COVID Economy

[JWags85]

The truck drivers retaliation to the mandate has been financial terrorism. Putting people out of work is more than 'dramatic'. Their goal was/is to hurt business & industry in both Canada and the US. Why shouldn't the Canadian gov't respond in kind.

Donating to the truckers means the government will find out who you are and freeze your bank accounts, as a private citizen.  You give to a GoFundMe to a group we are at odds with, we can freeze your accounts. Thats totalitarian, period.

"Financial terrorism" give me a break.  Nobody is inspiring terror.  Its a protest/defiance plain and simple.  Its a pseduo-blockade, which countries do all the time. When the truckers start detonating their trucks or ramming them into border stations, then we can talk.

Civil disobedience is financial terrorism?

While I agree with the BLM movement's goals and mission more than the truckers, there was no "hurting of business and industry" in their goals to get heard?

Both were trying to disrupt and inconvenience to get their missions heard/accomplished.  Again, this is excusing similar broad situations because one cause is deemed worthy and the other deemed spurious.

[The Sultan]

Do you agree the same should have been done during the BLM demonstrations? 

Do BLM next.  Hack.

Most of the BLM demonstrations were peaceful, didn't clog streets for weeks and shut down international borders.

[jesmu84]

It's not "truckers".

[Jockey]

Donating to the truckers means the government will find out who you are and freeze your bank accounts, as a private citizen.  You give to a GoFundMe to a group we are at odds with, we can freeze your accounts. Thats totalitarian, period.

"Financial terrorism" give me a break.  Nobody is inspiring terror.  Its a protest/defiance plain and simple.  Its a pseduo-blockade, which countries do all the time. When the truckers start detonating their trucks or ramming them into border stations, then we can talk.


While I agree with the BLM movement's goals and mission more than the truckers, there was no "hurting of business and industry" in their goals to get heard?

Both were trying to disrupt and inconvenience to get their missions heard/accomplished.  Again, this is excusing similar broad situations because one cause is deemed worthy and the other deemed spurious.

Groups that contributed to a coup attempt in the US are also giving to the truckers. It is not simply a protest.

[rocket surgeon]

Groups that contributed to a coup attempt in the US are also giving to the truckers. It is not simply a protest.

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

[tower912]

12/10   

[Uncle Rico]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

Put this in Marquette's recruiting guide. 

[JWags85]

Groups that contributed to a coup attempt in the US are also giving to the truckers. It is not simply a protest.

That's fine, it's still not "financial terrorism" that justifies confiscating crypto wallets and freezing accounts/cards they way you'd do with a discovered Al Qaeda cell.

If Trump and his cronies had did something like this to people who were contributing to the bail fund for people arrested in various BLM riots, or BLM the organization in general (not the movement), people would have lost their damn minds.

[Pakuni]

That's fine, it's still not "financial terrorism" that justifies confiscating crypto wallets and freezing accounts/cards they way you'd do with a discovered Al Qaeda cell.

On the other hand, they are knowingly funding a criminal enterprise, not giving to the United Way.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

Glorious.

The Pooba of Buffons

[MU82]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

Grade A RoQQet! You gave your Mad King a little mushroom woody with this one.

[Hards Alumni]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

Is this self parody?  I guess we'll never know for sure.

[MU82]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

Nah, just your run of the mill 1/6/21 incited-by-the-sitting-president-who-watched-with-glee-as-150-cops-were-injured-by-his-armed-terrorist-mob coup attempt.

You know, the one that caused your god's own kids to beg him to do something about it, the one that had all of his Foxy Friends pleading with him to put a stop to it, the one that Cancun Cruz repeatedly called a "terrorist act" (until Tucker grabbed him by the nuts), the one that the Senate minority leader just called a "violent insurrection," the one during which your god's cultists tried to overthrow the U.S. government as they chanted "Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!" That coup attempt.

[Pakuni]

coup attempt??  you can't be talking about cankles trying to over throw a duly elected and sitting grand pooba...you know, the smashed up blackberries, wiped out hard drives, 10's of thousands of emails flushed, tapping into potus hard drive, making schiff up to form a fake dossier to use in fisa courts, ruining innocent people's lives, taking million$ from foreign sources...you mean that coup? or the ignoring of coke head and the "big guy" selling out for money from foreign countries, selling paintings made from his used up crack pipe...
   
  ok, now you're talkin some sense

This is what happens to a brain fed a steady diet of Fox News and OANN.

[Billy Hoyle]

Most of the BLM demonstrations were peaceful, didn't clog streets for weeks and shut down international borders.

"Most." LOL. That makes it all ok.

$2 billion in damages. Lives lost, businesses that have never recovered. That was terrorism. Any fires, deaths, intentional damage or destruction by those hosers in Ottawa?

