Ben Steele too

[#UnleashSean]

I don't.  Brian Wardle is not a good coach.  Replacing one bad coach with another one is pretty stupid

Strange take as wardle has made every program he's taken over better.

[Uncle Rico]

Strange take as wardle has made every program he's taken over better.

If Brian Wardle graduated from UMass instead of Marquette, no one on scoop would have them anywhere near their list of top candidates.  He's had one winning record in league play in 6 years in the Missouri Valley.  The league isn't nearly as strong as it was a decade ago

[panda]

If Brian Wardle graduated from UMass instead of Marquette, no one on scoop would have them anywhere near their list of top candidates.  He's had one winning record in league play in 6 years in the Missouri Valley.  The league isn't nearly as strong as it was a decade ago

The Marquette connection helps but it doesn't move the needle after the season he had.

To play devils advocate, a career assistant at one school shouldn't ever be mentioned for a big time job like MU. Or earn him seven years of leeway with poor results.

Wardle has done more to prove his worth than Wojo ever did.

[Uncle Rico]

The Marquette connection helps but it doesn't move the needle after the season he had.

To play devils advocate, a career assistant at one school shouldn't ever be mentioned for a big time job like MU. Or earn him seven years of leeway with poor results.

Wardle has done more to prove his worth than Wojo ever did.

I don't have a problem with that argument and it would be my hope the next hire isn't an assistant off a staff

[panda]

I don't have a problem with that argument and it would be my hope the next hire isn't an assistant off a staff

Totally agree. Just playing devils advocate

[Uncle Rico]

Totally agree. Just playing devils advocate

I don't think there's a correct recipe for hiring a coach.  Maybe an assistant would be great.  It worked with Tom Crean but the past decade, the results haven't been great.  Wojo, Chris Collins, Orlando Antigua, Ricky Ray, Mike Hopkins and Danny Manning at Tulsa have been a mixed bag at best (not counting mid-majors).

My preference would be a proven mid-major winner barring the unicorn hire

[willie warrior]

The Marquette connection helps but it doesn't move the needle after the season he had.

To play devils advocate, a career assistant at one school shouldn't ever be mentioned for a big time job like MU. Or earn him seven years of leeway with poor results.

Wardle has done more to prove his worth than Wojo ever did.

Well MU did not do too bad with career assistants(at the time of hire) with O'Neil and Crean, but it is a good point. Wardle would likely do a lot better if he had the resources that Wojo-Dukiet has had. But the school should do a thorough search. Question is: Do they have the gonads?

[panda]

Well MU did not do too bad with career assistants(at the time of hire) with O'Neil and Crean, but it is a good point. Wardle would likely do a lot better if he had the resources that Wojo-Dukiet has had. But the school should do a thorough search. Question is: Do they have the gonads?

Short answer - No.

[bilsu]

Well MU did not do too bad with career assistants(at the time of hire) with O'Neil and Crean, but it is a good point. Wardle would likely do a lot better if he had the resources that Wojo-Dukiet has had. But the school should do a thorough search. Question is: Do they have the gonads?

It is all about recruiting and I really doubt Wardle can recruit at the level needed to be competitive in the Big East.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Why in the world would Wojo do that?

Because a coach that breaks the rules and wins will always get hired before a coach that loses, and Wojo, today, has that stigma.  Casual fans now associate him with losing.

He would accept a lower buyout, in theory - say $4 million - to live to fight another day.  If he comes back again and loses next year, he will be hard pressed to find another high major to major job in the country.

[willie warrior]

It is all about recruiting and I really doubt Wardle can recruit at the level needed to be competitive in the Big East.

How has tht worked out for Wojo-Dukiet?

[Pakuni]

Well MU did not do too bad with career assistants(at the time of hire) with O'Neil and Crean, but it is a good point. Wardle would likely do a lot better if he had the resources that Wojo-Dukiet has had. But the school should do a thorough search. Question is: Do they have the gonads?

