Marquette soccer (Men and Women)

[shoothoops]

The men's team is struggling again. This will now be 2 NCAA appearances in 14 seasons for Louis Bennett unless winning conference tournament this season. 10 of 13 have been losing record seasons.

The Women's team will miss the NCAA's for the 5th time in 6 seasons unless winning the conference tournament this season  (Made it 12 of 18 prior to that in a total of 24 Markus Roeders seasons) Been a rough go for several recent seasons.

I understand the challenges and different importance levels of non-revenue sports. But I would think expectations would be a bit higher than this.

[Galway Eagle]

Yeah but remember that year we were ranked number 2?

[Dr. Blackheart]

One would have expected both programs would have done better in the NBE, but they haven’t.

[jesmu84]

From what he achieved down the road, I really expected better from Bennett

[shoothoops]

2 NCAA appearances in 14 seasons signals to me apathy from MU. That’s way too long to stick with someone unless you don’t care in my opinion.

With the women, Roeders has 12 of 24 years of NCAA’s but 1 of 6 lately with most success in the middle. I’ve always been taken a back at the lack of diversity on his teams as well over the past couple of decades.

Again, scholarship limits, non-revenue, private vs public schools, etc...but there are way too many “like” schools performing at higher levels.

[Cheeks]

2 NCAA appearances in 14 seasons signals to me apathy from MU. That’s way too long to stick with someone unless you don’t care in my opinion.

With the women, Roeders has 12 of 24 years of NCAA’s but 1 of 6 lately with most success in the middle. I’ve always been taken a back at the lack of diversity on his teams as well over the past couple of decades.

Again, scholarship limits, non-revenue, private vs public schools, etc...but there are way too many “like” schools performing at higher levels.

We only have three NCAA men’s appearances in school history.  Two of them in the last 7 years.  Nothing to write home about, but we have not had much success at all in men’s soccer overall.

[Lennys Tap]

We only have three NCAA men’s appearances in school history.  Two of them in the last 7 years.  Nothing to write home about, but we have not had much success at all in men’s soccer overall.

15 years to judge.

[Cheeks]

15 years to judge.

I actually said a number of years ago I would pull the plug on this one, he’s had a lot of time to figure it out.

[Billy Hoyle]

One would have expected both programs would have done better in the NBE, but they haven’t.

the NBE is no joke.  #1 and #3 in the RPI, Seton Hall (which just tied #3) the lowest ranked at #68. MU is #51 and traditional power Creighton is #61.  Outside of the ACC the Big East is right up there as one of the strongest conferences in the country.

[Dr. Blackheart]

the NBE is no joke.  #1 and #3 in the RPI, Seton Hall (which just tied #3) the lowest ranked at #68. MU is #51 and traditional power Creighton is #61.  Outside of the ACC the Big East is right up there as one of the strongest conferences in the country.

I don't think it is at weaker the top.  But losing ND, Louisville, UCONN, Cuse really hurt the overall depth. More so, MU dropped considerably where it was up there. 

[shoothoops]

Roeders stepping down is not a surprise to me. The women's program had missed the NCAA's 5 of 6 seasons and trending the wrong direction. The program had a noticeable lack of diversity in an era where it is common place. Roeders had a very good run of 12 of 18 NCAA teams prior to that after taking several years of building to get it going. But this is a good time for a change.

[Boozemon Barro]

I've never seen the women play, what kind of lack of diversity we talkin about? Too many Mexicans?

[Galway Eagle]

Hope he's resigning by his own volition or else it's ludicrous he resigns and not the men's coach

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Hope he's resigning by his own volition or else it's ludicrous he resigns and not the men's coach

That's not usually how it works.  Their respective contracts could be different.  There could be other issues other than on-field performance involved.  He could have had a discussion with the AD and simply agreed to part ways.

[Dr. Blackheart]

That's not usually how it works.  Their respective contracts could be different.  There could be other issues other than on-field performance involved.  He could have had a discussion with the AD and simply agreed to part ways.

Or his contract ran out.

[drewm88]

Or his contract ran out.

On top of these reasons, the men's season is still going.

[Billy Hoyle]

3 NBE sides on to the final 16. St John’s, Georgetown and Providence all advance today.

[shoothoops]

3 NBE sides on to the final 16. St John’s, Georgetown and Providence all advance today.

Yep. Very good results for the league. Georgetown very well could win the whole thing. .....Brian Wiese has built an elite program there. He's a Bobby Clark guy.....played at Dartmouth, assistant under Clark at both Stanford and ND. Super bright guy.  He has about 5 Big East Titles and 4 conf tourney titles there, 8 of 10 NCAA's after building an elite program.

