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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1325 on: April 09, 2021, 05:46:30 PM »
Wojo was clearly calling for a foul, and Bailey was hesitant in doing so.  Bailey eventually did foul, against his better instincts, and then demanded to know why he was being screamed at to foul.  Wojo’s answer was “there was confusion on the bench”.

If I recall Koby hit a shot at the buzzer to send the game to overtime, making the point moot.  But, still an embarrassing lack of awareness by a head coach.



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« Reply #1326 on: April 09, 2021, 09:58:58 PM »
Wojo was clearly calling for a foul, and Bailey was hesitant in doing so.  Bailey eventually did foul, against his better instincts, and then demanded to know why he was being screamed at to foul.  Wojo’s answer was “there was confusion on the bench”.

If I recall Koby hit a shot at the buzzer to send the game to overtime, making the point moot.  But, still an embarrassing lack of awareness by a head coach.

Yup, that was 100% wojo's call from the bench.

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« Reply #1327 on: April 09, 2021, 10:04:22 PM »
It was the right call, wrong guy to foul.

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« Reply #1328 on: April 09, 2021, 10:23:09 PM »
Maybe I am wrong, but I still believe Wojo was just taking the blame for Bailey not understanding what Wojo wanted him to do. This is no different than Wojo not agreeing to fire his assistant's. Whether you like Wojo or not, I do not think you can find an instance where he ever put the blame on his players or assistant coaches.

Wojo didn’t want to retain his assistants out of some sense of loyalty.  He wanted them back because he was a stubborn a$$hole and knew he had a $9 million buyout in his back pocket if the admin didn’t like it.

He didn’t save anybody’s job.  None of his assistants work at Marquette anymore.

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« Reply #1329 on: April 09, 2021, 10:38:41 PM »
It was the right call, wrong guy to foul.

He's gone, there's no reason to excuse his mistakes. You don't send a shooter to the line, any shooter, in a tie game with seconds left to play. That's the surest way to move your win probability into the negative. Wojo made a clear mistake, was bailed out by a miracle from Koby after they had to foul a second time, and lost anyway in overtime.
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« Reply #1330 on: April 09, 2021, 10:55:01 PM »

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« Reply #1331 on: April 10, 2021, 12:10:16 AM »

He didn’t save anybody’s job.  None of his assistants work at Marquette anymore.

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« Reply #1332 on: April 10, 2021, 01:24:23 AM »
Wojo loved this job, his players, & the university. I don't see why it's hard to understand why he'd still be coming to terms with everything & figuring out next steps in his overall life. He worked his arse off & the job consumed, very likely, 70, 80, 90+ hours/week for years.

Himself aside, he has a family that he moved across the country.

That he doesn't have a job 3 weeks later is not some kind of obvious sign of anything... Any of you guys ever wish you devoted more time to your kids? Would you have done so, perhaps, if you had less of a concern with money? ::)

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« Reply #1333 on: April 10, 2021, 07:15:37 AM »
Maybe I am wrong, but I still believe Wojo was just taking the blame for Bailey not understanding what Wojo wanted him to do. This is no different than Wojo not agreeing to fire his assistant's. Whether you like Wojo or not, I do not think you can find an instance where he ever put the blame on his players or assistant coaches.

Nope. Wojo didn’t know the score. With under 10 seconds left in the game. To his credit he admitted what was clear to anyone watching - but wtf? How can that happen? It was the final three nails in the coffin for me.

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« Reply #1334 on: April 10, 2021, 08:32:23 AM »
Nope. Wojo didn’t know the score. With under 10 seconds left in the game. To his credit he admitted what was clear to anyone watching - but wtf? How can that happen? It was the final three nails in the coffin for me.

Yessir, Tony, you were right then and you're right now. It was embarrassingly poor coaching, and even honest ProJos said so at the time.

And I swear, I think it was the next game, he was telling the guys to foul with us up 4. Our player (Cain?) tried to foul but the ref didn't call it, thankfully, saving Wojo yet another humiliating moment.

My "final nail" didn't come until the DePaul loss this past season, but now I realize I had been too patient. Not that any impatience from me or any other Scooper would have made a difference, but I wouldn't have wasted energy defending him if I had gone NoJo sooner.

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« Reply #1335 on: April 10, 2021, 08:45:21 AM »
It’s crazy people are still trying to defend him forgetting the score and game situation.

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« Reply #1336 on: April 10, 2021, 08:48:14 AM »
Wojo loved this job, his players, & the university. I don't see why it's hard to understand why he'd still be coming to terms with everything & figuring out next steps in his overall life. He worked his arse off & the job consumed, very likely, 70, 80, 90+ hours/week for years.

Himself aside, he has a family that he moved across the country.

That he doesn't have a job 3 weeks later is not some kind of obvious sign of anything... Any of you guys ever wish you devoted more time to your kids? Would you have done so, perhaps, if you had less of a concern with money? ::)

Amen to this. The guy was a basketball coach. He was clearly a good dude. He tried very hard. It didn't work out. No idea why folks are so invested in crapping on him. How hard is to wish a guy well?

