Michigan

[rocket surgeon]

maybe your mad king should tell his terrorists to try to kidnap and murder her again. that'd show her!

  nice deflection 82, we're talking about covid here-pay attention,  you just can't handle the truth about "your people" mishandling the pandemic because your "media" is depressingly a big propaganda machine that will eventually be the demise of all of us-wake up and smell the news bias

[MU82]

  nice deflection 82, we're talking about covid here-pay attention,  you just can't handle the truth about "your people" mishandling the pandemic because your "media" is depressingly a big propaganda machine that will eventually be the demise of all of us-wake up and smell the news bias

nice deflection rocket, we're talking about covid here-pay attention, you just can't handle the truth about "your mad king" mishandling the pandemic because your "media" is depressingly a big propaganda machine that will eventually be the demise of all of us-wake up and smell the news bias.

[MU82]

From the Washington Post, on heightened COVID-19 concerns, especially in Michigan:

The state most responsible for such alarms right now might be Michigan. The CDC on Tuesday said Michigan led all states in new cases per 100,000 in the previous week. And hospitalizations had surged 53 percent, with 2,144 adults hospitalized, compared with a week earlier.

Cases are multiplying faster than they were last fall, when Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) instituted a "pause to save lives," with measures that included stopping in-person high school classes and banning indoor dining. That intervention prevented more than 100,000 covid cases, a University of Michigan study estimated.

No similar measures have been launched in the Wolverine State this time, but it isn't too late for the governor, with the help of Michiganders, to rein in the rapidly increasing threat.

Is there something about Michigan this is prompting the spike in infections? No, it's the same dynamics happening elsewhere. They just seem to be happening in Michigan first. Restaurants and bars are pushing their permitted 50 percent maximum capacity (capped at 300 patrons).

Much of the clientele in those restaurants appears to young people — and young people are increasingly among the hospitalized in Michigan. From March 5 to March 27, more than half of all covid cases in Michigan were people under age 39. Anecdotally, I can report that people here have lately become much more casual about wearing masks.

It feels as though we haven't learned the lessons of 2020. Or that the sense of coronavirus vaccines coming to the rescue has made us forget those lessons.

But sure ... it's time to party!

[GooooMarquette]

Much of the clientele in those restaurants appears to young people — and young people are increasingly among the hospitalized in Michigan. From March 5 to March 27, more than half of all covid cases in Michigan were people under age 39. Anecdotally, I can report that people here have lately become much more casual about wearing masks.

It feels as though we haven't learned the lessons of 2020. Or that the sense of coronavirus vaccines coming to the rescue has made us forget those lessons.[/i]

The underlined is particularly worrisome. More young people getting hospitalized even than last summer and fall. Not a good time to open things up.

At the very least, we should implement a vaccine passport system if we're going to keep opening things up.

[Jockey]

The underlined is particularly worrisome. More young people getting hospitalized even than last summer and fall. Not a good time to open things up.

At the very least, we should implement a vaccine passport system if we're going to keep opening things up.

Wisconsin 's do-nothing republican Legislature is actually considering meeting - so they can pass a law against vaccine passports.

Right to lifers continuing to demand that more people die.

[tower912]

Indoor youth sports also seem to be a driving force.   Lawsuits to allow wrestlers to participate in state tournaments despite having exposures.   Mensa stuff like that.

[SERocks]

Wisconsin 's do-nothing republican Legislature is actually considering meeting - so they can pass a law against vaccine passports.

Are you serious?  I am so sick of our Legislature.  It is astonishing to me how far the Republican party has gone down the toilet in the last year and a half.

[Billy Hoyle]

My nephew is a junior and just went back to in person s hook in MI (4 hours a day ). He's off next week due to so many classmates doing spring break trips to FL

[pacearrow02]

https://mobile.twitter.com/emilyjanelawler/status/1379086849281564678/photo/1

What's going on in Michigan?!?!?  Tower or anyone with boots on the ground and local perspective, are the majority of these cases in younger population? 

How are hospitalizations trending?

