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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #776 on: February 19, 2020, 08:53:48 PM »
....I wonder if 82 will comment on this?

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #777 on: February 19, 2020, 09:00:19 PM »
Lots to pick from tonight:

Sub .500 Georgia knocks off #13 Auburn by double digits

Sub 150 KenPom Texas A&M beats NCAA hopeful Alabama at their place (gig 'em)

Sub 125 KenPom UCF beats bubble team Cincinnati in Cincy

Sub 200 KenPom Tulane up double digits against bubbly SMU in the final minutes

Future #1 seed Duke down 15 at half to NIT hopeful NC State (obviously a lot of game left in this one)
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #778 on: February 19, 2020, 10:51:08 PM »
Duke will be a 2.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #779 on: February 20, 2020, 12:13:17 AM »
Duke will be a 2.

You are correct. They still lost by 22 to a team previously praying to make the NIT.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #780 on: February 20, 2020, 08:02:37 AM »
....I wonder if 82 will comment on this?

I don't know why anybody should be concerned about this. After all, announced attendance was 8,395 ... and that's more than half the capacity at the 16,540-seat Frank Erwin Center!

Yep, they sure do have Shaka Fever in Austin!!!

During his 5 years, average attendance has been 10,714 -- but it was only 8,650 last year, when they missed the tournament.

Texas is not basketball country, but average attendance was 11,717 during 17 seasons under Smart's predecessor, Rick Barnes. During a 6-year stretch from 2005-11, when the team regularly contended for Big 12 titles and twice reached the Elite 8, average attendance was 13,620. One reason Barnes had to go was that attendance had been falling in his later years.

UT is building a new on-campus arena to open for the 2021-22 season. Although its capacity will be 17K for things like concerts, they will close off the upper level for every basketball game to create an "intimate" 10K-seat basketball arena.

Apparently, they are acknowledging that even Mrs. Shaka can't get butts in the seats of UT basketball games.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #781 on: February 22, 2020, 09:27:47 PM »
Final - UNLV 66 @ #4 SDSU 63
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #782 on: February 22, 2020, 09:34:25 PM »
Final - UNLV 66 @ #4 SDSU 63

Could TJO be our unicorn?

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #783 on: February 22, 2020, 11:06:30 PM »
the zags down by 11 with 1:30 to go at BYU
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #784 on: February 22, 2020, 11:06:54 PM »
#1, 2, and 4 lose within 12 hours of each other.

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« Reply #785 on: February 23, 2020, 06:03:51 PM »
I don't know why anybody should be concerned about this. After all, announced attendance was 8,395 ... and that's more than half the capacity at the 16,540-seat Frank Erwin Center!

Yep, they sure do have Shaka Fever in Austin!!!

During his 5 years, average attendance has been 10,714 -- but it was only 8,650 last year, when they missed the tournament.

Texas is not basketball country, but average attendance was 11,717 during 17 seasons under Smart's predecessor, Rick Barnes. During a 6-year stretch from 2005-11, when the team regularly contended for Big 12 titles and twice reached the Elite 8, average attendance was 13,620. One reason Barnes had to go was that attendance had been falling in his later years.

UT is building a new on-campus arena to open for the 2021-22 season. Although its capacity will be 17K for things like concerts, they will close off the upper level for every basketball game to create an "intimate" 10K-seat basketball arena.

Apparently, they are acknowledging that even Mrs. Shaka can't get butts in the seats of UT basketball games.

Aren't you glad you asked?
Yes....your obsession with shaka is still very impressive after all these years.
I thought it was strange two years ago, when you would bring up UT’s losses...on MU’s board...but I now think you will just continue to comment on Shaka wherever he ends his career. Whatever makes you happy I guess.
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« Reply #786 on: February 23, 2020, 09:07:54 PM »
The end of the Georgia - Vanderbilt game...Scottie Pippen's kid is fouled with Vanderbilt up two so he shoots two free throws to ice it with 5 seconds left.  Misses both, Georgia runs down to hit a long 3 to win it.  Pippen's kid is averaging 11points a game as a freshman...pretty solid freshman campaign.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #787 on: February 23, 2020, 09:32:31 PM »
#1, 2, and 4 lose within 12 hours of each other.

Regular season games are meaningless - total crap shoot!

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #788 on: February 24, 2020, 08:00:43 PM »
Texas has WVU on the ropes with 3 minutes left. With a loss, WVU would fall to 7-8 in the Big 12. They also have a non conference loss @ SJU. They have one win over a top 60 team in conference, a home win over Texas Tech.

They are, somehow, 7th in Kenpom. Strong non conference with wins over N Iowa, RI, Ohio State, and Wichita State.

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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #789 on: February 24, 2020, 08:08:19 PM »
huggy seems to be so much better since they implanted that AED under that massive sweatshirt
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #790 on: February 24, 2020, 08:08:40 PM »
Could TJO be our unicorn?
Ohhhh...I’m not a Wojo basher but this I could get behind.

