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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 18, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
Who cares if it looks low rent?  As many people putting pressure on the admin, from as many different places as possible, is a good thing.  Let's keep making noise.  As fans, it's all we can do.

Quality implies that it isn't just a couple of kooks that were bored on a Wednesday afternoon sixteen beers into a case.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 18, 2021, 01:45:31 PM
Quality implies that it isn't just a couple of kooks that were bored on a Wednesday afternoon sixteen beers into a case.

Freeway still around? The quality would suggest he was a part of this.

WHAT do you think about WOJOOOH?
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Silent Verbal

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 18, 2021, 01:45:31 PM
Quality implies that it isn't just a couple of kooks that were bored on a Wednesday afternoon sixteen beers into a case.

It's also better than nothing, and if the rumors on here are to be believed, it was students who did it, so the low quality is understandable.

From Scholl's statement in the CS article, I get the strong sense that the administration was simply not going to address anything if the fans didn't make noise.  They seem to be caught pretty off guard by all this.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2021, 01:50:20 PM
Freeway still around? The quality would suggest he was a part of this.

WHAT do you think about WOJOOOH?

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF CINCINNATI?

WHO WAS MOST UPSET WITH THE LOSS TO LOUISVILLE?

"uhhh Steve Novak?"

BESIDES HIM

"uhhhhhh Scott Merrit?"

BESIDES HIM

"uhhhh I don't know man, Tom Crean?"

BESIDES HIM

"Just tell me"

TRAVIS DIENER

"okay"

The Sultan

It's a waste of money.  And its not going to force "the administration" to do anything.

The decision has been made and isn't going to be reversed by a couple dumb billboards.  It's not even going to be reversed by a well written blog post.  It will only be reversed by people with money and leverage.  And this aint leverage.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Lens

I'm of the camp that the more the better.

Well reasoned argument from 3 top blogs citing nothing but facts - CHECK
Endless barbs from a twitter account who is probably jealous of Wojo's pedigree - CHECK
Slightly hot take article from MJS beat writer - CHECK
Tacky truck billboard - CHECK
Conversation within the CBB twitterverse - CHECK

Everyone gets influenced differently so all these messages no matter how "juvenile" or how well constructed work towards the same goal. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

MuggsyB

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 18, 2021, 02:03:14 PM
It's a waste of money.  And its not going to force "the administration" to do anything.

The decision has been made and isn't going to be reversed by a couple dumb billboards.  It's not even going to be reversed by a well written blog post.  It will only be reversed by people with money and leverage.  And this aint leverage.

Well none of then are Fluffy Blue Monsters.  Do something!!  Attack. 

Silent Verbal

Quote from: The Lens on March 18, 2021, 02:07:50 PM
I'm of the camp that the more the better.

Well reasoned argument from 3 top blogs citing nothing but facts - CHECK
Endless barbs from a twitter account who is probably jealous of Wojo's pedigree - CHECK
Slightly hot take article from MJS beat writer - CHECK
Tacky truck billboard - CHECK
Conversation within the CBB twitterverse - CHECK

Everyone gets influenced differently so all these messages no matter how "juvenile" or how well constructed work towards the same goal.

What was the gist of Steele's article, for those who don't subscribe to the MJS?

The Lens

Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 18, 2021, 02:12:32 PM
What was the gist of Steele's article, for those who don't subscribe to the MJS?

He addressed 3 questions

Should MU fire Wojo?
Should Wojo change his style?
Could more help fix this?

It was a very soft article but Ben has to "work with" Wojo everyday so I wouldn't expect a beat writer to come down as hard as say a columnist would.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Silent Verbal

Quote from: The Lens on March 18, 2021, 02:19:40 PM
He addressed 3 questions

Should MU fire Wojo?
Should Wojo change his style?
Could more help fix this?

It was a very soft article but Ben has to "work with" Wojo everyday so I wouldn't expect a beat writer to come down as hard as say a columnist would.

What did he say in regards to the "fire Wojo" question?  I do understand Steele's position.  Wish he wasn't the most visible media presence for MU, at least not for stuff like this.


Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 18, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
What did he say in regards to the "fire Wojo" question?  I do understand Steele's position.  Wish he wasn't the most visible media presence for MU, at least not for stuff like this.
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The coach?

