NBA Thread 2020-21

[wadesworld]

I have way more faith in Trae Young strapping the Hawks on his back through this series than I do anyone on the Bucks.

You get 33/10 from Holiday and lose...at home...that’s no bueno.

It’s not like the Bucks have anyone more capable of strapping a team on their back than Kevin Durant is either.

[MU82]

Just one game.

It does magnify the importance of Game 2, though.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They seem to just be auto switching them?  Middleton did have an awful game but Holiday had his best offensive game of the playoffs.  The Bucks lost this game on the D glass but the fact is they have shot the ball poorly from distance the entire playoffs. 

They weren't auto switching from the beginning.  They only did that when they went small.  Which actually worked for awhile, on both ends of the floor, but going small was a problem when it came to rebounds.  Especially when Giannis was the one switched onto Young and was away from the basket.

I guess I don't understand why they're not hedging hard on those screens, especially when Capela sets them.

They may do that, but I just don't think the Bucks like hedging hard.  Young is really good at hitting the player cutting to the hoop on the roll too.

[cheebs09]

Carlisle back to the Pacers. Does this mean Bud’s job is safe?

[4everwarriors]

Nah, lotsa coaches out der. If he chits his Haggars, he gowne, hey?

[BM1090]

I'd guess Bud is safe if they get through Atlanta. If they lose this one, could get interesting.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

If they get to the NBA Finals, he is definitely safe.  Firing him at that point would look (and be) foolish.

[4everwarriors]

Dude is a disaster. Couldn't coach his way to a CYO championship. Jettison his ass along wit da udder smoes, hey?

[MuggsyB]

Dude is a disaster. Couldn't coach his way to a CYO championship. Jettison his ass along wit da udder smoes, hey?

If they lose this series it will be disastrous for the Bucks and Budenholzer.  You have to take advantage of this opportunity.  Truthfully I feel they're clearly the better team with Atlanta's injuries.

[cheebs09]

I don’t think Bud is a bad coach, but I do worry he’s hit his ceiling in the ECF. His Milwaukee tenure currently looks a lot like Atlanta. This series could make it a different story.

He seems to be a very good regular season coach, but struggles in the playoffs. It seems he sticks with what got them there rather than what might be best against a particular team.

The Bucks came out with the urgency of a Tuesday night in December. In the NBA, I’m not sure how much of that is on the coach.

[Jockey]

One example of why I am not a Bud fan. In a regular season game this would be meaningless - just another game. But he did this in the conference finals. Last night, it probably cost them the game.


When Holiday returned to the floor in the 2nd quarter, Teague did not return to the bench. Instead, Connaughton made his way off the floor. And when Young brought the ball down, Holiday was not standing right next to him. Instead, Teague met him near half court and defended him for the next five possessions.

In that time, Young used four of the Hawks’ possessions to hit a floater, commit a turnover, make a step back 3 and then step into another 3 while Teague tried to go underneath a screen. In just over 90 seconds, Young scored eight points on Teague, and the Bucks’ lead shrunk from 40-31 to 43-39.

[reinko]

Dude is a disaster. Couldn't coach his way to a CYO championship. Jettison his ass along wit da udder smoes, hey?

Weird how Dr. Tooth has been missing in this thread since the Bucks won game 7, but when they lose game 1, he pops back up again.  Really weird.

[tower912]

He is so right about so many things.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

LOL.

https://twitter.com/KDTrey5/status/1408167033334898691

[JWags85]

LOL.

https://twitter.com/KDTrey5/status/1408167033334898691

Then followed it up with

https://twitter.com/kdtrey5/status/1408169296405147649?s=21

Calling him “Scott” cracked me up

[MuggsyB]

Apparently Giannis should have been called for 10 secs, both times at the line, with under 6 secs to go.  Smh.  What is the deal with his routine?

[MuggsyB]

If you were Budenholzer how would you guard Trae Young?  I believe Milwaukee should win the whole thing.  And that absolutely helps Marquette hoops.

[Silkk the Shaka]

If you were Budenholzer how would you guard Trae Young? I believe Milwaukee should win the whole thing.  And that absolutely helps Marquette hoops.

Extremely physically. Make him feel it every time he enters the paint. Doesn't matter if 3 guys foul out. It will make him physically wilt by the 4th quarter. You simply cannot let him be comfortable or he'll torch you.

