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Author Topic: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?  (Read 36229 times)

WhiteTrash

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #200 on: March 19, 2020, 01:50:22 PM »
In the decade prior it included three years of no NCAA bids, two of which had no postseason at all, and several no NCAA tournament wins. It included one conference co-championship with the 12th toughest Big East schedule.  When Coach Wojo arrived we were an average program that finished in the second tier, the coach left under the new administration rules, and we started over. 

Don’t mess with happy is repeated here.  He left because of changes in whom he was allowed to recruit apparently.  Coach Wojo doesn’t have access to that happiness either, but 3 out of 4 NCAA bids anyway.

Here is a stat line since year 6 is used in this topic.

Year 6
Coach Wojo NCAA berth
Coach Williams no post season
Coach Crean NIT berth
This post is nothing but a stupid jab at MU fans and trying to get a rise out of us. Guessing its a badger fan.

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #201 on: March 20, 2020, 07:53:27 AM »
I consider a class 5 years with redshirts, etc., rather than 4 FWIW.

10 teams in league - average program should win 1 every 10 years. So an above-average program should win it/tie for it twice every 10 years, or once per class.

10 teams in league - 2 make title game every year. So an average program should make the title game every 5 years. So an above-average team should make it once or twice per class.
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #202 on: March 20, 2020, 09:22:24 AM »
I consider a class 5 years with redshirts, etc., rather than 4 FWIW.

10 teams in league - average program should win 1 every 10 years. So an above-average program should win it/tie for it twice every 10 years, or once per class.

10 teams in league - 2 make title game every year. So an average program should make the title game every 5 years. So an above-average team should make it once or twice per class.

Lol.

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #203 on: March 20, 2020, 09:23:43 AM »
When Coach Wojo arrived we were an average program

Cheeks

When “Coach Wojo” arrived here we had been in the same conference as Georgetown, Villanova, Providence and Seton Hall for 9 years. Our record in that conference was better than Georgetown and Villanova and light years better than Providence and Seton Hall. Under “Coach Wojo” our record has been light years worse than Villanova and worse than Providence and Seton Hall. The only “positive” is Georgetown’s fall has been more precipitous than ours. Hooray!

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #204 on: March 20, 2020, 09:31:39 AM »
I consider a class 5 years with redshirts, etc., rather than 4 FWIW.

10 teams in league - average program should win 1 every 10 years. So an above-average program should win it/tie for it twice every 10 years, or once per class.

10 teams in league - 2 make title game every year. So an average program should make the title game every 5 years. So an above-average team should make it once or twice per class.

Huh? That's some unique analysis. by this logic we were a well below average Big East team from 06-12... despite two sweet 16s, a second place finish, 6 tournament appearances, three years making the top 10. But hey no BET finals and no BE Regular season trophy means below average.
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #205 on: March 20, 2020, 09:41:09 AM »
Huh? That's some unique analysis. by this logic we were a below average Big East team from 06-12... despite two sweet 16s, a second place finish, 6 tournament appearances, three years making the top 10. But hey no BET finals and no BE Regular season trophy means below average.

Yep.

I say that if in Year 1, 2, 3, 6 and 11, a coach hasn't won an NCAA tournament game, he is below average.

Ipso fatso, Al was a below average coach.
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #206 on: March 20, 2020, 10:10:14 AM »
Yep.

I say that if in Year 1, 2, 3, 6 and 11, a coach hasn't won an NCAA tournament game, he is below average.

Ipso fatso, Al was a below average coach.

How many teams were in the tournament in 1974?

MU82

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #207 on: March 20, 2020, 06:48:22 PM »
How many teams were in the tournament in 1974?

Doesn't matter. Just gotta cherry-pick a number of years and create a narrative.

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #208 on: March 20, 2020, 07:12:12 PM »
The ‘Crappy Coach Store’ called...said they’re running out of Wojo.

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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #209 on: March 20, 2020, 07:30:54 PM »
The ‘Crappy Coach Store’ called...said they’re running out of Wojo.

That was super creative! And relevant to the time.
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #210 on: March 21, 2020, 02:34:35 PM »
Cheeks

When “Coach Wojo” arrived here we had been in the same conference as Georgetown, Villanova, Providence and Seton Hall for 9 years. Our record in that conference was better than Georgetown and Villanova and light years better than Providence and Seton Hall. Under “Coach Wojo” our record has been light years worse than Villanova and worse than Providence and Seton Hall. The only “positive” is Georgetown’s fall has been more precipitous than ours. Hooray!

What's a Cheeks?
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #211 on: March 21, 2020, 03:53:00 PM »
This post is nothing but a stupid jab at MU fans and trying to get a rise out of us. Guessing its a badger fan.

You guessed incorrectly.  Funny story, when my oldest applied to Wisconsin years ago I said good luck paying for it on your own.  Ultimately we would have paid for it, but the thought made me ill.
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Re: 6 Seasons in the Books. Wojo's grade?
« Reply #212 on: March 21, 2020, 05:56:34 PM »
What's a Cheeks?

A sharp, persistent pain in the ass.