The most immediate change a program can make is with its head coach.

Wojciechowski's seven-season record is underwhelming. Both of MU's NCAA Tournament losses in his tenure were blowouts: vs. South Carolina in 2017 and Murray State in 2019. Wojciechowski is also 4-6 in the Big East tournament, never advancing to the championship game.

Wojciechowski is 59-68 in the Big East, including 16-21 over the last two seasons. Most worrying for MU fans are the late-season slides, including losing six of seven games to end the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons. Four straight losses to end the regular season in 2018-19 cost the Golden Eagles a Big East championship.

MU gave Wojciechowski a new contract after the 2018-19 season that runs through 2023-24. Buyout terms have not been made public, but any significant cost could be tough to stomach for a university that is navigating financial issues.
If Wojciechowski is on the sideline next season, he almost certainly will be on any list of coaching names on the "hot seat."

rocky_warrior

I appreciate the passion.  I really do.  But just like riots in Kenosha didn't affect the police and storming the capitol didn't change the election, a billboard and blogs aren't going to change the Wojo's job status.

They can be point of discussion, but in the end Wojo has to win next year to get fans back on his side.  And for those that say "that wouldn't be enough!" - yes it would.  Will he do it, we'll see.

cheebs09


pacearrow02

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2021, 02:27:51 PM
I appreciate the passion.  I really do.  But just like riots in Kenosha didn't affect the police and storming the capitol didn't change the election, a billboard and blogs aren't going to change the Wojo's job status.

They can be point of discussion, but in the end Wojo has to win next year to get fans back on his side.  And for those that say "that wouldn't be enough!" - yes it would.  Will he do it, we'll see.

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MU82

Quote from: JimsTimeOutFan on March 18, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
wow. this story has wheels...


perhaps we should get this thread shut down like the previous one was for the good of the program!

Unlike the "Lewis is gone" post, the billboard is something immediately provable because it exists.

Besides, the information in that thread was simply moved to another thread.

So stop being a drama queen.

Now run along and change your name again before the mods catch on.

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Jables1604

Quote from: BigWilly77 on March 18, 2021, 01:06:09 PM
My nephew who is a sophomore said that he heard Delta Chi put up the money for it.
Does he wear a pledge pin?!?

On his uniforrrrrrrrmmmm?

Jables1604

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 18, 2021, 01:50:20 PM
Freeway still around? The quality would suggest he was a part of this.

WHAT do you think about WOJOOOH?

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GooooMarquette

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2021, 02:08:37 PM
Well none of then are Fluffy Blue Monsters.  Do something!!  Attack.


I laughed. Well done, Muggsy.

NolongerWarriors

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Good for the students who did this.  Won't change Lovell's mind but so what?

Just glad to see some on campus are concerned about the direction of MU bball.

Almost would go to a game next season just to hear the boos Wojo gets

Would not be surprised at all for Lovell to come out publicly in support of Wojo, which will only serve to alienate the fanbase even more

GooooMarquette


Silent Verbal

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 18, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Would not be surprised at all for Lovell to come out publicly in support of Wojo, which will only serve to alienate the fanbase even more

Yep, I can feel it coming.  And it'll go over like a lead balloon.

cheebs09

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 18, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Good for the students who did this.  Won't change Lovell's mind but so what?

Just glad to see some on campus are concerned about the direction of MU bball.

Almost would go to a game next season just to hear the boos Wojo gets

Would not be surprised at all for Lovell to come out publicly in support of Wojo, which will only serve to alienate the fanbase even more

If an extension is coming, I wonder if it's announced tomorrow. Bury it on a Friday with the NCAA tourney. Or else it'll be a random day in the summer I bet.

tower912

I think Wojo was coming back anyway.

I think admin was unaware of the level of animus.

I think the article and billboard are going to cause Wojo, Scholl, and Lovell to dig their heels in.

I expect a declaration of support in order to reassure recruits and to assist on landing transfers.

If they had fired him, fine.   

But they are going to feel they can't now.  I think they are going to feel painted into a corner and won't want to appear bullied.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2021, 03:35:48 PM
But they are going to feel they can't now.  I think they are going to feel painted into a corner and won't want to appear bullied.


Yup.

Again, the only way a change is made now is if the people with money or leverage want it to happen and are willing to pay and push for it to happen.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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