Masur has been around forever at St. John's 33 years. Rutgers guy  Changed assistants in recent years, helped give them a resurgence. After much success for decades with varying degrees  They are good this year.

Stewart came from the D-2 route playing and coaching at his alma mater Franklin Pierce. Has had a nice run in his 8 plus years at Providence, with 4 of 8 NCAA's and some nice NCAA runs. Assistant coach there in the past.

Different ways MU can go to build a program under a new head coach. Some good candidates.

[shoothoops]

Former MU women's assistant coach Hideki Nakata is seeking his 2nd National Title as an assistant at Stanford tonight. (he is the Associate Head Coach under Paul Ratcliffe who has been great there) In his 6 easons at Stanford, the Cardinal have won 1 National Title, made the NCAA College Cup semifinals two other times, an elite 8, and 2nd round. While at Marquette from 2009-12, MU made the NCAA's all four seasons including two Sweet 16 appearances and a Big East Regular season title. He moved back to the west coast (He played at U of San Francisco)  at Oregon for a year before Stanford.

[Cheeks]

Former MU women's assistant coach Hideki Nakata is seeking his 2nd National Title as an assistant at Stanford tonight. (he is the Associate Head Coach under Paul Ratcliffe who has been great there) In his 6 easons at Stanford, the Cardinal have won 1 National Title, made the NCAA College Cup semifinals two other times, an elite 8, and 2nd round. While at Marquette from 2009-12, MU made the NCAA's all four seasons including two Sweet 16 appearances and a Big East Regular season title. He moved back to the west coast (He played at U of San Francisco)  at Oregon for a year before Stanford.

One of the women I work with at the NFL played soccer and lacrosse at Stanford...top tier program.

[lawdog77]

One of the women I work with at the NFL played soccer and lacrosse at Stanford...top tier program.

I am new here. So does everyone of your posts have to include some meaningless celebrity run in?

[drewm88]

One of the women I work with at the NFL played soccer and lacrosse at Stanford...top tier program.

One of the women I work with both watches the NFL and has access to the internet, so I can confirm...top tier program.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Former MU women's assistant coach Hideki Nakata is seeking his 2nd National Title as an assistant at Stanford tonight. (he is the Associate Head Coach under Paul Ratcliffe who has been great there) In his 6 easons at Stanford, the Cardinal have won 1 National Title, made the NCAA College Cup semifinals two other times, an elite 8, and 2nd round. While at Marquette from 2009-12, MU made the NCAA's all four seasons including two Sweet 16 appearances and a Big East Regular season title. He moved back to the west coast (He played at U of San Francisco)  at Oregon for a year before Stanford.

When does MU name it’s new women’s coach?  In play?

[Galway Eagle]

I am new here. So does everyone of your posts have to include some meaningless celebrity run in?

How else could we have known it's a top tier program? Certainly not from google or general reputation.

[Cheeks]

I am new here. So does everyone of your posts have to include some meaningless celebrity run in?

Yes...EVERY ONE does....EVERY SINGLE ONE.

And your 2 year anniversary at Scoop is next month...since you are “new here”.

[shoothoops]

When does MU name it’s new women’s coach?  In play?
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Not sure. Signed classes began Nov 13, and MU had a few despite the change the week prior. It's in its 5th week.

[lawdog77]

Yes...EVERY ONE does....EVERY SINGLE ONE.

And your 2 year anniversary at Scoop is next month...since you are “new here”.

just like baby Yoda is 50. It.takes awhile. You have probably met him(her) too.

[Cheeks]

just like baby Yoda is 50. It.takes awhile. You have probably met him(her) too.

Nope.  Happy early 2 year anniversary dog.

[shoothoops]

If Marquette was waiting for the NCAA tourney to end to announce a new women's soccer coach...well...that came and went last week.

We could take a poll to see how long it will take to announce a coach.

6 weeks
2 months
6 months
No coach just roll the ball out and play.

[Billy Hoyle]

If Marquette was waiting for the NCAA tourney to end to announce a new women's soccer coach...well...that came and went last week.

We could take a poll to see how long it will take to announce a coach.

6 weeks
2 months
6 months
No coach just roll the ball out and play.

Ever been involved in a college coaching search? You don’t just hire someone and these things take time, especially if it involves current head coaches. You’re also often battling other schools too and sometimes non-athletics issues (e.g., custody issues). Notre Dame didn’t hire their MSOC coach until a January after the G-town coach turned them down. Similar for Oregon State.