Bradley's Missouri Valley finishes under Wardle:
9th
6th
5th
3rd
8th
Cumulative record: 41-52.
I mean, if we want to dump Wojo for a sub-.500 Big East record, does it make sense to replace him with a guy that has one season above .500 in the Valley?

[naginiF]

Bradley's Missouri Valley finishes under Wardle:
9th
6th
5th
3rd
8th
Cumulative record: 41-52.
I mean, if we want to dump Wojo for a sub-.500 Big East record, does it make sense to replace him with a guy that has one season above .500 in the Valley?

I think if he had the resources available to him that Marquette does he'd be well above .500 in the Missouri Valley

[Uncle Rico]

I think if he had the resources available to him that Marquette does he'd be well above .500 in the Missouri Valley

Good coaches don't need excuses.  They find a way to win.  Overcoming adversity and obstacles ought to be prioritized not dismissed based on "well, he lacked resources".

[naginiF]

Good coaches don't need excuses.  They find a way to win.  Overcoming adversity and obstacles ought to be prioritized not dismissed based on "well, he lacked resources".

I was being facetious. 

[Uncle Rico]

I was being facetious.

My apologies

[Knight Commission]

Wait did someone make a fire wojo billboard?

nm

[brewcity77]

Bradley's Missouri Valley finishes under Wardle:
9th
6th
5th
3rd
8th
Cumulative record: 41-52.
I mean, if we want to dump Wojo for a sub-.500 Big East record, does it make sense to replace him with a guy that has one season above .500 in the Valley?

9/6/5/3 with a couple tournament titles looked good coming into this year. This year, far less enticing. I like the idea of Wardle being there if we really need him, but he's not at the top of my lists.

[Pakuni]

9/6/5/3 with a couple tournament titles looked good coming into this year. This year, far less enticing. I like the idea of Wardle being there if we really need him, but he's not at the top of my lists.

Wardle inherited a mess, so a mulligan on his first season is fair.
After that, third place is his best finish over five seasons in a mid-major conference. We want to fire a coach for better results than he's produced in the Valley
Good for him they got hot and won their tourney, but that's a terrible way to analyze a coach vs full season results.
And on top of all that, he's a twat.

[JWags85]

Well MU did not do too bad with career assistants(at the time of hire) with O'Neil and Crean, but it is a good point. Wardle would likely do a lot better if he had the resources that Wojo-Dukiet has had. But the school should do a thorough search. Question is: Do they have the gonads?

To be fair, KO had been a HC multiple times. 10 years into his career when he came to Marquette, half had been as a HC at HS, CC, and NAIA level before being a D1 assistant pushed him into overdrive

[Viper]

To be fair, KO had been a HC multiple times. 10 years into his career when he came to Marquette, half had been as a HC at HS, CC, and NAIA level before being a D1 assistant pushed him into overdrive

MU needed to pay KO. They offered him sh!t after he took a train wreck to the S16. Could have avoided the sunglassed weirdo altogether and probably reached a E8 or F4. Oh well, what comes around goes around. btw, both KO and Deane were hilarious at the 100yrs party. Actually, Wojo was ok too.

[willie warrior]

Good coaches don't need excuses.  They find a way to win.  Overcoming adversity and obstacles ought to be prioritized not dismissed based on "well, he lacked resources".

Then why have you been offering excuses for Wojo-Dukiet? Guess maybe because he is not a good coach.

[Uncle Rico]

Then why have you been offering excuses for Wojo-Dukiet? Guess maybe because he is not a good coach.

I said he should go.  Wardle has been at Bradley for 6 years.  He's had one winning year.  He inherited a mess but has plateaued.  That's not a guy that's going to come to Marquette and do any better.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Note to Administration
How about predicating buyouts on performance? The better you did the higher the severance?
Time to be prudent with MU funds

[Hards Alumni]

Note to Administration
How about predicating buyouts on performance? The better you did the higher the severance?
Time to be prudent with MU funds

You don't understand how buyouts work.