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Author Topic: Remember when the Wojo defenders asked if we'd rather have the DePaul program?  (Read 12854 times)

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Yet ners is back on his (at least) third name after his first two were permabanned and didn't even bother wasting any time pretending he could do anything other than bring up the same old (laughable) arguments.


What Scoop needs is more super fans like you Without Bias!  Please continue to regal all of us with your intuitions like this (laughable) gem:

And Dawson looks much more interested in his phone than in anything else. Yikes. Didn’t announce his visit like he did the others on Twitter just retweeted something from his high school.

Not feeling good right now.

The biggest thing Dawson seems to like about Indiana is all the attention their fan base has given him.  He shares all the stories IU fans post on Instagram about him being at IU (and does the same for the other schools like Memphis and Minnesota, it just happens less from those fans), shares Tweets from other fan bases, etc.  Let's show this kid some love.  To me this is the biggest swing recruit in the Wojo era.  If we land him I think this program can take off.  If we don't I think we stay at the level we've been seeing the last few years.  If we land Garcia I think we'll have a real shot at Brown for 2021 and Mane for 2020.  And if we land those two look out.

Not saying be a creep and try to hunt him out based on where he's Tweeting from, but I'm guessing he'll share some Instagram pictures in a Marquette uniform (he's done so with the other 3 finalists).  Put those in your stories and let him know he's wanted here.  He seems to genuinely enjoy that kind of love and hopefully Marquette fans can make an impression on him this weekend.

Yea for you buddy!  All scoopers should show you some love for waging the social media campaign that secured Dawson's commitment.  Laughable.  Your other posts are mostly just snark indicative of a guy with esteem issues.  But carry on "warrior."

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What Scoop needs is more super fans like you Without Bias!  Please continue to regal all of us with your intuitions like this (laughable) gem:

Yea for you buddy!  All scoopers should show you some love for waging the social media campaign that secured Dawson's commitment.  Laughable.  Your other posts are mostly just snark indicative of a guy with esteem issues.  But carry on "warrior."

Oh the irony.

Any dunks on notable athletes lately, Ners?
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Did the Cubs ever play the Brewers before 15 years ago?

I'm pretty sure they've both been in the NL Central since the mid to late 90s

Edit: since I do have access to the good ol internet... The Brewers have been in the NL Central ever since the switch from the AL to the NL in '98. And the Cubs have been in the NL Central since '94.
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Oh the irony.

Any dunks on notable athletes lately, Ners?

No, thanks for asking.  I can't do it anymore buddy.  45 now so I've taken up volleyball.  I've found elevating for spikes over that 7' net to be as effortless as it was to elevate over the 10' hoop until the 40s. 

How's your bump and set game?  I've yet to master those skills.  Any tips?
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No, thanks for asking.  I can't do it anymore buddy.  45 now so I've taken up volleyball.  I've found elevating for spikes over that 7' net to be as effortless as it was to elevate over the 10' hoop until the 40s. 

How's your bump and set game?  I've yet to master those skills.  Any tips?

7' nets?  Sheesh, can I get in on this league?  I'd feel really good about myself playing on nets that are shorter than some of the people who play the sport are!

My biggest piece of advice, and it applies to all sports and I feel like you're a guy who probably doesn't see it this way and is all about the flash and extra, unnecessary movements to look cool, is simple > complex.  Always.
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7' nets?  Sheesh, can I get in on this league?  I'd feel really good about myself playing on nets that are shorter than some of the people who play the sport are!

My biggest piece of advice, and it applies to all sports and I feel like you're a guy who probably doesn't see it this way and is all about the flash and extra, unnecessary movements to look cool, is simple > complex.  Always.

Solid advice.  I've found setting the ball isn't too difficult, but passing/bumping - seemingly so simple, challenges me.  #truth

My bad on the net height.  It just feels about like 7', but just looked up height and realize it is basically 8'.   8-)
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Solid advice.  I've found setting the ball isn't too difficult, but passing/bumping - seemingly so simple, challenges me.  #truth

My bad on the net height.  It just feels about like 7', but just looked up height and realize it is basically 8'.   8-)

Or you are playing on the women's layout which is less than 7'5".
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Or you are playing on the women's layout which is less than 7'5".

You’ve failed already. It was a good five minutes though congratulations.

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You’ve failed already. It was a good five minutes though congratulations.

You want to go back and read that thread request?  Thanks
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me.” Al McGuire

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Wish we could have traded programs with UWM . They made the tourney a few years ago. Good thread

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You want to go back and read that thread request?  Thanks

Unless Wojo coaches the DePaul volleyball team also, I believe you’re violating what you supposedly teach. Chicos, Chicos Chicos. You’ve disappointed me little boy…

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Remember when Marquette scored 103 points to blow out 14th-ranked Buffalo behind 45 points from Markus Howard last December?

