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Author Topic: General Big East Thread 20-21  (Read 38387 times)

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #450 on: January 21, 2021, 09:28:48 AM »
That is the Creighton's fan base's knock on McDermott.  If the team isn't shooting well from outside, they never really have any adjustments to counter for consistent scoring.  They have a style/brand of playing, and when it doesn't work, the team loses.  Villanova, due to its abundance of high talent, can beat you in a variety of ways, which continues to make them a year-in, year-out national favorite. 

Providence's win was not good for Marquette.  It appears that MU and PC, at present, are both battling for #6 (which likely is the last remaining tournament spot from the BE into the NCAAT).  A loss for them would have created a little separation.  We remain neck and neck with them (with a very important H2H victory). 

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #451 on: January 21, 2021, 09:35:40 AM »
From a quadrant standpoint, Providence winning helped. Our win over Providence moved from Q3 to Q2 and at Creighton is still a Q1A win with an 11 spot buffer to Q1B. The game at Providence is now a Q1 game.

MU's Current Quadrant Profile:
Q1A: 2-3
Q1B: 0-0
Q2A: 0-3
Q2B: 2-0
Q3: 1-0
Q4: 3-0
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #452 on: January 21, 2021, 10:12:14 AM »
There isn't a cap on the number of teams a conference can put into the Tournament.  It's not "either Providence or Marquette."  Both teams could easily get in based on what they do the rest of the season, and both teams could easily miss the Tournament based on what they do the rest of the season.
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #453 on: January 21, 2021, 04:09:43 PM »
Butler pausing their game for tomorrow with Seton Hall due to a Covid issue within the bulldogs program. I know it's somewhat out, but wonder if our game Feb. 2nd is in jeopardy or will be the first game back for butler.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #454 on: January 21, 2021, 05:14:18 PM »
Butler pausing their game for tomorrow with Seton Hall due to a Covid issue within the bulldogs program. I know it's somewhat out, but wonder if our game Feb. 2nd is in jeopardy or will be the first game back for butler.

My understanding is that pauses are a minumum of 2 weeks. Given that they played on the 19th, the earliest the pause could have started was the 20th, putting the 2 week mark at February 3rd. I think that means that the game is canc...er...postponed.
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #455 on: January 21, 2021, 05:23:42 PM »
My understanding is that pauses are a minumum of 2 weeks. Given that they played on the 19th, the earliest the pause could have started was the 20th, putting the 2 week mark at February 3rd. I think that means that the game is canc...er...postponed.

I could be wrong but I believe that the minimum pause length was reduced.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #456 on: January 21, 2021, 05:40:23 PM »
That is the Creighton's fan base's knock on McDermott.  If the team isn't shooting well from outside, they never really have any adjustments to counter for consistent scoring.  They have a style/brand of playing, and when it doesn't work, the team loses.  Villanova, due to its abundance of high talent, can beat you in a variety of ways, which continues to make them a year-in, year-out national favorite. 

Providence's win was not good for Marquette.  It appears that MU and PC, at present, are both battling for #6 (which likely is the last remaining tournament spot from the BE into the NCAAT).  A loss for them would have created a little separation.  We remain neck and neck with them (with a very important H2H victory).
The 6th place Big East team will not make the tournament without winning two games in Big East tournament.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #457 on: January 21, 2021, 07:38:49 PM »
The 6th place Big East team will not make the tournament without winning two games in Big East tournament.

We go through this every year. We won't know this for another month at least.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #458 on: January 21, 2021, 07:58:10 PM »
We go through this every year. We won't know this for another month at least.
Correct, lots of things to sort out.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #459 on: January 22, 2021, 01:07:01 AM »
Correct, lots of things to sort out.
As a result of the shorten non-conference season the Big East has very little respect.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #460 on: January 22, 2021, 07:21:44 AM »
The BEast is down from past seasons.  I don't recall us ever being out of the top 3 in the NET and we're 5th.  On the other hand there is a big drop between the B10 and B12 vs the other conferences.  When you look at very little distinguishes the SEC, ACC, and the BEast. 

