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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #352 on: February 20, 2020, 04:04:56 PM »
So not a crapshoot...mostly.
There’s a chance!

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #353 on: February 20, 2020, 04:15:54 PM »
Auburn would kick the living sh*t out of Marquette.
Wait, what? Auburn is grossly overrated this year. They would be a gift for MU.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #354 on: February 20, 2020, 04:32:41 PM »
Wait, what? Auburn is grossly overrated this year. They would be a gift for MU.

Eh. I agree they are overrated and not great but also agree with 12 that their personnel would give MU fits. I'm not sure we'd score much.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #355 on: February 21, 2020, 08:45:08 AM »

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #356 on: February 21, 2020, 08:45:37 AM »

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #357 on: February 21, 2020, 09:26:35 AM »
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Holy crap this would be bad.

ETSU is one of the best mid-major teams outside of Gonzaga and SDSU.  Then Florida St's length?  We'd be toast.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #358 on: February 21, 2020, 10:37:59 AM »
I hate the fact that this is the second year in a row, I have to be nervous as a 5/6 seed in the first round. Unreal.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #359 on: February 21, 2020, 10:53:21 AM »
I hate the fact that this is the second year in a row, I have to be nervous as a 5/6 seed in the first round. Unreal.

Yeah it's frustrating, never been here before. Not during that stretch from 06-11. Nope we were better than 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11. And never had to be nervous because we kept getting certain second weekend appearances.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #360 on: February 21, 2020, 10:56:49 AM »
NBC Bracketville has MU as a 7 seed. They have consistently been one of the outlets that has MU a slightly worse seed than some others.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #361 on: February 21, 2020, 11:00:19 AM »
Yeah it's frustrating, never been here before. Not during that stretch from 06-11. Nope we were better than 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11. And never had to be nervous because we kept getting certain second weekend appearances.
06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.


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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #362 on: February 21, 2020, 11:08:04 AM »
06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.

Why're you including 12 and 13? I didn't mention those.

And why is 10 the only bad one? If you're a 7 or 8 seed are you not supposed to win as you're the higher seed?

I'm just saying, maybe wait till the tournament because given your posting history these past couple years you were likely flipping a sh*t about 2011 but now you're perfectly content with that season let alone 06, 07, 08, 09. Who's to say it won't be the same?
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #363 on: February 21, 2020, 11:22:08 AM »
Why're you including 12 and 13? I didn't mention those.

And why is 10 the only bad one? If you're a 7 or 8 seed are you not supposed to win as you're the higher seed?

I'm just saying, maybe wait till the tournament because given your posting history these past couple years you were likely flipping a sh*t about 2011 but now you're perfectly content with that season let alone 06, 07, 08, 09. Who's to say it won't be the same?
I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #364 on: February 21, 2020, 11:29:49 AM »
06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.

FWIW, we only over performed our seed twice in those 8 years (2011 and 13), played to seed three times (08, 09, and '12), and underperformed our seed three times (06, 07, and '10).

Under Wojo we've underperformed once ('19) and performed to seed once ('17).  We're due to over-perform once now!

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #365 on: February 21, 2020, 11:37:00 AM »
Yeah I’m with Galway. Why weren’t you upset when we were a 7 and lost j in n the first round.

Your goalposts kinda moved after your original statement.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #366 on: February 21, 2020, 11:38:27 AM »
I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.

Idk how one seed line can be "much closer" to being a crapshoot, but if that's what you want...

I expect us to not worry about it as well, but I reiterate my point about seeing how it plays out since we hovered around this same point seed wise for 6/8 years of that run. It seems like you've resigned this season as no tournament wins before the tournament even begins.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #367 on: February 21, 2020, 11:40:35 AM »
NBC Bracketville has MU as a 7 seed. They have consistently been one of the outlets that has MU a slightly worse seed than some others.
i would love to play Virginia first round and see Sam on the bench not being able to do anything while Howard scores 60

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #368 on: February 21, 2020, 11:49:33 AM »
i would love to play Virginia first round and see Sam on the bench not being able to do anything while Howard scores 60

And Markus passes the ball to Sam on the bench as the clock runs out and we go on to victory.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #369 on: February 21, 2020, 11:50:39 AM »
I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.
5 seeds win 64% of the time
6 seeds win 63% of the time
7 seeds win 61% of the time

1. Apparently 61% is "much closer" to being a crapshoot than 63%.
2. Every 5, 6, or 7 seed is worried about losing. 10-12 seeds are good teams (37-48 overall, in theory). They collectively win 37% of their first round games. Do you really think #24 (last 6) is a lock to beat #41 (first 11) on a neutral court?

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #370 on: February 21, 2020, 12:06:42 PM »
Are people aware that in the NCAA tournament you have to play a diffrent ncca tournament team?

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #371 on: February 21, 2020, 02:22:19 PM »
Are people aware that in the NCAA tournament you have to play a diffrent ncca tournament team?
What? Are you sure?!

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« Reply #372 on: February 21, 2020, 02:23:04 PM »
5 seeds win 64% of the time
6 seeds win 63% of the time
7 seeds win 61% of the time

1. Apparently 61% is "much closer" to being a crapshoot than 63%.
2. Every 5, 6, or 7 seed is worried about losing. 10-12 seeds are good teams (37-48 overall, in theory). They collectively win 37% of their first round games. Do you really think #24 (last 6) is a lock to beat #41 (first 11) on a neutral court?
#crapshoot

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #373 on: February 21, 2020, 03:30:42 PM »
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2876930-how-much-does-seeding-really-matter-in-the-mens-ncaa-tournament

Solid read.

Thanks Very Good.

I have always dreaded the 8,9 seed because of that second game against almost certainly a #1.  I would rather be a 10,11,12.

Sweet 16 is really my hope for MU. E8 is just dreamy frosting.

I think this article sort of suports that. 9's dont get to the s16 like 10,11s   and the only good thing about the 8 seed is their relatively positive chance at the e8 if they make it to s16.

So avoid 8,9.....my preferred seed for MU:  1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12,11,10,8,9

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #374 on: February 22, 2020, 08:45:14 PM »
34, 35, 39, 41, 42 and 46 on Bracketville s curve all lost, for anyone irrationally worried about Marquette's spot in the tournament. We'll lock a bid up on Wednesday.

 

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