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/insurance-costs-for-george-floyd-riots-will-be-most-expensive-in-history-233905.aspx

[The Sultan]

"Most." LOL. That makes it all ok.

$2 billion in damages. Lives lost, businesses that have never recovered. That was terrorism. Any fires, deaths, intentional damage or destruction by those hosers in Ottawa?

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/insurance-costs-for-george-floyd-riots-will-be-most-expensive-in-history-233905.aspx

I don't know what you mean by "make it all OK" but yeah, if most of the protests were peaceful, there should be no problem with people assembling since it is a Constitutional right.  People who cause property damage should face criminal penalties.  It's not hard.

The protests in Canada shut down an international border that cost the auto industry nearly $1B in losses.  Are the truckers going to pay for that?  The missed wages that workers had?  Doubtful.

[MU82]

I have yet to see a single Scooper say that those who committed violent acts during the summer of 2020 protests shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law. I, for one, hope each perpetrator is identified, tried, convicted and sentenced to the max the law allows.

Meanwhile, many Scoopers have minimized the financial damage these truckers have caused, have minimized the deadly neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville and, of course, have minimized the 1/6/21 coup attempt.

Oh ... and BTW ... Queen Elizabeth II has Covid.

[4everwarriors]

Oh, and how is the 95 yo doin', hey?

[🏀]

Oh, and how is the 95 yo doin', hey?

God saved the queen with vaccines.

[The Sultan]

God saved the queen with vaccines.

A true fascist regime.

[CountryRoads]

I have yet to see a single Scooper say that those who committed violent acts during the summer of 2020 protests shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law. I, for one, hope each perpetrator is identified, tried, convicted and sentenced to the max the law allows.

Meanwhile, many Scoopers have minimized the financial damage these truckers have caused, have minimized the deadly neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville and, of course, have minimized the 1/6/21 coup attempt.

Oh ... and BTW ... Queen Elizabeth II has Covid.

People on this board minimize BLM and the financial damage they caused, almost on a daily basis. Furthermore, I haven't seen any scoopers saying that the violent acts committed in the other events (1/6, Charlottesville) shouldn't be condemned and punished to the fullest extent of the law either. So, from what I see, it really goes both ways and is more balanced than you make it out to be. I'm still curious as to why 1/6 comes up in almost every thread. Almost never has any relevance to the topic at hand.

[🏀]

People on this board minimize BLM and the financial damage they caused, almost on a daily basis. Furthermore, I haven't seen any scoopers saying that the violent acts committed in the other events (1/6, Charlottesville) shouldn't be condemned and punished to the fullest extent of the law either. So, from what I see, it really goes both ways and is more balanced than you make it out to be. I'm still curious as to why 1/6 comes up in almost every thread. Almost never has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Usually BLM is mentioned, then Insurrection follows.

Not sure why they both can't even exist on their own.

[MU82]

People on this board minimize BLM and the financial damage they caused, almost on a daily basis. Furthermore, I haven't seen any scoopers saying that the violent acts committed in the other events (1/6, Charlottesville) shouldn't be condemned and punished to the fullest extent of the law either. So, from what I see, it really goes both ways and is more balanced than you make it out to be. I'm still curious as to why 1/6 comes up in almost every thread. Almost never has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Actually, numerous Scoopers, led by the ALM crowd, minimize the attempted coup of 1/6/21 constantly.

They've accused antifa of starting it, they've charged Capitol police officers with faking their injuries, they've tried to claim the insurrection was mostly peaceful, they've said that the president of the United States inciting a coup attempt against his own country was no big deal, they have no interest in finding out the truth, they still believe the lie that the guy who fueled the coup attempt has repeated 10,000 times ... and anytime 1/6/21 is mentioned, they change the subject to the completely unrelated violence that broke out during protests for civil rights in the aftermath of George Floyd being murdered.

On the other hand, the violence and looting that did happen as an adjunct to the mostly peaceful civil-rights protests of 2020 has been strongly condemned by every Scooper.

[Lennys Tap]

If Trump and his cronies had did something like this to people who were contributing to the bail fund for people arrested in various BLM riots, or BLM the organization in general (not the movement), people would have lost their damn minds.

Bingo.

[Pakuni]

If Trump and his cronies had did something like this to people who were contributing to the bail fund for people arrested in various BLM riots, or BLM the organization in general (not the movement), people would have lost their damn minds.

Serious question for you and Lenny ...
Do you see raising funds to support the exercise of a legal and Constitutionally protected right - the posting of bond - the same as raising funds to support the exercise of a criminal act, i.e. blocking traffic and commerce?