Pabst, Blatz, Spotted Cow or perhaps an exotic like San Miguel which one can barely find.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Hards Alumni

Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 20, 2021, 12:58:55 PM
Thank you for the crappy comment that no one asked for.

You'd know plenty about that, so all I can say is that, you're welcome!

warriorfred

Crazy stat - Moser's Loyola teams have been in the NCAA's twice and won both opening round games.  So far, those teams are 5-1 in the NCAA's.

JWags85

Quote from: warriorfred on March 20, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
Crazy stat - Moser's Loyola teams have been in the NCAA's twice and won both opening round games.  So far, those teams are 5-1 in the NCAA's.

He's 2-2 in NCAA first round games in a decade of coaching Loyola. Not sure how that's crazy.  It's like people being like "wow, Moser is 3-0 in the NCAAs as a HC" when they won in the S16.  Honestly doesn't reflect super positively

TallTitan34

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

I'm not high on Moser but even I appreciated this story.

warriorfred

Kind of half-joking, it's been so long since Marquette won a NCCA Tournament game that 2 first-round wins seems like wild success.  Also, it represents a sad commentary on the Wojo era.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JWags85 on March 20, 2021, 01:20:47 PM
He's 2-2 in NCAA first round games in a decade of coaching Loyola. Not sure how that's crazy.  It's like people being like "wow, Moser is 3-0 in the NCAAs as a HC" when they won in the S16.  Honestly doesn't reflect super positively

Yeah man, this is what I don't get.  I think a lot of people are talking themselves into Moser because of recency bias.  His lifetime head coaching record is just over .500.  He has been fired from mid majors as well.  Is he having a great couple of years at Loyola?  Of course, but I worry that we might be buying a guy at ATH.

Having said that, I'd be okay with giving him a go.  Not at the top of my list, but acceptable.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2021, 01:31:24 PM
I'm not high on Moser but even I appreciated this story.

Yeah I think it's more about me being cranky lately.  I apologize to OP. 

Farley36

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Thanks for the personal history lesson that no one asked for.

Looks like someone was never loved by his mother.

willie warrior

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 01:07:25 PM
He has started like 3 threads about the guy saying the same thing in each.  Let's talk about how the guy is or is not a good coach.

If being a good person has anything to do with who we hire, then we should have kept wojo, right?
I didn't say anything about a good person.
And since you mentioned the good person angle, are you on board with a Pitino hire who we know can coach  but is likely not areal good person.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

JWags85

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 01:32:45 PM
Yeah man, this is what I don't get.  I think a lot of people are talking themselves into Moser because of recency bias.  His lifetime head coaching record is just over .500.  He has been fired from mid majors as well.  Is he having a great couple of years at Loyola?  Of course, but I worry that we might be buying a guy at ATH.

Having said that, I'd be okay with giving him a go.  Not at the top of my list, but acceptable.

Yep. The buying at ATH is my fear too. People here, even in favor of him, have worried about him recruiting at a high level.  Which is totally fair...but to me that's even worse when you add in his slow methodical style.

Tony Bennett, in 12 years at UVA, has only landed 5 top 50 guys. And only 2 of those were in his first 7 years. And Moser isn't Tony Bennett.

When you win, all is good, but struggling to score 60 points with no top 75 recruits on the horizon is a tough sell if they hire Moser doesn't hit the ground running.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Fun fact, Moser was committed to play at Marquette in 86 but MU pulled his scholly.

That's how he ended up as a walk-on at Creighton.

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