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Road Kill
« on: December 04, 2020, 08:31:03 PM »
Will start a post game thoughts thread in the absence of Tower.

Loved, loved Wojo’s rotation tonight. Give the keys to Carton. Give Greg a few more minutes, especially when we need more energy.

Jamal has been solid all year, except when he has to dribble. So straight up and stiff.

Dawson will be good, but he has to get used to the physicality. He brings the ball down and lets defenders size him up.

Terrible play by Dexter to save the ball. But he’ll contribute this year.

Love that we can turn teams over this year, while also not giving up straight line drives to the bucket over and over.

Koby much better when he can defend and play off the ball versus running the offense.

Like Symir much more as a change of pace guy for a couple minutes. He seemed to push the pace more rather than stand and let his defender crowd him.

Am I missing anything else?

Oh yeah. Justin freaking Lewis is a stud.

Also, Tower is much better at this than me.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2020, 08:32:34 PM »
Hardly Davison
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2020, 08:33:19 PM »
Hardly Davidson

Was just going to say. He has yet to make a field goal in Fiserv Forum. Never will, unless he redshirts next year.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2020, 08:33:42 PM »
Dawson did a floor slap on defense!!

#floorslap

Loved the intensity today, especially at the end.

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2020, 08:34:26 PM »
That was a great game start to finish. I thought the defense shined most of all. Lewis played like the best player on the floor for nearly the entire half.

Wojo did not take timeouts at the end of the game and it worked out. I would’ve called the timeout, but I can’t criticize when it works out. Great win, and I hope for more of the same. We have seen signature wins during the Wojo era which have led to nothing. Let’s we if it’s different this time.

Also, not to diminish the win, but how in the hell was Wisconsin in the Top 5???

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2020, 08:36:12 PM »
I’ve been a little disappointed with Symir so far; I thought he’d be able to create more for others. He seems a little hesitant so I’m hoping he has a big game here soon to break out.

Love that Davison was a complete non-factor tonight. I haven’t hated an opponent more since Devendorf.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2020, 08:37:41 PM »
Loved the no time out. 
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2020, 08:39:12 PM »
anytime a Badger possession ends with a Davison three attempt, the defense won the possession.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2020, 08:39:20 PM »
We also were consistently torched by out of timeout plays drawn up by Gard. Including a 3 with 5 seconds left that could’ve beaten us.

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2020, 08:39:54 PM »
The small runs of PT have had some nightmarish plays but i actually see extreme potential in Dexter. Just rusty really costly mental mistakes mostly


And Greg, deserves a true bench role. Should not have DNP first halfs.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2020, 08:40:20 PM »
Loved the no time out.

+1. Big fan of that. Especially with a guy like DJ who seems to understand pace better than anyone we’ve had in a while.

anytime a Badger possession ends with a Davison three attempt, the defense won the possession.


Or any field goal attempt. 0-for his career in Fiserv.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2020, 08:42:00 PM »
Wow what a game. Lewis is my new favorite player. Lottery pick?? Alright too soon...wisc is very good and this will propel us. Love it. The ups and downs this week...whew!

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2020, 08:43:53 PM »
I’m not sure we win this game without the OSU loss on Tuesday.  We were the Badgers’ first non-cupcake game, and they weren’t ready for us.  Really good bounce back for MU.

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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2020, 08:44:15 PM »
Carton over Symir big difference.  Once he starts hitting some threes and making those floaters, he will be dangerous.  Those last two drives to the basket were ridiculous.  Maybe just rusty or something, but a big improvement on the floor.

Garcia is not bashful to take the three ball and still confused as to getting his shots blocked.  Very impressive though.

Minutes between Theo, Garcia, and Lewis will be interesting.  So far it has worked out fine.  Believe tonight was the most Lewis played due to Theo's foul issue.

Wojo must see something in Dexter.  He got playing time again, while Perez did not.  Kid built like a tank.

Amazing how much better team can play when you make only 11 turnovers ( I think), as opposed to 24. 

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2020, 08:49:05 PM »
I’m not sure we win this game without the OSU loss on Tuesday.  We were the Badgers’ first non-cupcake game, and they weren’t ready for us.  Really good bounce back for MU.
This is a good take.