Well, DePaul -- you know, the great program that some alleged Marquette "fans" would rather have -- just lost at home to a much-lesser-regarded Buffalo team.
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Remember when Marquette scored 103 points to blow out 14th-ranked Buffalo behind 45 points from Markus Howard last December?

Well, DePaul -- you know, the great program that some alleged Marquette "fans" would rather have -- just lost at home to a much-lesser-regarded Buffalo team.

Sub-100 kenpom loss at home is no Bueno.

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Remember when Marquette scored 103 points to blow out 14th-ranked Buffalo behind 45 points from Markus Howard last December?

Well, DePaul -- you know, the great program that some alleged Marquette "fans" would rather have -- just lost at home to a much-lesser-regarded Buffalo team.
Shhhh.  Don't ruin the narrative.
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For all those that got their panties in a wad because Depaul had more "receiving votes" than MU last week ... this week MU has more "receiving votes" than Depaul (11 to 1!)

Hey Five Guys ... does this mean our long-term outlook now makes us a better program, and Wojo a better coach, again?

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This reminds me of a lower rent version of when Loyola made their Cinderella run a few years ago and people were jealous of the program, saying things like they'd rather have Porter Moser than Wojo, wondering if they belong in the Big East, etc.

Turns out it was just a fart in the wind. At least they actually made the final four though, DePaul just has a early December kenpom rating in the 60's and beat some mediocre non-con teams. Pathetic!

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This reminds me of a lower rent version of when Loyola made their Cinderella run a few years ago and people were jealous of the program, saying things like they'd rather have Porter Moser than Wojo, wondering if they belong in the Big East, etc.

Turns out it was just a fart in the wind. At least they actually made the final four though, DePaul just has a early December kenpom rating in the 60's and beat some mediocre non-con teams. Pathetic!

Loyola had one of the easiest runs to a Final Four in history. 

DePaul looks much improved this year.  Two Big Ten wins on the road, Texas Tech at home...not bad.  They certainly haven’t played murderer’s row, but not bad.
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Loyola had one of the easiest runs to a Final Four in history. 

They only make the easy Final Four runs?

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Well..... I might rather have the DePaul program right now.
More vivid memories is detractors saying MUs poor defense showed wojo couldn't coach, but now that defense is elite 30th in Ken pom that attack has to be abandoned.

Guess when your argument is that you'd rather have the 61st best team in kenpom rather than our current 23rd ranked team you are grasping.

However, I am happy for DePaul and the whole big east - the stronger the conference is the stronger MU can be long term.
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This thread would have been left to 5DollarPitcher and Elonsmusk alone
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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More vivid memories is detractors saying MUs poor defense showed wojo couldn't coach, but now that defense is elite 30th in Ken pom that attack has to be abandoned.

Guess when your argument is that you'd rather have the 61st best team in kenpom rather than our current 23rd ranked team you are grasping.

However, I am happy for DePaul and the whole big east - the stronger the conference is the stronger MU can be long term.

Wojo's defense was the third worst among majors. It was the worst in Marquette's statistical history. He and his staff spent an off-season and summer rebuilding and teaching the defense.

Wojo didn't disagree with detractors like myself by rebuilding his defense from the inside out with schemes and personnel. MU's two point defense was 19th in the country last year versus 304th the year before.

MU is winning games with defense now.  And yes, I gave him many kudos last year for improving as I did for critiquing. To compare the defensive knocks to this DePaul delusion is recreating history, especially when Wojo agreed.

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Wojo's defense was the third worst among majors. It was the worst in Marquette's statistical history. He and his staff spent an off-season and summer rebuilding and teaching the defense.

Wojo didn't disagree with detractors like myself by rebuilding his defense from the inside out with schemes and personnel. MU's two point defense was 19th in the country last year versus 304th the year before.

MU is winning games with defense now.  And yes, I gave him many kudos last year for improving as I did for critiquing. To compare the defensive knocks to this DePaul delusion is recreating history, especially when Wojo agreed.

Very reasonable, Doc.

EFR's Loyola comparison is a better one.
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The defense was bad because of two sun 6 foot guards, one of whom didn't want to play defense.  And a small, poorly balanced roster.
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The defense was bad because of two sun 6 foot guards, one of whom didn't want to play defense.  And a small, poorly balanced roster.

And Wojo spent the summer teaching a new scheme.  His words.

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And Wojo spent the summer teaching a new scheme.  His words.

I think one thing Wojo has shown to do well is change his approach based on the team he has in front of him.  In that year, he had an highly productive offense and knew his defense wasn't going to win games so his focus was score, score and score.  Later he built a more rounded team so his defense improved because he focused on it and he had a team to support it. 

This year he has a strong defensive team because of the is more athletic and longer than previous years.  If his offense comes along, we could be in good shape.

 

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