[GooooMarquette]

UK variant is predominant in MI, cases are climbing dramatically, including among school-age children, hospitalizations are increasing dramatically (14-day average up 108%), and deaths are rising (14-day average up 53%).

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/michigan-covid-cases.html

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I find Michigan to be such an odd outlier.  I would think if this were due to variants that we would see similar increases in other states, especially neighboring ones.  But most are either flat or just showing modest increases.

[GooooMarquette]

I find Michigan to be such an odd outlier.  I would think if this were due to variants that we would see similar increases in other states, especially neighboring ones.  But most are either flat or just showing modest increases.

Minnesota is beginning to see similar trends - more cases with kids, wide spread of the B117 variant, increased hospitalizations. Our numbers are trending toward where Michigan was a couple of weeks ago.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I find Michigan to be such an odd outlier.  I would think if this were due to variants that we would see similar increases in other states, especially neighboring ones.  But most are either flat or just showing modest increases.

CT is seeing upward pressure but like you say - not exploding.  There are definitely some of the new variants here and in NE broadly. 

This stuff has randomness to it that we are hesitant to accept.  The best analogy I've heard is flicking match sticks in a dry forest.  You just dont know which one is going to explode even though the potential is certainly there. 

That is what makes all the mitigating factors so important.  Some may abandon them and get lucky but if you stick to it, you have a better chance to blunt the explosion when it happens.

[GooooMarquette]

This stuff has randomness to it that we are hesitant to accept.  The best analogy I've heard is flicking match sticks in a dry forest.  You just dont know which one is going to explode even though the potential is certainly there. 

That's a good analogy. Little things can make a big difference...and we often don't even know what the little things are.

[pacearrow02]

Minnesota is beginning to see similar trends - more cases with kids, wide spread of the B117 variant, increased hospitalizations. Our numbers are trending toward where Michigan was a couple of weeks ago.

Saw an interview with Gottlieb recently that said the vaccines are proving to be very effective against B117. 

Might have mixed up what variant he was speaking too but hoping it proves to be true.  Are the manufacturers currently working on vaccine variants to combat these new strains?

[GooooMarquette]

Saw an interview with Gottlieb recently that said the vaccines are proving to be very effective against B117. 

Might have mixed up what variant he was speaking too but hoping it proves to be true.  Are the manufacturers currently working on vaccine variants to combat these new strains?

Everything I have read supports what you heard from Gottlieb - the vaccines do work very well against the B117 variant. And yes - manufacturers are working on vaccines for the other new variants.

The problem is that the B117 variant spreads very quickly even among younger people, and it often makes them quite sick. That creates concern because most 16-50 year olds still haven't been vaccinated (and it may take a few more months), and kids up to 16 still aren't eligible.

[pacearrow02]

Everything I have read supports what you heard from Gottlieb - the vaccines do work very well against the B117 variant. And yes - manufacturers are working on vaccines for the other new variants.

The problem is that the B117 variant spreads very quickly even among younger people, and it often makes them quite sick. That creates concern because most 16-50 year olds still haven't been vaccinated (and it may take a few more months), and kids up to 16 still aren't eligible.

👍👍

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Thought Big Gretch had the state locked down hard?  What happened?

[tower912]

She caved too soon.

[pacearrow02]

She caved too soon.

Which for her means nothing short of reckless homicide charges, at least I think that's how this game is played.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Which for her means nothing short of reckless homicide charges, at least I think that's how this game is played.

Murder.

[tower912]

Michigan is the canary in the coal mine.   Just like a year ago.   Wait a couple of weeks and everywhere else will start having numbers like Michigan.
Multiple variants.   Being driven by the unvaccinated.   

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

FWIW, the weekend news said the Coronavirus check in sewage in these parts has seen a significant uptick over last week and that's usually an early indicator of what's to come.

[rocket surgeon]

Thought Big Gretch had the state locked down hard?  What happened?

  she was following the big lefauscki and the science, unless ya needed to get your boat out...just kidding, eyn'a wretchin?

[MU82]

  she was following the big lefauscki and the science, unless ya needed to get your boat out...just kidding, eyn'a wretchin?

LIBERATE MICHIGAN!