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Author Topic: Skipping the big game  (Read 14965 times)

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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2020, 07:20:21 PM »
Ignorance is bliss.

LOL.  Yup, every Gallup poll since 2003...if we only knew what was really going on behind the numbers.

Coincidentally non Gallup polls on the same subject show the same thing...but only if knew.

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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2020, 07:22:48 PM »
LOL.  Yup, every Gallup poll since 2003...if we only knew what was really going on behind the numbers.

Coincidentally non Gallup polls on the same subject show the same thing...but only if knew.

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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2020, 07:35:50 PM »
"My worst, my absolute worst about me came on this message board….and for that I apologize to you. The desire to be right all the time, push buttons, get the last word in, etc.  Just not good... UGH. Embarrassing."  --Jams

Just another thing he was lying about.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #103 on: January 02, 2020, 08:42:57 AM »
Just another thing he was lying about.

Lol.  I give what I get here.  For someone like you, who always has to have the last word as well, to pontificate on this is funny.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #104 on: January 02, 2020, 01:45:29 PM »
These guys are going to play in a game with their argument that they protecting millions in future revenues for a much smaller amount from NIL?

Depends on what their NIL contracts say. If they have to appear in the bowl games as part of the agreement then yes they would or they'd be in breach.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #105 on: January 02, 2020, 03:14:07 PM »
Depends on what their NIL contracts say. If they have to appear in the bowl games as part of the agreement then yes they would or they'd be in breach.

NIL isn’t the relevant doc here.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #106 on: January 02, 2020, 03:57:41 PM »
NIL isn’t the relevant doc here.

Sure it is, if we want to fix this. Your argument is that the scholarship agreement requires their participation....it does not otherwise it's conditional which make them university employees which as has been repeated ad nauseum (correctly) in the eyes of the law SAs are not employees.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2020, 04:13:45 PM »
Depends on what their NIL contracts say. If they have to appear in the bowl games as part of the agreement then yes they would or they'd be in breach.

And they will say so what, the amount of money at risk of injury vs what they would get from NIL is no comparison.  That's why I don't see how your argument holds water.  NIL isn't going to stop these guys from sitting out.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2020, 04:18:14 PM »
You probably believe that. Sad!

No, when he played in the senior bowl after quitting on his team.

when you're the least famous of your brothers maybe he felt he had no choice...unless he wanted to quit football to be a "youtube celebrity" whose talent is convincing others you have talent instead of taking a beating on a weekly basis.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2020, 07:53:59 PM »

Hi, I am not good at reading comprehension
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2020, 08:13:01 PM »
No, and I'm not sure you know what an NLI is. First, it's not required. Second, it's relevant for one year and that's it.

My argument is that NCAA bylaws allow a school to revoke athletic aid if a kid voluntarily quits. That's just factual.

Isn't he talking about NIL, not NLI?
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2020, 08:14:16 PM »
No, and I'm not sure you know what an NLI is. First, it's not required. Second, it's relevant for one year and that's it.

Reading would be helpful. He said NIL (name, image, likeness) not NLI.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2020, 08:15:30 PM »
My argument is that NCAA bylaws allow a school to revoke athletic aid if a kid voluntarily quits. That's just factual.

Not if they skip a bowl game.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #113 on: January 02, 2020, 08:35:36 PM »
Isn't he talking about NIL, not NLI?

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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #114 on: January 03, 2020, 06:42:49 AM »
And they will say so what, the amount of money at risk of injury vs what they would get from NIL is no comparison.  That's why I don't see how your argument holds water.  NIL isn't going to stop these guys from sitting out.

Simple contract law, if the "advertisement" agreement I sign as part of my NIL with the local car dealership includes the requirement that I participate in all relevant games(as an example) and then I willfully sit out one of those said games I'm in breach of contract and all the money I earned can be taken away via lawsuit.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2020, 06:47:01 AM »
Simple contract law, if the "advertisement" agreement I sign as part of my NIL with the local car dealership includes the requirement that I participate in all relevant games(as an example) and then I willfully sit out one of those said games I'm in breach of contract and all the money I earned can be taken away via lawsuit.

Keep in mind, the kids we are talking about sitting out bowl games are also the kids that are going to get the biggest contracts under NIL provisions if available. So having that money plus the hassle of legal action if they sit out is likely to be more than enough to get them back into the games that don't actually matter that we all watch like lemmings. Yes the NIL contracts won't be nearly as big as the NFL contracts but they are certainly something more than the nothing burger they currently get to play a meaningless game.
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Re: Skipping the big game
« Reply #116 on: January 03, 2020, 09:29:32 AM »
Simple contract law, if the "advertisement" agreement I sign as part of my NIL with the local car dealership includes the requirement that I participate in all relevant games(as an example) and then I willfully sit out one of those said games I'm in breach of contract and all the money I earned can be taken away via lawsuit.

Understand completely, but what I am saying is “all that money” from the local car dealership will pale in comparison to the risk / reward calculus he will do and will happily breach IMO. 
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