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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2020, 08:50:46 PM »
Carton over Symir big difference.  Once he starts hitting some threes and making those floaters, he will be dangerous.  Those last two drives to the basket were ridiculous.  Maybe just rusty or something, but a big improvement on the floor.

Garcia is not bashful to take the three ball and still confused as to getting his shots blocked.  Very impressive though.

Minutes between Theo, Garcia, and Lewis will be interesting.  So far it has worked out fine.  Believe tonight was the most Lewis played due to Theo's foul issue.

Wojo must see something in Dexter.  He got playing time again, while Perez did not.  Kid built like a tank.

Amazing how much better team can play when you make only 11 turnovers ( I think), as opposed to 24.

Good thoughts. Although Garcia has been the opposite of impressive the last 2 games. He needs to play more around the perimeter and attack slower guys off the dribble. Less back to the basket and more shooting. He'll figure it out as he bulks up more but he's not facing the same high schoolers anymore.

DJ starting to shake off some rust. He's really shifty and it's nice to have a lead guard with a little more size. Dexter is really filled out and seems athletic. Hope he can make an impact. Is Perez going to even get burn? Is Torrence a big east caliber player?

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2020, 08:54:04 PM »
This is a good take.

Wojo playing 3D chess while everyone here is playing checkers

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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2020, 08:54:37 PM »
Was just going to say. He has yet to make a field goal in Fiserv Forum. Never will, unless he redshirts next year.
Indeed, a shout out to Floppy McNutpuncher, who finished 0-4 from the field, 0-1 on flop attempts, and missed a crucial front end of a 1-and-1 before fouling out.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2020, 09:00:19 PM »
How I feel tonight ....



February, 1974. Milwaukee Arena. Marquette coach Al McGuire leaps on top of the scorer's table and celebrates after Maurice Lucas hit a ridiculous last second jump shot to give the Warriors a one point victory over Wisconsin. In the stands almost directly opposite McGuire is Glenn Hughes, father of Kim and Kerry Hughes, Wisconsin's "Twin Towers of Power". Walking in the foreground is dejected Badger Coach, John Powless. Marquette went on to the NCAA tournament and finished second overall. Hank Raymond's reaction is priceless too.

Notice Mr. Hughes "salute" to Mr. McGuire.  Anytime you can get Bucky fans this upset, you have my utmost respect.


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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2020, 09:03:08 PM »
Front page of ESPN.com.

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2020, 09:05:15 PM »
Woaahhahhaahaha Shots all around. hell yeeee1!!

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2020, 09:06:48 PM »
We also were consistently torched by out of timeout plays drawn up by Gard. Including a 3 with 5 seconds left that could’ve beaten us.

We defended the Badgers’ last play perfectly. Trice hit a contested, fadeaway midrange jumper off of one foot.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2020, 09:08:32 PM »
Akanno is thicc
Lewis is a beast a both ends with a never-ending motor
Garcia looks slow and weak but you can tell he has basketball skill
Pushing the tempo continuously works wonders
Wojo's use of timeouts QUICKLY to stop runs was outstanding
If Carton can turn the corner on hitting a few more buckets, look out
Exceptional depth/everyone knowing their role

Edit: I understand that good guards make your team better in college bball, but Garcia/Lewis/Theo could be a hell of an inside trio for the rest of the season
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2020, 09:09:08 PM »
We defended the Badgers’ last play perfectly. Trice hit a contested, fadeaway midrange jumper off of one foot.
Agreed. This whole "good defense" thing, haven't seen it before in Wojo's tenure. It's nice, it turns out.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2020, 09:10:38 PM »
MU played good defense against OK St.    OK St played better defense and turned turnovers into points.   
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2020, 09:12:40 PM »
MU played good defense against OK St.    OK St played better defense and turned turnovers into points.
Definitely, excellent defense all four games. I guess I should have been more specific and said we haven't seen it before this year in Wojo's tenure.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2020, 09:13:42 PM »
Indeed, a shout out to Floppy McNutpuncher, who finished 0-4 from the field, 0-1 on flop attempts, and missed a crucial front end of a 1-and-1 before fouling out.