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« Reply #1337 on: April 10, 2021, 09:16:06 AM »
It was the right call, wrong guy to foul.


Uhhh, no. Wrong. Incorrect. No go. Denied.

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« Reply #1339 on: April 10, 2021, 10:24:49 AM »
I was at the MU - Butler game about 15 rows up directly across from the MU bench. My initial reaction was - What the hell is Wojo doing here?
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« Reply #1340 on: April 10, 2021, 10:33:42 AM »
Nope. Wojo didn’t know the score. With under 10 seconds left in the game. To his credit he admitted what was clear to anyone watching - but wtf? How can that happen? It was the final three nails in the coffin for me.

It was actually 19 seconds left when Bailey fouled, but the shot clock was turned off. Tie game, Baldwin went to the line and split a pair. Howard missed a potential game-winning three, MU fouled Baldwin again with 8 seconds left (that was the under 10 seconds, but correct to give foul) and he put Butler up 3, then McEwen hit the game winner at the buzzer.

Not that it matters much, it was a dumb decision regardless, but clearly a mistake on Wojo's part because he didn't know the score.
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« Reply #1341 on: April 10, 2021, 11:12:54 AM »
Wojo loved this job, his players, & the university. I don't see why it's hard to understand why he'd still be coming to terms with everything & figuring out next steps in his overall life. He worked his arse off & the job consumed, very likely, 70, 80, 90+ hours/week for years.

Himself aside, he has a family that he moved across the country.

That he doesn't have a job 3 weeks later is not some kind of obvious sign of anything... Any of you guys ever wish you devoted more time to your kids? Would you have done so, perhaps, if you had less of a concern with money? ::)

How much money did MU pay Wojo in the totality of his 7 year tenure at MU including his buyout?

Why did Wojo proactively seek out and willingly accept the job at MU if the hours required to work were so problematic to him?  Also, why didn’t Wojo leave MU on his own accord if the job was such a burden?

I wish Wojo the best in his future endeavors, but the narrative that he’s a victim is perplexing.  Wojo was paid extremely well at MU and was given great resources and support.

Wojo underperformed at MU, and the administration decided to move in a different direction.

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« Reply #1342 on: April 10, 2021, 11:36:52 AM »
It was the right call, wrong guy to foul.

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« Reply #1343 on: April 10, 2021, 12:05:02 PM »
Seriously? He had a good year last year and a rough year this year. They have to be thinking of a particular person right? Because that seems like a crazy short leash.

Rothstein with a nice editorial ripping Cincy.

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« Reply #1344 on: April 10, 2021, 12:08:56 PM »
Wojo didn’t want to retain his assistants out of some sense of loyalty.  He wanted them back because he was a stubborn a$$hole and knew he had a $9 million buyout in his back pocket if the admin didn’t like it.

He didn’t save anybody’s job.  None of his assistants work at Marquette anymore.
A lot of fans wanted Wojo gone and were very vocal about it. Firing his assistants might of given him one more year, but with all the fans hating him he was smart to say no. Why go through another year of torment with fans hating you.

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« Reply #1345 on: April 10, 2021, 12:13:59 PM »
Wojo loved this job, his players, & the university. I don't see why it's hard to understand why he'd still be coming to terms with everything & figuring out next steps in his overall life. He worked his arse off & the job consumed, very likely, 70, 80, 90+ hours/week for years.

Himself aside, he has a family that he moved across the country.

That he doesn't have a job 3 weeks later is not some kind of obvious sign of anything... Any of you guys ever wish you devoted more time to your kids? Would you have done so, perhaps, if you had less of a concern with money? ::)

The reason he needs to "come to terms" with being fired is because he did not "come to terms" with having failed. The reported 9 million he received should help tide him over while figuring out the next steps in his overall life. Anybody here who got 9 mil heading after being fired? I'm not saying that personal attacks are in any way justified but criticisms of his tenure are. He's entitled to respect as a person but not sympathy for the consequences of his failures.
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« Reply #1346 on: April 10, 2021, 12:25:16 PM »
Next season would have been brutal with Woj still here, unless he had a stellar season and won a couple games in the Tourney. Plus, ticket sales, at least at first, would have plummeted. As I've said before, MU couldn't afford to keep him around. In this case, change is good. Keep hope alive, hey?
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« Reply #1347 on: April 10, 2021, 12:52:56 PM »
Next season would have been brutal with Woj still here, unless he had a stellar season and won a couple games in the Tourney. Plus, ticket sales, at least at first, would have plummeted. As I've said before, MU couldn't afford to keep him around. In this case, change is good. Keep hope alive, hey?

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« Reply #1348 on: April 10, 2021, 01:48:49 PM »
In the words of John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.



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« Reply #1349 on: April 10, 2021, 02:02:08 PM »


Any reference to John McEnroe in a college hoops thread is worthy of a 🤙

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