Projo nojo

[The Sultan]

I echo these concerns, especially the second one.

I will be 100% behind whomever we hire, just as I have been behind Wojo, but it is a big leap from UWGB/Bradley to recruit at the level that Scoopers expect from our coach. And just saying, "Eh, he'll hire assistants who can consistently get top 30-100 players," seems extremely optimistic.

I will say this, moving from the MVC to the Big East is the same type of move that Dan Hurley made going from the A10 at URI to UConn, and is less of a leap than Ed Cooley made going from Fairfield to Providence or Jay Wright made from Hofstra to Villanova.

So I think it can be done, but Cooley seems to have topped out at a level just above Wojo but below a championship level, and the jury is still out on Hurley. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I will say this, moving from the MVC to the Big East is the same type of move that Dan Hurley made going from the A10 at URI to UConn, and is less of a leap than Ed Cooley made going from Fairfield to Providence or Jay Wright made from Hofstra to Villanova.

So I think it can be done, but Cooley seems to have topped out at a level just above Wojo but below a championship level, and the jury is still out on Hurley.

In all of those instances, recruiting hasn't been a problem. 

[shoothoops]

I have two concerns with Wardle.

First, his temper got him into big trouble at UWGB, which despite the statement that it was just a bunch of soft kids whose parents were overly involved, was a more serious problem than some were lead to believe.  It also got him into trouble at Bradley but not nearly to the same extent.  That's a problem that can be dealt with IMO.

Second, he really doesn't recruit at a high level.  And at mid-majors, that can work if you are a really good coach.  But will he be able to step up his recruiting?  Is he a good enough coach if he can't?

I would agree with this. I would be okay with his name in a large list of initial candidates. But that is as far as I would go at this time. And personality/temperament would perhaps put him at an initial disadvantage.

Recruiting is a huge part of the game. Staff would be very important. Style of play etc...

And while improving GB and Bradley, he still has had only one winning record in The Valley, and one top four finish.

[brewcity77]

I have two concerns with Wardle.

First, his temper got him into big trouble at UWGB, which despite the statement that it was just a bunch of soft kids whose parents were overly involved, was a more serious problem than some were lead to believe.  It also got him into trouble at Bradley but not nearly to the same extent.  That's a problem that can be dealt with IMO.

Second, he really doesn't recruit at a high level.  And at mid-majors, that can work if you are a really good coach.  But will he be able to step up his recruiting?  Is he a good enough coach if he can't?

I share those concerns. I agree that PR concerns can be addressed, and think a strong PR hand like Scott Kuykendall would help in that regard.

From a recruiting perspective, I think the program and assistants will help in that regard, and frankly we've seen programs like Wisconsin prove that it's more important to get guys that fit the system than just the stars next to their names. He's found guys like Elijah Childs, Darrell Brown, and Keifer Sykes to make his system go, and unearthed Alec Brown & got him drafted to the NBA.

I also think the impending immediate eligibility would help a coach looking to find their footing in a high major. Though I would guess we'll have another 1.5 years of Wojo regardless to evaluate options.

[wadesworld]

The only way there is a coaching change after this season is if John Beilein or Thad Matta are dialing up Scholl.  AKA Wojo will be our coach next year.

[Shooter McGavin]

I would be on board with Wardle now. I wouldn't have been when our job was last open. He has shown the ability to build two programs, has won conference titles (GB) and conference tourney titles (Bradley). He has won at different tempos.

But more than anything, Wardle has spent his career working to build a resume to put him in position to take THIS job. Wardle's time at Green Bay, his time at Bradley, all of that is to make him worth hiring for Marquette. No one out there has worked harder to get the Marquette job specifically, no one would value it more, and no one realistic will have a markedly better resume. There may be candidates like TJO or others that can be about on par, but we know Wardle's passion and we know he can build a program.

It isn't an obvious home run hire, but it would be the most proven head coaching hire made by Marquette certainly in my lifetime. I would say the most proven hire since Eddie Hickey in 1958.

Brew,  has Wardle said the MU job is the job he is gunning for?   

[Silent Verbal]

The only way there is a coaching change after this season is if John Beilein or Thad Matta are dialing up Scholl.  AKA Wojo will be our coach next year.

I'd forgotten about Beilein.  If he wasn't 67, he'd be a damn good option.  If he chooses to coach again, he probably wouldn't work more than five years before retiring for good.

[vogue65]

Why doesn't Northwestern, Notre Dame, or West Virginia change their coach every few years?
Could it he because they win so many championships?

[GooooMarquette]

Weave all ready had won total loser, van driver from St. Peter's, aina?

Can Shaheen play the piano?

[brewcity77]

Brew,  has Wardle said the MU job is the job he is gunning for?

Publicly, no, but no coach will ever say "this job I have is fine, but what I really want is...." I've heard enough behind the scenes to strongly lead me to believe that he wanted it when it was last open & his move to Bradley was in part because the UWGB resume wasn't enough. I have no doubt he'd be first in line to interview if MU came open.

[Shooter McGavin]

Publicly, no, but no coach will ever say "this job I have is fine, but what I really want is...." I've heard enough behind the scenes to strongly lead me to believe that he wanted it when it was last open & his move to Bradley was in part because the UWGB resume wasn't enough. I have no doubt he'd be first in line to interview if MU came open.

Gotcha,  thanks.  I appreciate your insight.

[🏀]

Bump. Leave him in DC, close to home.

[cheese ball chaser]

Meanwhile, Shaka Smart just blew out Kansas and has Texas as the #6 Kenpom team.

[jesmu84]

Meanwhile, Shaka looks good at UT.

*ducks*

[muwarrior97]

I will admit I downloaded the Fire Wojo paperwork after the Nova game, I'm thinking I have some time during this 2nd half to fill it out.....this game is the worst I've seen from MUBB in many years #Painful

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I will admit I downloaded the Fire Wojo paperwork after the Nova game, I'm thinking I have some time during this 2nd half to fill it out.....this game is the worst I've seen from MUBB in many years #Painful

Paperwork?

[NoLongerWarrior]

Firing wojo isn't enough anymore. I want some measure of revenge for what he has done to our program.

[5DollarPitcher]

Firing wojo isn't enough anymore. I want some measure of revenge for what he has done to our program.

We could try to sue him for malpractice. After Buzz we needed an appendix removal but Wojo performed a lobotomy.

[PointWarrior]

Wow they blow, they are actually getting worse each game.   They may not actually win another game this season.

[PointWarrior]

I was wrong - they might beat Georgetown twice this year.  Wow, GT a team the turns over the ball at crucial times for than MU

Wow they blow, they are actually getting worse each game.   They may not actually win another game this season.

[wadesworld]

We could try to sue him for malpractice. After Buzz we needed an appendix removal but Wojo performed a lobotomy.

Took you so long to come up with a lobotomy that you first had to go with "brain surgery" and then edit the post? Lol.

[5DollarPitcher]

Took you so long to come up with a lobotomy that you first had to go with "brain surgery" and then edit the post? Lol.

After I posted I realized brain surgery was a little generous as that's a legitimate medical procedure. Good catch though!

[Boston Warrior]

I would like to see a Brian Dutcher from sd state. He recruited the fab 5 at Michigan. Has had success, from the Midwest, buyout is affordable and we can afford him.

[We R Final Four]

Wow they blow, they are actually getting worse each game.   They may not actually win another game this season.

After this one.

[Warrior-Eagle]

I would like to see a Brian Dutcher from sd state. He recruited the fab 5 at Michigan. Has had success, from the Midwest, buyout is affordable and we can afford him.

My recollection is that there was some Cash Incentives with the Fab 5.