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #461 on: January 22, 2021, 10:18:24 AM »
I could be wrong but I believe that the minimum pause length was reduced.


It has been difficult to find any definitive statement of the BE rules.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #462 on: January 22, 2021, 10:41:10 AM »
Is the Big East even a conference?
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #463 on: January 22, 2021, 01:07:22 PM »
The BEast is down from past seasons.  I don't recall us ever being out of the top 3 in the NET and we're 5th.  On the other hand there is a big drop between the B10 and B12 vs the other conferences.  When you look at very little distinguishes the SEC, ACC, and the BEast.
Since inception of this version of The Big East, the conference has done very well every year in non conference. The NET metrics are complex, however the three general areas of adjusted winning percentage, Big Wins and Team Efficiency the league as a whole did well on. The value of beating the cupcakes was that win loss percentage and efficiency went up and every year it seemed like each team had at least one signature win.

The problem this year, is  a)some of our worst teams in conference did not get their cupcake games in and b) the better teams did not have the benefit of a full schedule to get in the signature wins. So the league now has 4 sub 100 teams. The problem with that is that two of those teams , The Johnnies  and Butler can actually compete and win games in conference against the better teams. 

So what the league needs now is for the top 7 to keep doing well and the bottom 4 to perform poorly.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #464 on: January 22, 2021, 01:09:30 PM »
Is the Big East even a conference?

That's a real existential question you pose there!   Let's not get too philosophical on a Friday... but one has to ask... if a game is scheduled but there's no fans and I don't watch it on tv, was it ever even played?

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« Reply #465 on: January 22, 2021, 03:14:08 PM »
The BEast is down from past seasons.  I don't recall us ever being out of the top 3 in the NET and we're 5th.  On the other hand there is a big drop between the B10 and B12 vs the other conferences.  When you look at very little distinguishes the SEC, ACC, and the BEast.
We do not really know for sure that the Big East is down, because of the shorten non-conference season.

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« Reply #466 on: January 22, 2021, 06:10:32 PM »
As a result of the shorten non-conference season the Big East has very little respect.
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #467 on: January 23, 2021, 09:20:14 AM »
Butler back in business, planning to play UConn Tuesday. The test was deemed a false positive.

https://twitter.com/butlermbb/status/1352979399562301440?s=10

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #468 on: January 23, 2021, 10:16:19 AM »
Butler back in business, planning to play UConn Tuesday. The test was deemed a false positive.

https://twitter.com/butlermbb/status/1352979399562301440?s=10

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #469 on: January 23, 2021, 12:38:05 PM »
I think  U Conn is going to be an increasingly powerful program in our Big East Conference as the years go by.   Coach Hurley is a solid coach and the recruits he is bringing in are getting the job done, with more on the way.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #470 on: January 23, 2021, 12:44:47 PM »
I think  U Conn is going to be an increasingly powerful program in our Big East Conference as the years go by.   Coach Hurley is a solid coach and the recruits he is bringing in are getting the job done, with more on the way.

We’ll see. So far, Hurley has not distinguished himself at this level, but it’s early.

UConn has everything a program needs to have success, though. Much like Marquette.
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« Reply #471 on: January 23, 2021, 01:16:51 PM »
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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #472 on: January 23, 2021, 01:19:08 PM »
Good win for Creighton today over a  U Conn squad  that played tough without Bouknight.  The Blue Jays needed to get back on the winning side of things after losing two straight.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #473 on: January 23, 2021, 02:36:48 PM »
Typical Big East Battle between Providence and Villanova. Providence up at half.

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Re: General Big East Thread 20-21
« Reply #474 on: January 23, 2021, 02:49:49 PM »
Now that is a new reason to delay a game.   Blinded by the light.
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