I agree

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2020, 09:14:11 PM »
Woaahhahhaahaha Shots all around. hell yeeee1!!
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2020, 09:16:07 PM »
Hardly Davison

I missed that one first time. Well played.

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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2020, 09:28:50 PM »
When was the last time any team, much less a Madison team attempted 10 more three than us in a game?  Recognition that whistles are being blown, and having your team attack, solid coaching by the ghost of Stan.

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2020, 09:37:16 PM »
When was the last time any team, much less a Madison team attempted 10 more three than us in a game?  Recognition that whistles are being blown, and having your team attack, solid coaching by the ghost of Stan Buzz.

Dare I say, paint touches?

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2020, 09:38:59 PM »
Will start a post game thoughts thread in the absence of Tower.

Loved, loved Wojo’s rotation tonight. Give the keys to Carton. Give Greg a few more minutes, especially when we need more energy.

Jamal has been solid all year, except when he has to dribble. So straight up and stiff.

Dawson will be good, but he has to get used to the physicality. He brings the ball down and lets defenders size him up.

Terrible play by Dexter to save the ball. But he’ll contribute this year.

Love that we can turn teams over this year, while also not giving up straight line drives to the bucket over and over.

Koby much better when he can defend and play off the ball versus running the offense.

Like Symir much more as a change of pace guy for a couple minutes. He seemed to push the pace more rather than stand and let his defender crowd him.

Am I missing anything else?

Oh yeah. Justin freaking Lewis is a stud.

Also, Tower is much better at this than me.


Well done. Tower says use numbers next time. ;)

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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2020, 09:54:51 PM »
This W deserved a 3 finger pour of Blantons ! ! !  8-)

I opened elijah 18 for this one. Felt nice! Cheers.
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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2020, 10:03:47 PM »
Will start a post game thoughts thread in the absence of Tower.

Loved, loved Wojo’s rotation tonight. Give the keys to Carton. Give Greg a few more minutes, especially when we need more energy.

Jamal has been solid all year, except when he has to dribble. So straight up and stiff.

Dawson will be good, but he has to get used to the physicality. He brings the ball down and lets defenders size him up.

Terrible play by Dexter to save the ball. But he’ll contribute this year.

Love that we can turn teams over this year, while also not giving up straight line drives to the bucket over and over.

Koby much better when he can defend and play off the ball versus running the offense.

Like Symir much more as a change of pace guy for a couple minutes. He seemed to push the pace more rather than stand and let his defender crowd him.

Am I missing anything else?

Oh yeah. Justin freaking Lewis is a stud.

Also, Tower is much better at this than me.
Turnovers. Symir and Greg with 10 and 15 minutes respectively, no turnovers. Symir’s defense looks better.

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Re: Road Kill
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2020, 10:17:22 PM »
  • Star making performance for Justin Lewis. I kept thinking "man, he keeps making SOTG type plays." And then he really did.
  • Well-coached game. Offensive gameplan to keep attacking downhill paid off all night long. Defense allowed Ford to be the three-taker most of the time.
  • Carton is interesting. Can really turn it on, but could use more lift on his floaters (can Markus give a tutorial?). Defensively, he's the most aggressive steal pursuer we've had since Jajuan Johnson.
  • Theo played really well with 3 & 4 fouls. Impressive staying on the floor.
  • Wisconsin fans are putting it all on the refs, but it was clear how they were calling the game from the start and they were pretty consistent. Wisconsin didn't get calls until the end because they weren't attacking.
  • Greg was really sneaky good.
  • Koby was also really good. He did hold that one late shot clock three too long and forced it, but his defense was great and he played within himself on offense.
  • Brad Davison finishes his career 0/7 from the field at Fiserv. More than twice as many fouls (9) as points scored (4). Of course, he'll probably play a fifth year...
  • Beating Wisconsin never gets old. Beating #4 Wisconsin? Now that's money. Probably the second best win of Wojo's career.
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2020, 10:26:29 PM »
Been saying for some time that DJ has elite level speed . That drive at the end when he went to his off hand was A classic example of what he brings to the table

Justin is a throwback to what MU basketball used to be , tough and talented . Love that he is in our program .

