The Wojo Question

[Stretchdeltsig]

Buyout is more than double $2.5M.

Where are all these WOJO Defenders? If Scoop still has a half-dozen of them, I couldn't name them.

Thank goodness we have another thread to join the previous 533 "fire Wojo" threads.

Make sure you get your Arby's Corned Beef Reuben for St. Paddy's.

Who writes up such a terrible contract with a double buyout clause? We need smarter negotiators. No wonder the program's in the dumpsters. Were doomed to fail and can't climb out.

[NWarsh]

Wojo is back, Norlander confirmed...


https://twitter.com/joemccann3/status/1370177581836800001?s=21

[tower912]

Alrighty then.    We know what the primary topic of conversation will be for the next year.   

[NWarsh]

Alrighty then.    We know what the primary topic of conversation will be for the next year.

Yay....

[tower912]

I think the problem is that there simply haven't been enough different threads started to really get the administration's attention.    Slackers.   More 'fire wojo' threads!

[Boozemon Barro]

Unfückingbelievable.

[dgies9156]

Here is the deal: If Coach Wojo comes back next year, the university must put a gun to his hid (figuratively and perhaps literally) and ask how things will be different. At issue is how the team will be different, how the program will be different and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how the wins and losses will be different. There must be a clear commitment to a change and Wojo as well as the athletic department has to sell it.

I have my doubts Wojo can do it, much less sell it to the public. If he stays on, Wojo has a HUGE sales job this spring and summer. I'm not sure he has it in him.

The fact is, as other commentators have noted, basketball isn't the reason most folks decide on Marquette, but it builds interest in the school. In our heyday, the perception was that if basketball was THAT good, then the rest of the university must be pretty good as well. We need a stronger basketball program now more than ever.

[panda]

Here is the deal: If Coach Wojo comes back next year, the university must put a gun to his hid (figuratively and perhaps literally) and ask how things will be different. At issue is how the team will be different, how the program will be different and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how the wins and losses will be different. There must be a clear commitment to a change and Wojo as well as the athletic department has to sell it.

I have my doubts Wojo can do it, much less sell it to the public. If he stays on, Wojo has a HUGE sales job this spring and summer. I'm not sure he has it in him.

The fact is, as other commentators have noted, basketball isn't the reason most folks decide on Marquette, but it builds interest in the school. In our heyday, the perception was that if basketball was THAT good, then the rest of the university must be pretty good as well. We need a stronger basketball program now more than ever.

This ☝️

[Johnny B]

Here is the deal: If Coach Wojo comes back next year, the university must put a gun to his hid (figuratively and perhaps literally) and ask how things will be different. At issue is how the team will be different, how the program will be different and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how the wins and losses will be different. There must be a clear commitment to a change and Wojo as well as the athletic department has to sell it.

I have my doubts Wojo can do it, much less sell it to the public. If he stays on, Wojo has a HUGE sales job this spring and summer. I'm not sure he has it in him.

The fact is, as other commentators have noted, basketball isn't the reason most folks decide on Marquette, but it builds interest in the school. In our heyday, the perception was that if basketball was THAT good, then the rest of the university must be pretty good as well. We need a stronger basketball program now more than ever.

they dont fricken care get it threw ur head. he runs a clean program and puts a bubble team on the court somtimes. thats all that matters. he will be here as long as he wants

[The Sultan]

they dont fricken care get it threw ur head. he runs a clean program and puts a bubble team on the court somtimes. thats all that matters. he will be here as long as he wants

No that is something I don't think is accurate.  If next year is like this year, he will be gone.

[Hards Alumni]

No that is something I don't think is accurate.  If next year is like this year, he will be gone.

Yup, all we can hope for between now and summer is that someone lures him away.

fwiw, he should absolutely be fielding those phone calls.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

No that is something I don't think is accurate.  If next year is like this year, he will be gone.

Only because the facade of potential success will be so tainted at that point they won't have a choice.   

The admin valued a other items over on court success. 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Wojo is back, Norlander confirmed...


https://twitter.com/joemccann3/status/1370177581836800001?s=21

Maybe I'm ignorant but why is Norlander's word on the matter gospel?