[shoothoops]

Ever been involved in a college coaching search? You don’t just hire someone and these things take time, especially if it involves current head coaches. You’re also often battling other schools too and sometimes non-athletics issues (e.g., custody issues). Notre Dame didn’t hire their MSOC coach until a January after the G-town coach turned them down. Similar for Oregon State.

Brian Wiese has his Georgetown team playing in the National Championship game tomorrow, for the 2nd time. 8 NCAA's past 10 years, 5 Big East Regular Season Titles, 4 Big East Conference Tourney Titles. Are you saying this is the level of success that MU can expect for its men's and women's programs moving forward? Since you are comparing the two searches. The MU men's coach has had four winning seasons in 14 seasons total. He has won double digit games twice in 14 seasons. He hasn't had a winning season in six seasons and hasn't made the NCAA's in seven seasons. (2 NCAA's in 14 seasons) And he of course is still the men's coach. So yes perhaps my expectations are too high. Hopefully we will hear about the new women's coach in the near future.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ever been involved in a college coaching search? You don’t just hire someone and these things take time, especially if it involves current head coaches. You’re also often battling other schools too and sometimes non-athletics issues (e.g., custody issues). Notre Dame didn’t hire their MSOC coach until a January after the G-town coach turned them down. Similar for Oregon State.

Why this is true, the reality is MU knew for more than six weeks that Roeders wouldn't be back.  I suspect MU is closer to a decision than January.

[shoothoops]

And there it is...

Georgetown wins its first ever Soccer National Title.

Georgetown 3 Virginia 3 OT
(Georgetown 7 Virginia 6 PK's)

It's the 3rd National Title for the Big East. St. John's 1996, Connecticut 2000.

[lawdog77]

And there it is...

Georgetown wins its first ever Soccer National Title.

Georgetown 3 Virginia 3 OT
(Georgetown 7 Virginia 6 PK's)

It's the 3rd National Title for the Big East. St. John's 1996, Connecticut 2000.

Didnt even know it was on . I turned on Womens Volleyball and saw the shootout. Nice win for the conference, but too many sports bra looking things afterwards. Not sure why half the team decided to take off their shirts,

[shoothoops]

Didnt even know it was on . I turned on Womens Volleyball and saw the shootout. Nice win for the conference, but too many sports bra looking things afterwards. Not sure why half the team decided to take off their shirts,

The sports bras worn by some players were created to measure their performance on the field, in training, and in games. The support has a GPS system that allows collection of info of the physical state of the player, and it sends info in real time

Highly entertaining game between two of the best teams I saw this year.

[Cheeks]

Didnt even know it was on . I turned on Womens Volleyball and saw the shootout. Nice win for the conference, but too many sports bra looking things afterwards. Not sure why half the team decided to take off their shirts,

Our men’s basketball team wears them as well, data monitoring.

[lawdog77]

Our men’s basketball team wears them as well, data monitoring.

I know that. Didnt know they wear them in game. To tie this i to the cheating thread, wonder if these can be.modified to shoot some performance enhancements into the users.

[Billy Hoyle]

Brian Wiese has his Georgetown team playing in the National Championship game tomorrow, for the 2nd time. 8 NCAA's past 10 years, 5 Big East Regular Season Titles, 4 Big East Conference Tourney Titles. Are you saying this is the level of success that MU can expect for its men's and women's programs moving forward? Since you are comparing the two searches. The MU men's coach has had four winning seasons in 14 seasons total. He has won double digit games twice in 14 seasons. He hasn't had a winning season in six seasons and hasn't made the NCAA's in seven seasons. (2 NCAA's in 14 seasons) And he of course is still the men's coach. So yes perhaps my expectations are too high. Hopefully we will hear about the new women's coach in the near future.

The only mention of Georgetown was that Wiese turned down Notre Dame, extending ND's search into January. Oregon State was turned down by multiple candidates extending theirs into January as well

[shoothoops]

Former 19 year MU assistant Frank Pelaez was named new MU women's soccer head coach. He spent the past 5 years as an assistant to former MU assistant Barry Bimbi at Loyola Chicago.

[Cheeks]

Former 19 year MU assistant Frank Pelaez was named new MU women's soccer head coach. He spent the past 5 years as an assistant to former MU assistant Barry Bimbi at Loyola Chicago.

Frank and I worked together at MU...very happy for him.  Just shot him a note on Facebook.  He's been waiting for this opportunity for a long time.  Hopefully works out for all involved.