Greg needs more minutes . He makes great decisions when he is on the floor .

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2020, 10:28:30 PM »
Been saying for some time that DJ has elite level speed . That drive at the end when he went to his off hand was A classic example of what he brings to the table

Justin is a throwback to what MU basketball used to be , tough and talented . Love that he is in our program .

Greg needs more minutes . He makes great decisions when he is on the floor .

We have had a lot of tough and talented players in recent years, including Markus, Sam and Theo. Agree about Greg. Can't wait until DJ's shot really starts falling; he will be dangerous.
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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2020, 10:37:25 PM »
I like that when our PG dribble into the opposing defense, I don't feel like its going to automatically result in a low %age FGA or a turnover.
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2020, 10:40:17 PM »
I thought DJ quietly controlled the game in the half court. He also looks like he could score quite a bit more at the rim if he decided to attack more often. Huge credit to Wojo inspiring his team for a big bounce back performance. As close as this game was it felt like we were in control wire to wire.
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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2020, 10:42:45 PM »
  • Star making performance for Justin Lewis. I kept thinking "man, he keeps making SOTG type plays." And then he really did.
  • Well-coached game. Offensive gameplan to keep attacking downhill paid off all night long. Defense allowed Ford to be the three-taker most of the time.
  • Carton is interesting. Can really turn it on, but could use more lift on his floaters (can Markus give a tutorial?). Defensively, he's the most aggressive steal pursuer we've had since Jajuan Johnson.
  • Theo played really well with 3 & 4 fouls. Impressive staying on the floor.
  • Wisconsin fans are putting it all on the refs, but it was clear how they were calling the game from the start and they were pretty consistent. Wisconsin didn't get calls until the end because they weren't attacking.
  • Greg was really sneaky good.
  • Koby was also really good. He did hold that one late shot clock three too long and forced it, but his defense was great and he played within himself on offense.
  • Brad Davison finishes his career 0/7 from the field at Fiserv. More than twice as many fouls (9) as points scored (4). Of course, he'll probably play a fifth year...
  • Beating Wisconsin never gets old. Beating #4 Wisconsin? Now that's money. Probably the second best win of Wojo's career.

Nailed it, well done brew.

Everything was accurate. Greg and Koby points easily missed but spot on for tonight. Buck Davison.

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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2020, 10:43:21 PM »
In the first minute of the second half, we had four fouls called on us.  UW had a ton called on them in the first half, so it seems like the refs got together at halftime and decided to give them a few make up ones.  Pretty evenly called game.  I never like seeing a game decided on a block/charge, but that was Trice’s fault.  The ref had to call something.

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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2020, 10:46:45 PM »
Not complaining, but tonight kinda proves that no team should ever play man defense against MU. They’re gonna see a ton of zone in Big East play.

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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2020, 10:52:04 PM »
  • Star making performance for Justin Lewis. I kept thinking "man, he keeps making SOTG type plays." And then he really did.
  • Well-coached game. Offensive gameplan to keep attacking downhill paid off all night long. Defense allowed Ford to be the three-taker most of the time.
  • Carton is interesting. Can really turn it on, but could use more lift on his floaters (can Markus give a tutorial?). Defensively, he's the most aggressive steal pursuer we've had since Jajuan Johnson.
  • Theo played really well with 3 & 4 fouls. Impressive staying on the floor.
  • Wisconsin fans are putting it all on the refs, but it was clear how they were calling the game from the start and they were pretty consistent. Wisconsin didn't get calls until the end because they weren't attacking.
  • Greg was really sneaky good.
  • Koby was also really good. He did hold that one late shot clock three too long and forced it, but his defense was great and he played within himself on offense.
  • Brad Davison finishes his career 0/7 from the field at Fiserv. More than twice as many fouls (9) as points scored (4). Of course, he'll probably play a fifth year...
  • Beating Wisconsin never gets old. Beating #4 Wisconsin? Now that's money. Probably the second best win of Wojo's career.

Perfecto, brew. Love the note about Douchey McNutpuncher.

