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Author Topic: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!  (Read 10674 times)

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2020, 04:22:03 PM »
The most promising thing about the Georgetown game is that Wojo is reading MUScoop, fouling up 3 under 10 seconds.

With our armchair coaching finally happening on-court, the sky is the limit.

Made me nervous that Howard picked up his 4th foul to do it. The box out was outstanding on the ensuing free throw. Theo and Bailey had great box outs on their guys towards the baseline, and Sacar and Koby filled the gap. The only way we weren't going to get that rebound was a long one. Well executed.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2020, 04:42:22 PM »
Different situation with the play starting with under 10 seconds left. Even today I think the foul came too quickly. Opponent was nowhere near the three point and was moving laterally. Think Markus could have let a couple of more ticks come off the clock. Worked out though
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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2020, 05:18:30 PM »
Different situation with the play starting with under 10 seconds left. Even today I think the foul came too quickly. Opponent was nowhere near the three point and was moving laterally. Think Markus could have let a couple of more ticks come off the clock. Worked out though

I thought so too. I think in that time out Ewing anticipated that MU would foul and he told Mosely to dribble it out to get fouled quickly. It just seemed like Mosely was dribbling East-West there waiting for the hack.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2020, 05:38:32 PM »
Made me nervous that Howard picked up his 4th foul to do it. The box out was outstanding on the ensuing free throw. Theo and Bailey had great box outs on their guys towards the baseline, and Sacar and Koby filled the gap. The only way we weren't going to get that rebound was a long one. Well executed.

Picking up his fourth foul with 5 seconds to play is no big deal. Sure, it could backfire if there's OT, but the odds are slim. I didn't mind it at all myself. I was actually happy to see us have a clear plan in that scenario. It seemed obvious that Wojo wanted to foul, and we executed right away. Well done.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2020, 05:49:49 PM »
Picking up his fourth foul with 5 seconds to play is no big deal. Sure, it could backfire if there's OT, but the odds are slim. I didn't mind it at all myself. I was actually happy to see us have a clear plan in that scenario. It seemed obvious that Wojo wanted to foul, and we executed right away. Well done.

It was the right play today, and it would've been the winning play against Providence.  The reason why having Howard pick up his 4th foul is no big deal is because OT is such a slim possibility.  Have your smartest player foul the opposing team near half court, where there's almost no chance of fouling a shooter, and you will rarely be disappointed.

We are 1 foul from being 4-2 in conference. 

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2020, 05:57:41 PM »
It was the right play today, and it would've been the winning play against Providence.  The reason why having Howard pick up his 4th foul is no big deal is because OT is such a slim possibility.  Have your smartest player foul the opposing team near half court, where there's almost no chance of fouling a shooter, and you will rarely be disappointed.

We are 1 foul from being 4-2 in conference.

One of the biggest advocates for fouling in these late game situation, but this isn't true.  We are 1 well executed foul, plus one well executed box out, plus one rebound, plus at least 2 made free throws away from being 4-2 in conference.  Straight up, the percentages say that it is a toss-up, but as stated earlier in the thread, I'm always in favor of putting the game in our players hands, rather than the other teams players. 

Well executed end of game situation today.  Props to Wojo, he made the right call.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2020, 06:47:49 PM »
Agreed. Which is why I don’t under why some on scoop say..”well if a poor 3 point shooter hits that shot to tie the game...all you can do is tip your cap.” What? Illogical.
No. Take a 25% 3 point shooter out of the equation. Hell, take a 1% 3 point shooter out of the equation. Also, don’t understand why you would go under the double screens and trail the shooter when you are up 3 points, and the only way they tie is a 3 pointer.  No 3s.
That means NO 3s. Love seeing the approach today. Grabbed the win....didn’t allow Georgetown a chance.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2020, 07:02:46 PM »
Been saying this for years and not changing now.  Still believe that is the right play and hate when coaches let one shot tie a game.  I know this is a split decision on this, but the math never made sense to me.

Allow one shot to tie a game....OR....require someone to make one shot, miss one shot, get rebound and make a shot.

I don’t care who the coach is, I am fouling every time and have never wavered on this.
Agreed. Today Mu fouled too soon. Believe there was about 6 seconds left when the foul was called at about 30 feet from basket.
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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2020, 07:03:35 PM »
Providence was worse from the line than us

PS- disagree on fouling up 3. It depends.
On what?
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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2020, 07:56:47 PM »
On what?

I think it's situational, but has nothing to do with the opponent, and everything to do with our roster makeup.  For example, Zar and the midgets, not sure I would trust them to be able to get the board after the missed ft.  Any team with JFB, I'd trust him to absolutely shut down any attempt.  Some of Buzz's not so good shooting teams, wouldn't trust to be able to hit the fts.  This team, it would take some very unique foul trouble/fouling out situation for me to not want to go for the foul.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2020, 08:28:03 PM »
I would still do it, regardless of a good rebounding team, etc.
There has to be stats on this situation.
% of games lost when up three and leading team fouls under 10 seconds.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2020, 10:00:28 PM »
One of the biggest advocates for fouling in these late game situation, but this isn't true.  We are 1 well executed foul, plus one well executed box out, plus one rebound, plus at least 2 made free throws away from being 4-2 in conference.  Straight up, the percentages say that it is a toss-up, but as stated earlier in the thread, I'm always in favor of putting the game in our players hands, rather than the other teams players. 

Well executed end of game situation today.  Props to Wojo, he made the right call.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2020, 11:04:23 PM »

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2020, 09:44:00 PM »
Bump, it's on wojo

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2020, 09:45:13 PM »
Not only that, but Xavier can't hit FTs to save their lives.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2020, 09:45:17 PM »
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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2020, 09:49:50 PM »
Torrance did foul. Unfortunately the refs didn’t call it before he handed off to Marshall for the shot. Good job by Torrance not to stay committed to the foul and catch a potential four-point play

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2020, 09:52:25 PM »
He did not foul.  There was no attempt even for a mild reach in.   

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2020, 09:53:15 PM »
He did not foul.  There was no attempt even for a mild reach in.   

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2020, 09:53:59 PM »
Torrance did foul. Unfortunately the refs didn’t call it before he handed off to Marshall for the shot. Good job by Torrance not to stay committed to the foul and catch a potential four-point play

This. The problem in the execution was how late the foul was going to come.  If you're going to foul in that situation, you've got to pick your player up somewhere in the backcourt and the foul needs to come two steps after midcourt.

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Re: Up 3 end of game....FOUL!!!
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2020, 10:27:50 PM »
Symir bumped with no call.   
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