[Silent Verbal]

I think the problem is that there simply haven't been enough different threads started to really get the administration's attention.    Slackers.   More 'fire wojo' threads!

Think about it:  All off-season long, people will be talking about how much Wojo sucks, and how he shouldn't be our coach anymore.  And they'll be spot on, because he does suck, and he shouldn't be our coach anymore.  And if there are posters who don't like it, they can simply stop posting on Scoop, or even stop visiting all together.  They can easily avoid looking at "fire Wojo" threads, that's for sure.

[Boozemon Barro]

Maybe I'm ignorant but why is Norlander's word on the matter gospel?

If wojo was going to be fired, what's the holdup? I mean I guess the people responsible for making that decision have proven to be completely incompetent, but still it makes no sense to delay the announcement if he's going to get fired.

[Uncle Rico]

Maybe I'm ignorant but why is Norlander's word on the matter gospel?

It isn't, he's just reporting what he has heard from his sources.  Things can change quickly as we know. 

[The Sultan]

Only because the facade of potential success will be so tainted at that point they won't have a choice.   

The admin valued a other items over on court success. 

???

There was no way Marquette was going to fire Wojo coming off two straight tournament births - and three in four years.  (And yes they would have been in the tournament last year.)  I could probably count the number of programs who would have fired their head coach with a similar record on one hand.

[the eagle]

Wojo is back, Norlander confirmed...


https://twitter.com/joemccann3/status/1370177581836800001?s=21

Bummer - I was hoping for a Spring full of Flightaware updates

[Dr. Blackheart]

Should we all take Bad Reporter up on his $1000 bet?  I need a stimulus check.

[The Sultan]

Should we all take Bad Reporter up on his $1000 bet?  I need a stimulus check.

Oh he hedged on that right after he made the statement.

[tower912]

Think about it:  All off-season long, people will be talking about how much Wojo sucks, and how he shouldn't be our coach anymore.  And they'll be spot on, because he does suck, and he shouldn't be our coach anymore.  And if there are posters who don't like it, they can simply stop posting on Scoop, or even stop visiting all together.  They can easily avoid looking at "fire Wojo" threads, that's for sure.

Awesome.   Mostly agree.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Oh he hedged on that right after he made the statement.

I don't know. His last post was pretty definitive. I smell easy money. I hope Without took him up on his offer.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61607.msg1320156#msg1320156

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

???

There was no way Marquette was going to fire Wojo coming off two straight tournament births - and three in four years.  (And yes they would have been in the tournament last year.)  I could probably count the number of programs who would have fired their head coach with a similar record on one hand.

I don't know why you chose to put words in my mouth if I was unclear, because I didn't say any of the things you wrote.

They went all-in in the summer of 2019 extension.  There was smoke that they chose to ignore and at the  press conferences highlighted the items that they valued.  The famous three legged stool was introduced by our AD.  As we sit here today that was a huge mistake in hindsight.  Now they are stuck and as many pointed out - there are few scenarios that result in Wojo being our coach 2 years from today, even if we end up being good next year.

[The Sultan]

I don't know why you chose to put words in my mouth if I was unclear, because I didn't say any of the things you wrote.

They went all-in in the summer of 2019 extension.  There was smoke that they chose to ignore and at the  press conferences highlighted the items that they valued.  The famous three legged stool was introduced by our AD.  As we sit here today that was a huge mistake in hindsight.  Now they are stuck and as many pointed out - there are few scenarios that result in Wojo being our coach 2 years from today, even if we end up being good next year.

Yeah the extension was a mistake.  But that doesn't mean they valued other things than on court success.  It just means they had too much faith in the guy to produce that success.

[Avenue Commons]

Comes off as a prick in some interviews and post games, too.  A lot of it is his image, IMO.  He's a pretty boy, so he's automatically a greet ambassador for MU.

I can tell you first hand that Wojo is sincerely a good guy and cares deeply about his players. That should not be in dispute.

People can have opinions about his coaching success, but his intentions and commitment are not at issue at all.