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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2650 on: May 26, 2020, 11:25:51 PM »
Easily. The coach just doesn't play them.

Could happen, but at the end of the season. Its not like they could transfer somewhere else and play that season. Transfer or not, either way they are sitting out that season if the coach decides they are redshirting.

Doesn't a player have to agree to a redshirt?  Can a coach force a redshirt on a player?
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2651 on: May 27, 2020, 01:06:53 AM »
Doesn't a player have to agree to a redshirt?  Can a coach force a redshirt on a player?

I'm not aware of a rule allowing players to check themselves into a game. If a coach never plays the player, they retain the year of eligibility.

I would say most (all?) coaches tell the players in advanced if they are planning to redshirt them. I would also say many (most?) give players at least some say in the decision. But those decisions don't typically get made until well after the fall semester has started....which closes the door on the player transferring to another school and playing that season. They may choose to transfer out of anger/frustration for being redshirtted, but they will have to wait until next season to play, even if the NCAA votes to get rid of the mandatory redshirt year.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2652 on: May 27, 2020, 11:40:14 AM »
Doesn't a player have to agree to a redshirt?  Can a coach force a redshirt on a player?
I would think a coach not playing a player is a pretty good indication the player should transfer.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2653 on: May 27, 2020, 11:46:26 AM »
Disagree akanno n sacar could grad transfer for there 4th yr of ball n not sit out
That was only in their last year and they had to actually of gotten their degree. Redshirt Oso this year and if the free transfer passes he can transfer next year without any penalty. Now you have a year's investment in a player who never plays for your team and another team benefits from your investment year.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2654 on: May 27, 2020, 12:21:40 PM »
Doesn't a player have to agree to a redshirt?  Can a coach force a redshirt on a player?

they can. They simply tell them "you're not playing this year and here's why." If the player disagrees they can transfer but in the end, the coach has the final say. Usually, it's due to A) the need for development or B) where they are on the depth chart. Of course, a redshirt can come off at any time due to injuries or attrition during the season.

A recent rule change allows a redshirt due to a coach's decision to count towards one of the two denied participation opportunities for a sixth-year extension of eligibility.

Oh, and Rony Eford used to check himself into games when he played for KO.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2655 on: May 27, 2020, 12:24:14 PM »
That was only in their last year and they had to actually of gotten their degree. Redshirt Oso this year and if the free transfer passes he can transfer next year without any penalty. Now you have a year's investment in a player who never plays for your team and another team benefits from your investment year.

Why would any kid want to redshirt nowadays.  I can see a player in the 300's or worse who's best offer is to let say MU, ie. Akanno.  If he wants to play at a big school
then why not.  Now that Akanno will be a redshirt frosh and does not play a ton of minutes.  Good bye.  No way Oso redshirts, if that was the case, he might as well gone
to LMU and played right away.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2656 on: May 27, 2020, 12:42:13 PM »
Why would any kid want to redshirt nowadays.  I can see a player in the 300's or worse who's best offer is to let say MU, ie. Akanno.  If he wants to play at a big school
then why not.  Now that Akanno will be a redshirt frosh and does not play a ton of minutes.  Good bye.  No way Oso redshirts, if that was the case, he might as well gone
to LMU and played right away.

Wow, what an awful take.  Now that BB is gone I think it's unlikely that Oso redshirts, but it's certainly still a possibility.  Players can choose to redshirt for a multitude of reasons.  Wojo has hinted that Oso needs to put on weight.  Rivals lists him at 6-9 190, there's most definitely a scenario where Wojo sells that Oso is a big part of the future and once Jamal leaves, he'll have every chance to compete for a starting spot, but that he needs to get stronger to do so. 

This is also another situation where Stan is overvalued.  I'm sure he helped get Wojo in the door and helped along the way, but if Oso wasn't sold on Wojo, he wouldn't have committed.  If Stan were as key a you insinuate, Oso would be at Texas, Stanford, Arizona, or one of the other high majors that offered him, rather than MU or LMU.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2657 on: May 27, 2020, 12:59:00 PM »
Wow, what an awful take.  Now that BB is gone I think it's unlikely that Oso redshirts, but it's certainly still a possibility.  Players can choose to redshirt for a multitude of reasons.  Wojo has hinted that Oso needs to put on weight.  Rivals lists him at 6-9 190, there's most definitely a scenario where Wojo sells that Oso is a big part of the future and once Jamal leaves, he'll have every chance to compete for a starting spot, but that he needs to get stronger to do so. 

This is also another situation where Stan is overvalued.  I'm sure he helped get Wojo in the door and helped along the way, but if Oso wasn't sold on Wojo, he wouldn't have committed.  If Stan were as key a you insinuate, Oso would be at Texas, Stanford, Arizona, or one of the other high majors that offered him, rather than MU or LMU.

Normal times and teams that are loaded with players, then Oso might be a candidate if he wanted to.  But with only 9 players for sure playing next year, no way.  Carton I think will play but not sure on Perez. 