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« Reply #791 on: February 24, 2020, 08:11:43 PM »
Could TJO be our unicorn?

Maybe....but let's see what he does with his recruits in a few years.  Definitely an up and coming coach. 
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« Reply #792 on: February 24, 2020, 08:21:31 PM »
Maybe....but let's see what he does with his recruits in a few years.  Definitely an up and coming coach.

i'm surprised UNLV is the best he could do with his background- 3 post season appearance in 3 years at dakota state?  that's like canada south.  what's the draw there?  come to s dakota state cuz we're not n. dakota?  hockey is huge, but their cheerleaders are packer rejects for chriminey sakes
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« Reply #793 on: February 24, 2020, 08:37:22 PM »
i'm surprised UNLV is the best he could do with his background- 3 post season appearance in 3 years at dakota state?  that's like canada south.  what's the draw there?  come to s dakota state cuz we're not n. dakota?  hockey is huge, but their cheerleaders are packer rejects for chriminey sakes

SDSU has been pretty good for a bit.  They won 19 or more games every year since 2011....won 24+ a few times before TJ got there. 
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« Reply #794 on: February 24, 2020, 08:37:42 PM »
Maybe....but let's see what he does with his recruits in a few years.  Definitely an up and coming coach.

Why?  We could just look what he did with our (MU) recruits at ISU.

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« Reply #795 on: February 24, 2020, 08:43:37 PM »
Why?  We could just look what he did with our (MU) recruits at ISU.

He did that...should we look at what Wojo did as an assistant with Duke players then...to compare apples to apples in your comparison?   :D
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« Reply #796 on: February 24, 2020, 08:46:59 PM »
Maybe....but let's see what he does with his recruits in a few years.  Definitely an up and coming coach.

It’s not like he has a bunch of studs leftover. Both Rice and Menzies were mediocre over the last 4-5 years.

i'm surprised UNLV is the best he could do with his background- 3 post season appearance in 3 years at dakota state?  that's like canada south.  what's the draw there?  come to s dakota state cuz we're not n. dakota?  hockey is huge, but their cheerleaders are packer rejects for chriminey sakes

I think it’s just viewed as too low level for a jump to high major gigs. His predecessor there, Scott Nagy, brought them up from D2 after a successful run at that level, transitioned them and rebuilt them into a team that won 3 conference titles and 3 NCAA appearances and an NIT in his last 5 years, all by only his late 40s, and that got him a job at....Wright State. So honestly, a jump to UNLV is actually pretty nice for TJ, likely aided by his age.

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« Reply #797 on: February 24, 2020, 09:03:01 PM »
He did that...should we look at what Wojo did as an assistant with Duke players then...to compare apples to apples in your comparison?   :D

Or we could look at TJO's head coaching record at a low Major in conference or making the Crapshoot (66%). 

It's simple Cheeken Little: Wojo wins out, he is gold. I believe he will do it. But, end of the day, Wojo needs to learn to win in the conference where he is mediocre (sub 500).  TJO has figured that out.

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« Reply #798 on: February 24, 2020, 09:28:31 PM »
Or we could look at TJO's head coaching record at a low Major in conference or making the Crapshoot (66%). 

It's simple Cheeken Little: Wojo wins out, he is gold. I believe he will do it. But, end of the day, Wojo needs to learn to win in the conference where he is mediocre (sub 500).  TJO has figured that out.

Low major...hmm....They've made the NCAA tournament 2012, 2013, 2016.  NIT 2015.  This is a good program even before TJ got there. TJ got to take over a NCAA tournament team....I wish Wojo had but Buzz left him crap. Now, that said, I like TJ a lot.  So I'm not why you are piling on.  If he comes up in the mix down the road, great.  Right now I'd like him to continue to prove it out with his guys.  At SDSU he took a NCAA team and kept it going for two years with a mix of his guys and the previous.  In his last year, almost all his guys they were a NIT team....Western Illinois bit them in their league tournament...a team SDSU beat only a weak earlier by 20 and a month earlier than that by 42....but they lost to the Leathernecks in the Summit League tourney.  I can only imagine the warm reception for Wojo going into a conference tournament as the #1 seed and losing to a 4-12 team that you drilled twice in the regular season.   Let me ask, what would the reception have been.......?

We'll see how things play out with him, but I do like him and the fact he is a Wisconsin guy. Let's see how he recruits at UNLV and how they end up performing in the next few years.
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« Reply #799 on: February 24, 2020, 09:36:13 PM »
Let me ask, what would the reception have been.......?

Crapshoot, hey? Just like TB.

Back to MU: Throw out out Year 1 and Wojo is .500 except with the Hausers in conference. Just.Win.Out in 2020 and all is good for (y)our boy. It’s that simple.