Koby quietly had a very effective game tonight. Got aggressive offensively when we needed it but didn't force much. Solid D as usual.

When DJ has the ball, he looks for opportunities to attack. He doesn't dribble just to do it. The offense is definitely better when he's in the game, and it will get better still when his shot starts falling. I think almost every one of them is going in, and I am always talking to the TV, telling him to take it.

The refs had little to do with this game. I mean, we got called for 4 fouls in the first minute of the second half, 2 were barely touches, 2 were on Theo. Refs are refs. They make some good calls and some bad calls. The call at the end of the game was exactly right. And they get bonus points for not falling for McNutpuncher's obvious flop.

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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2020, 12:00:17 AM »
My favorite play of the night was our third to last offensive possession.  Lewis got Trice (or maybe it was Davis, who, sadly, is going to be very good for them) on him in the post, took his time backing him down even with the shot clock running low, and turned to face and banked it in with the softest touch to go up one.
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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2020, 12:15:17 AM »
My favorite play of the night was our third to last offensive possession.  Lewis got Trice (or maybe it was Davis, who, sadly, is going to be very good for them) on him in the post, took his time backing him down even with the shot clock running low, and turned to face and banked it in with the softest touch to go up one.

It was Trice. The best part about it was that Lewis recognized the mismatch right away and hollared at John to get out of the post so he could take advantage. Love seeing a freshman know the right play and communicate to a senior to tell him to get out of the way
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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2020, 12:35:55 AM »
It was Trice. The best part about it was that Lewis recognized the mismatch right away and hollared at John to get out of the post so he could take advantage. Love seeing a freshman know the right play and communicate to a senior to tell him to get out of the way

It was Trice. Meaning that down the stretch, Trice was ... beaten by DJ, beaten by Lewis, beaten by DJ again, and committed the foul on DJ that led to all the excitement at the end. Love it!
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2020, 12:36:38 AM »
All this on a night where Sam Hauser scored 18, including the last 5 of an OT win for Virginia.  No real point to that comment, just didn't see it mentioned anywhere else

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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2020, 12:41:32 AM »
All this on a night where Sam Hauser scored 18, including the last 5 of an OT win for Virginia.  No real point to that comment, just didn't see it mentioned anywhere else

Thanks for sharing.  Very relevant to the MU vs. UW game.
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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2020, 12:44:25 AM »
I am surprised and disappointed by the fairly restrained responses on Buckyville -- outside of a handful of dinguses, they seem to accept that they were outplayed and should move on to the next game.

Full points, though, to the small but brave contingent over there who keep referring to us as The Gold.
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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2020, 01:09:58 AM »
Don't wanna spend much of this thread talking about the Scum in red but...


Davis is really going to be a real pain in the ass for years. He didn't have the game that JL had but he was really impressive.
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« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2020, 08:21:21 AM »
It was Trice. The best part about it was that Lewis recognized the mismatch right away and hollared at John to get out of the post so he could take advantage. Love seeing a freshman know the right play and communicate to a senior to tell him to get out of the way
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I noticed that too (and mentioned it in the SOTG thread). As it was happening, I commented to my wife that I loved seeing a freshman - with under a minute to go in a huge game - calling fir the ball and directing seniors on the floor. That was fantastic.
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2020, 09:35:12 AM »
First, what a well played college game on both sides. Second, loving the defensive system this season. Third, a big win for the conference. Fourth, Lewis is a stud and a winner. Fifth, I wish us fans could have been there to relish.

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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2020, 09:37:15 AM »
My favorite play of the night was our third to last offensive possession.  Lewis got Trice (or maybe it was Davis, who, sadly, is going to be very good for them) on him in the post, took his time backing him down even with the shot clock running low, and turned to face and banked it in with the softest touch to go up one.

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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2020, 09:46:34 AM »
Not complaining, but tonight kinda proves that no team should ever play man defense against MU. They’re gonna see a ton of zone in Big East play.

This is possible but a good zone will require length and some athleticism.  Teams that don’t play it a lot, even if they practice some, don’t magically become good at it.

