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JakeBarnes

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2020, 10:16:05 AM »
If the floor becomes an issue again, I hope MU pulls the team off the floor. That game two years ago was a total farce.

Agreed. That was a ridiculous game. But then again, this is a game against providence, so weird things happen. My prediction? Johnathan Xavier runs on the court dressed as a bat and chucks ice cubes at the players.
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2020, 10:29:58 AM »
I don't really give a rat's arse what place we finish in the Big East. There's the regular season champs and 9 runner ups.


So DePaul is a perennial runner up in the Big East. Who knew?

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2020, 10:34:52 AM »
So DePaul is a perennial runner up in the Big East. Who knew?

Sounds like a line from JLP's year end assessment
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2020, 10:54:42 AM »
So DePaul is a perennial runner up in the Big East. Who knew?

Pretty much. Unless you are proposing we start hanging banners for 2nd place Big East finishes
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2020, 11:08:40 AM »
Thanks! I like to think that my posts bring a sort of panache to the board that typically isn't on the board. In a world full of sh*tting on things rather than providing rationality, I think it brightens people's day.

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2020, 12:59:34 PM »
Conference finish is not a part of the selection committee's criteria.

I understand that.  Wins do matter though.  The more wins you have the higher the seed.    The more wins you have against good (conference) opponents the higher the seed. This will also lead to higher conference standing.  By saying you don’t care where we finish in our conference means something only if you don’t care about more wins and better seeds.  You may not like how it’s stated or phrased and you are correct conference place is not a specific criteria for the committee in the most literal sense but all of it leads to the same goal.  Not sure why there can be debate about this basic fact.  If we are finish .500 in conference and say sixth place this year our seed will be worse than if we finish 11-7 or 10-8 and fourth or fifth. You should only care about conference place as it relates to that. Nothing more.  Just another way for someone to look at wins and losses and seed potential.

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2020, 01:11:21 PM »
Pretty much. Unless you are proposing we start hanging banners for 2nd place Big East finishes

No banners, but I disagree with the idea that almost ever year there’s a Villanova and 9 DePauls.

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2020, 01:43:59 PM »
No banners, but I disagree with the idea that almost ever year there’s a Villanova and 9 DePauls.

Personally, I just don't care where we finish if it's between 2nd and 6th, especially this year. Finish the year 3-2 and we'll set ourselves up for a solid seed regardless of how Butler, PC, or any of the rest of the teams surrounding us perform.

Winning the conference is obviously meaningful. It's also important to avoid the bottom four so we don't have to play on the first night in NYC. Other than that, I don't care much.

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2020, 01:46:29 PM »
Gus, Donny and Katz on the call.  I wonder how badly Donny tries to malign Markus?

https://gomarquette.com/documents/2020/2/20//Marquette_Game_Notes_Providence2_2_22.pdf

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2020, 02:31:52 PM »
So DePaul is a perennial runner up in the Big East. Who knew?


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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2020, 02:59:44 PM »
Forget it Jake, it's Scooptown.

Fair point. I'll fall in line.

I can't believe Player X is even a D1 athlete. He should be getting less minutes than Player Y, who has been completely underutilized.

With terrible players like this, I will only be satisfied if Marquette goes undefeated for the next 10 seasons. Anything less is horseapples.
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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2020, 03:26:33 PM »
The first round game in the NCAA tournament is a must-win.  Nothing else leading up to that is a must-win, unless you're shooting for a conference championship, or a top-2 in the conference finish, etc.

Beyond that, if your goal is at least a Sweet-16, then the 2nd round NCAA game is also a must-win.
Rightttt..and we know MU is not shooting for a conference champ  or top 2.

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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2020, 03:33:57 PM »
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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2020, 03:34:37 PM »
It’s a different year.  Each year is different.  SMH
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2020, 04:02:55 PM »
Such Pearl's of wisdom.

Thanks!  Who do you want to be the new coach of Marquette?  Who are your top 3 choices?
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2020, 05:26:36 PM »
Thanks!  Who do you want to be the new coach of Marquette?  Who are your top 3 choices?
Based on capitalization and use of the possessive, he wants Bruce Pearl.

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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2020, 07:39:59 PM »
I understand that.  Wins do matter though.  The more wins you have the higher the seed.    The more wins you have against good (conference) opponents the higher the seed. This will also lead to higher conference standing.  By saying you don’t care where we finish in our conference means something only if you don’t care about more wins and better seeds.  You may not like how it’s stated or phrased and you are correct conference place is not a specific criteria for the committee in the most literal sense but all of it leads to the same goal.  Not sure why there can be debate about this basic fact.  If we are finish .500 in conference and say sixth place this year our seed will be worse than if we finish 11-7 or 10-8 and fourth or fifth. You should only care about conference place as it relates to that. Nothing more.  Just another way for someone to look at wins and losses and seed potential.

I mean if you said wins matter, I would of course agree. I just think focusing on what place you are in a conference is silly. Conference strength varies from year to year, for example I think this year's fiftth place team would beat last year's first place team on a neutral court more times than not. You could have years where a 10 win team is in the bottom 4 and years where a 6 win team is in the top 4 (both of those scenarios are extremely unlikely but mathematically possible).

In other words, I think focusing on what place a team finishes in conference is in the same vein as judging a pitcher by how many wins they have. A lot of people do it, doesn't mean its an accurate measure.
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Re: Tough game at Providence next
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2020, 10:52:53 PM »
Fair enough.  TAMU I appreciate your posts.

 

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