[MU82]

Apparently Giannis should have been called for 10 secs, both times at the line, with under 6 secs to go.  Smh.  What is the deal with his routine?

https://theathletic.com/news/hawks-frustrated-by-giannis-antetokounmpos-free-throw-routine-sources/h1xZBBbzSymj?source=dailyemail

The Atlanta Hawks join a growing list of teams frustrated with Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo's free throw routine taking longer than the NBA's permitted 10 seconds, sources tell The Athletic.

Atlanta is not happy that the league is continuing to look the other way on the matter in the Eastern Conference Finals, sources said.

In the Hawks' Game 1 116-113 win over the Bucks on Wednesday, Antetokounmpo — by Atlanta's internal count — ranged between 11.5 seconds and 13.3 seconds on his eight attempts but wasn't whistled once. On Thursday, the NBA's Last Two Minute Report showed Antetokounmpo's final two attempts (at the 3.5-second mark) were ruled to have been 10-second violations. His last two shots should not have counted.

I mean, is it a rule or isn't it? He's often WELL over 10 seconds.

Yes, NBA refs often ignore rules -- mostly traveling, moving screens and entering the lane too early on FTs.

But this one is so obvious, as play is stopped and everybody in the world can see it every single time. Gotta call it.

[cheebs09]

Extremely physically. Make him feel it every time he enters the paint. Doesn't matter if 3 guys foul out. It will make him physically wilt by the 4th quarter. You simply cannot let him be comfortable or he'll torch you.

Bucks aren’t exactly deep enough to have 3 guys foul out unless we want more Thanasis and Teague minutes in the second quarter.

 I don’t know if you need a hard hedge as he isn’t the greatest 3 point shooter, but need to stop him before he gets a head of steam going to the paint. That’s where his passing and floater killed us.

Also, he seems to be going to the Harden school of drawing fouls, so I don’t know if I’d try to rough him up too much.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Dude is a disaster. Couldn't coach his way to a CYO championship. Jettison his ass along wit da udder smoes, hey?

The Coach in Waiting is already settled in The Quon.

[jesmu84]

If you were Budenholzer how would you guard Trae Young?  I believe Milwaukee should win the whole thing.  And that absolutely helps Marquette hoops.

Why? Does every NBA champ city help college bball schools in that city?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Bucks aren’t exactly deep enough to have 3 guys foul out unless we want more Thanasis and Teague minutes in the second quarter.

 I don’t know if you need a hard hedge as he isn’t the greatest 3 point shooter, but need to stop him before he gets a head of steam going to the paint. That’s where his passing and floater killed us.

Also, he seems to be going to the Harden school of drawing fouls, so I don’t know if I’d try to rough him up too much.

I think the idea that you hit him coming down the lane is a relic of the 90s.  I don't mind the switching defenses with Lopez playing a lesser role, but the defense has to hit the boards.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

https://theathletic.com/news/hawks-frustrated-by-giannis-antetokounmpos-free-throw-routine-sources/h1xZBBbzSymj?source=dailyemail

The Atlanta Hawks join a growing list of teams frustrated with Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo's free throw routine taking longer than the NBA's permitted 10 seconds, sources tell The Athletic.

Atlanta is not happy that the league is continuing to look the other way on the matter in the Eastern Conference Finals, sources said.

In the Hawks' Game 1 116-113 win over the Bucks on Wednesday, Antetokounmpo — by Atlanta's internal count — ranged between 11.5 seconds and 13.3 seconds on his eight attempts but wasn't whistled once. On Thursday, the NBA's Last Two Minute Report showed Antetokounmpo's final two attempts (at the 3.5-second mark) were ruled to have been 10-second violations. His last two shots should not have counted.

I mean, is it a rule or isn't it? He's often WELL over 10 seconds.

Yes, NBA refs often ignore rules -- mostly traveling, moving screens and entering the lane too early on FTs.

But this one is so obvious, as play is stopped and everybody in the world can see it every single time. Gotta call it.

It's beyond ridiculous, but I don't think he goes THAT far over very often.

[cheebs09]

It's beyond ridiculous, but I don't think he goes THAT far over very often.

I think part of it is the routine he does before even getting the ball. That’s not part of the 10 seconds, but definitely adds to how long it takes for him to shoot one Free Throw.