The coaching staff has no excuse not to expect it or prepare for it, though. 
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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2020, 09:55:20 AM »
This is possible but a good zone will require length and some athleticism.  Teams that don’t play it a lot, even if they practice some, don’t magically become good at it.

The coaching staff has no excuse not to expect it or prepare for it, though.

The fact that Gard couldn't get 5 seniors, mostly redshirts, to play zone periodically against MU says a lot about him.  MU played Wisconsin's brand of basketball and beat them at it.  Definitely one of the worst coaching jobs ever in by a Wisconsin coach in the series or any coach for that matter. 

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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2020, 10:47:46 AM »
The fact that Gard couldn't get 5 seniors, mostly redshirts, to play zone periodically against MU says a lot about him.  MU played Wisconsin's brand of basketball and beat them at it.  Definitely one of the worst coaching jobs ever in by a Wisconsin coach in the series or any coach for that matter.

This is how every significant Wisconsin game has been coached since 2000. They have a system and stick to it. It's a weakness of being a systems coach...a type of coach you claimed to love!

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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2020, 10:51:34 AM »
This is how every significant Wisconsin game has been coached since 2000. They have a system and stick to it. It's a weakness of being a systems coach...a type of coach you claimed to love!

Heck, it’s the reason they didn’t beat Kentucky in 03. They refused to double down on Estill.

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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2020, 11:56:24 AM »
This is how every significant Wisconsin game has been coached since 2000. They have a system and stick to it. It's a weakness of being a systems coach...a type of coach you claimed to love!

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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2020, 12:15:23 PM »
The fact that Gard couldn't get 5 seniors, mostly redshirts, to play zone periodically against MU says a lot about him.  MU played Wisconsin's brand of basketball and beat them at it.  Definitely one of the worst coaching jobs ever in by a Wisconsin coach in the series or any coach for that matter.
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« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2020, 12:24:56 PM »
I might add to this that DJ's trey at the end of the 1st half may have been the biggest shot of the game.

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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2020, 12:31:51 PM »
I might add to this that DJ's trey at the end of the 1st half may have been the biggest shot of the game.

I do wonder how many times we’ve had the lead at home going into halftime, and then went out and got punched in the mouth the first four minutes of the second half.  It seems to happen quite a bit.

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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2020, 01:24:07 PM »
Just saying, the day after feeling of a big win is just as good, if not better than the feeling as the night of.

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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2020, 01:40:23 PM »
Just saying, the day after feeling of a big win is just as good, if not better than the feeling as the night of.

Hard agree. Beating bucky is too good to not enjoy for a week or so

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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2020, 02:02:24 PM »
I might add to this that DJ's trey at the end of the 1st half may have been the biggest shot of the game.

The entire sequence at the end of the half was huge. Down 1, JL hits a quick 3 so we can get a 2-for-1 opportunity, then we get a stop, then DJ hits his 3.

Just like that ... up 5.

Gave us a little cushion to survive our sloppy play and foul-fest early in the 2H. Then Wojo called a good TO and it was a battle the rest of the way.
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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2020, 02:12:18 PM »
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The 2 for 1 was very big. I thought that was a real game changer.

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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2020, 03:13:26 PM »
Just saying, the day after feeling of a big win is just as good, if not better than the feeling as the night of.

Disagree, as I drink my second pedialyte and down Advil it does not feel good.
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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2020, 03:53:30 PM »
This is possible but a good zone will require length and some athleticism.  Teams that don’t play it a lot, even if they practice some, don’t magically become good at it.

The coaching staff has no excuse not to expect it or prepare for it, though.


Agree on both points. Opponents might try zoning us, but not many have the length and athleticism of OK State. And if they haven't practiced it until a day or two before playing us, length and athleticism probably won't be enough.

Either way, Wojo better have us prepared just in case.

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« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2020, 10:35:23 PM »
All this on a night where Sam Hauser scored 18, including the last 5 of an OT win for Virginia.  No real point to that comment, just didn't see it mentioned anywhere else
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« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2020, 10:44:49 PM »
Just watched the 8-minute Marquette-Madison replay on YT. Fun to re-live it.