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« Reply #2658 on: May 27, 2020, 01:06:53 PM »
Normal times and teams that are loaded with players, then Oso might be a candidate if he wanted to.  But with only 9 players for sure playing next year, no way.  Carton I think will play but not sure on Perez.

The point is that players choose to redshirt based on more than just

  I can see a player in the 300's or worse who's best offer is to let say MU, ie. Akanno.  If he wants to play at a big school then why not. 

Not being ready physically certainly qualifies as a reason to potentially redshirt. 

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2659 on: May 27, 2020, 02:29:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/McclungMac/status/1265722767590207494

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« Reply #2660 on: May 27, 2020, 02:40:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/McclungMac/status/1265722767590207494

Guru's head can now officially resume exploding.

No, I actually 100% support what Beard is doing, and actually am quite jealous. Wish MU could/would do more of that. Bringing in better players than the one's they are replacing, which is a Coach's job. He wasn't pleased with the season they had last year so he's doing something about it...upgrading the talent level..I applaud him.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2661 on: May 27, 2020, 02:41:33 PM »
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Memphis
Texas Tech  8-)
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Ohio State
Oregon
Georgia Tech
Samford
UCLA
Auburn

Arguably the top available transfer. Averaged 14.5 points and 4.5 rebounds last season.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2662 on: May 27, 2020, 03:08:48 PM »
No, I actually 100% support what Beard is doing, and actually am quite jealous. Wish MU could/would do more of that. Bringing in better players than the one's they are replacing, which is a Coach's job. He wasn't pleased with the season they had last year so he's doing something about it...upgrading the talent level..I applaud him.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2663 on: May 27, 2020, 03:11:53 PM »
Moooooooo

You're so mature...I noticed you couldn't respond to the fact that you also are being entertained by them, because you know it's true. Yet you sit and bitch continuously and denigrate me for being entertained by college kids that are being treated like "cattle".

By the way son, just an FYI, you haven't been on this earth long enough to have the smart mouth on you that you do. Some advice, if you're mouthy like that in real life like you are here with responses on most everything, it's going to end up bad for you eventually. If you're not, then you shouldn't be here either, it's called being a phony.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2664 on: May 27, 2020, 03:12:21 PM »
Waivers have apparently started...

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« Reply #2665 on: May 27, 2020, 03:31:59 PM »
Waivers have apparently started...

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Not sure how Juzang gets one and Carton doesn't. 
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2666 on: May 27, 2020, 04:00:47 PM »
Not sure how Juzang gets one and Carton doesn't.

I would agree, I'm sure Juzang's was because he went back home(he's from LA), but then the same can be said about DJ(closer to home), never mind his mental health issues. I had no idea they even worked on waivers this early. I just assumed they didn't start those until school returned. I wonder if MU has applied already for DJ.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2667 on: May 27, 2020, 04:08:40 PM »
You're so mature...I noticed you couldn't respond to the fact that you also are being entertained by them, because you know it's true. Yet you sit and bitch continuously and denigrate me for being entertained by college kids that are being treated like "cattle".

By the way son, just an FYI, you haven't been on this earth long enough to have the smart mouth on you that you do. Some advice, if you're mouthy like that in real life like you are here with responses on most everything, it's going to end up bad for you eventually. If you're not, then you shouldn't be here either, it's called being a phony.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2668 on: May 27, 2020, 05:29:55 PM »
Virginia Tech transfer PJ Horne has committed to #UGA. 6-foot-7 forward who averaged 7.6 points per game last year for the Hokies. Georgia native from Tift County
Per Dan McDonald retweeted by Jeff Goodman

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« Reply #2669 on: May 27, 2020, 08:34:58 PM »
I would agree, I'm sure Juzang's was because he went back home(he's from LA), but then the same can be said about DJ(closer to home), never mind his mental health issues. I had no idea they even worked on waivers this early. I just assumed they didn't start those until school returned. I wonder if MU has applied already for DJ.
I believe in the past they worked on football eligibility first, so that delayed basketball transfer decisions.

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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2670 on: May 27, 2020, 08:39:01 PM »
I would agree, I'm sure Juzang's was because he went back home(he's from LA), but then the same can be said about DJ(closer to home), never mind his mental health issues. I had no idea they even worked on waivers this early. I just assumed they didn't start those until school returned. I wonder if MU has applied already for DJ.

There is no set time. Most schools start them immediately upon the signing of a transfer.
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Re: Transfer portal
« Reply #2671 on: May 28, 2020, 08:05:56 AM »
Virginia Tech transfer PJ Horne has committed to #UGA. 6-foot-7 forward who averaged 7.6 points per game last year for the Hokies. Georgia native from Tift County
Per Dan McDonald retweeted by Jeff Goodman

Interesting... will play for both Buzz & Crean

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« Reply #2672 on: May 28, 2020, 08:14:46 AM »
Interesting... will play for both Buzz & Crean

Definitely grad transferring here then
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« Reply #2673 on: May 28, 2020, 08:18:01 AM »
Definitely grad transferring here then

LOL he's already a grad transfer
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« Reply #2674 on: May 28, 2020, 08:42:20 AM »
LOL he's already a grad transfer

Lol oops, I need coffee.
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