Beyond the obvious -- all the great shots, tough D, back-and-forth action, etc -- a couple of things I noticed when watching live that really stood out when watching the replay:

1. DJ needs to get better at using screens. He doesn't take his man close enough to the screener. It looks like the screener hasn't done his job, but it's actually DJ's responsibility there. Will make the pick-and-pop more effective if DJ fixes this.

2. A Wis player (Trice, I think) fired an airball from behind the arc and the ball was headed out of bounds. For some reason, though, Akanno tried to save it. He threw the ball in right under our defensive hoop and Potter got a layup. Never do that, young man!
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« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2020, 10:48:59 PM »
Just watched the 8-minute Marquette-Madison replay on YT. Fun to re-live it.

Beyond the obvious -- all the great shots, tough D, back-and-forth action, etc -- a couple of things I noticed when watching live that really stood out when watching the replay:

1. DJ needs to get better at using screens. He doesn't take his man close enough to the screener. It looks like the screener hasn't done his job, but it's actually DJ's responsibility there. Will make the pick-and-pop more effective if DJ fixes this.

2. A Wis player (Trice, I think) fired an airball from behind the arc and the ball was headed out of bounds. For some reason, though, Akanno tried to save it. He threw the ball in right under our defensive hoop and Potter got a layup. Never do that, young man!

#2 didn't stand out to you right away?? Lol. It was a big swing in the first half and had him on the bench for the rest of the game. Brutal mistake.

I think he will bounce back though.
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« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2020, 10:52:14 PM »
#2 didn't stand out to you right away?? Lol. It was a big swing in the first half and had him on the bench for the rest of the game. Brutal mistake.

I think he will bounce back though.

You're right. I was grumbling when it happened. Watching it again ... grrrrr!
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« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2020, 01:45:27 AM »
MU playing defense for both halves too - non-stop D.  Love it!  Congrats to team and Wojo!

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« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2020, 01:20:25 PM »
Just watched the 8-minute Marquette-Madison replay on YT. Fun to re-live it.

Beyond the obvious -- all the great shots, tough D, back-and-forth action, etc -- a couple of things I noticed when watching live that really stood out when watching the replay:

1. DJ needs to get better at using screens. He doesn't take his man close enough to the screener. It looks like the screener hasn't done his job, but it's actually DJ's responsibility there. Will make the pick-and-pop more effective if DJ fixes this.

2. A Wis player (Trice, I think) fired an airball from behind the arc and the ball was headed out of bounds. For some reason, though, Akanno tried to save it. He threw the ball in right under our defensive hoop and Potter got a layup. Never do that, young man!
1. Yes—I also noticed this. If he doesn’t either use the screen or use it as a decoy, I think we are going to see some cheap Matt Heldt type illegal screens 35’ from the hoop. DJ needs to get closer or JL DG and TJ are going to make a late step to close that gap caused by DJC, and get called.
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« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2020, 05:53:11 PM »
Don't wanna spend much of this thread talking about the Scum in red but...


Davis is really going to be a real pain in the ass for years. He didn't have the game that JL had but he was really impressive.
I was thinking the same thing when I was watching the game. Kid came off the bench and used his size and skills to provide a spark.   

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« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2020, 08:31:00 PM »
How I feel tonight ....



February, 1974. Milwaukee Arena. Marquette coach Al McGuire leaps on top of the scorer's table and celebrates after Maurice Lucas hit a ridiculous last second jump shot to give the Warriors a one point victory over Wisconsin. In the stands almost directly opposite McGuire is Glenn Hughes, father of Kim and Kerry Hughes, Wisconsin's "Twin Towers of Power". Walking in the foreground is dejected Badger Coach, John Powless. Marquette went on to the NCAA tournament and finished second overall. Hank Raymond's reaction is priceless too.

Notice Mr. Hughes "salute" to Mr. McGuire.  Anytime you can get Bucky fans this upset, you have my utmost respect.



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« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2020, 12:23:19 PM »
Don't wanna spend much of this thread talking about the Scum in red but...


Davis is really going to be a real pain in the ass for years. He didn't have the game that JL had but he was really impressive.

You mean Johnny Davis?  One-half of the "Greg Gard would never use two scholarships to get one player" Davis twins?
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