As if it couldn't get any worse for America's Dairyland

[muhoosier260]

sorry, couldn't be more wrong. fan of the world champion (at least for 12 more days) Indianapolis Colts

Then what's your beef with GB? Twelve Time World Championship envy? (that was a joke. please don't jump all over this "fudge Packer" fan.)

just coming to MU and being surrounded by packers culture...although i suppose if i was from wisconsin and lived in indiana i would say the same about the colts, or any other region and team for that matter

[augoman]

US. thats right, you were wearing a jersey between goal lines weren't you. the over confidence thing is apparent when you take off the green and gold goggles. ya man, they did blow it: McQuarters 2nd fumble wasn't recovered by GB and they won the toss in OT, what more can you ask for?
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YES, US!  You see, the Green Bay Packers are the only team in the NFL owned by the people.  Oh, and BTW, I, too, like the Colts- especially coach and qb.-  The good news is I don't have to be jealous of all other teams to be a fan.
but, I reiterate, there was no overconfidence, the Pack didn't "blow it", they played poorly and the Giants played well.  Had the Pack won in O/T, THEN the Giants would have blown it as they outplayed the Pack in all regards.   "...on any given Sunday..."

[Moonboots]

YES, US!  You see, the Green Bay Packers are the only team in the NFL owned by the people. 

Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.

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...although i suppose if i was from wisconsin and lived in indiana i would say the same about the colts, or any other region and team for that matter

Take it from someone who lives right in between those 2 regions.  GB fans are WAY more annoying than colts fans. 


Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.


Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

[IAmMarquette]

Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.


Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

It's not about financial gain. The Packers, as a publicly owned entity, will never leave Green Bay, never have to worry about Mark Cuban buying them, never have their owner pack up the equipment and leave town in the middle of the night...

And Hoosier--I completely understand where you're coming from. In fact, going to Marquette with all those damn Cubs fans made me a bigger Brewers fan.

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...although i suppose if i was from wisconsin and lived in indiana i would say the same about the colts, or any other region and team for that matter

Take it from someone who lives right in between those 2 regions.  GB fans are WAY more annoying than colts fans. 

The Colts have a fanbase?

Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.


Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

And Hoosier--I completely understand where you're coming from. In fact, going to Marquette with all those damn Cubs fans made me a bigger Brewers fan.

I am sorry for your losses.

[Moonboots]

Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

I wouldn't expect you to understand.  There's a pride factor involved with owning, supporting and cherishing one of the most historic and unique franchises in all of professional sports.  So yes, it IS something to be proud of.  How many professional franchises do YOU share ownership of? If enough stockholders call the President (who DOES pick up his own phone, mind you) we can actually make an impact on the decisions of the Board of Directors.  Uniform changes? Naming rights to the stadium? Building a NEW stadium?  Not while the fans own the franchise...

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I wouldn't expect you to understand.  There's a pride factor involved with owning, supporting and cherishing one of the most historic and unique franchises in all of professional sports.  So yes, it IS something to be proud of.  How many professional franchises do YOU share ownership of? If enough stockholders call the President (who DOES pick up his own phone, mind you) we can actually make an impact on the decisions of the Board of Directors.  Uniform changes? Naming rights to the stadium? Building a NEW stadium?  Not while the fans own the franchise...


No, I understand.  I will never even come close to being as great of a fan as packers shareholders are because I don't have that little piece of paper to make me feel special.    OMG, Mark Cuban may buy the team I support?  PLEASE SAY IT AIN'T SO!  And you are telling me I don't have a say in what uniforms my team wears?  NO NO NO!!!  I better call my broker and tell him to get me as much of that Packers stock as he can get his hands on.  Oh, Wait.....

[IAmMarquette]

No, I understand.  ... 

I better call my broker and tell him to get me as much of that Packers stock as he can get his hands on.  Oh, Wait.....

Sigh... no, you don't understand. But you're doing a hell of a job of flaming, so kudos for that.

[muhoosier260]

...although i suppose if i was from wisconsin and lived in indiana i would say the same about the colts, or any other region and team for that matter

Take it from someone who lives right in between those 2 regions.  GB fans are WAY more annoying than colts fans. 

The Colts have a fanbase?

Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.


Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

And Hoosier--I completely understand where you're coming from. In fact, going to Marquette with all those damn Cubs fans made me a bigger Brewers fan.

I am sorry for your losses.

ooh, ouch that hurt

[muhoosier260]

No, I understand.  ... 

I better call my broker and tell him to get me as much of that Packers stock as he can get his hands on.  Oh, Wait.....

Sigh... no, you don't understand. But you're doing a hell of a job of flaming, so kudos for that.

don't assume every sports fan cares that the packers have their unique fan ownership. what is it really more than a superficial entitlement? the fan ownership in no way makes packers fans have more pride than any other team...this is exactly why i have a beef with the packers culture, as mentioned earlier in the thread. its some type of weird fan complex that i thought only yankees fans had. of course not being a packer fan i'm grossly outnumbered in milwaukee, so anytime this comes up ppl like myself get ganged up on. let's not start the better fan argument, we all know from the boxer boys what that accomplishes. NOTHING!

of course this is merely how i see it, from a different perspective

[IAmMarquette]

No, I understand.  ... 

I better call my broker and tell him to get me as much of that Packers stock as he can get his hands on.  Oh, Wait.....

Sigh... no, you don't understand. But you're doing a hell of a job of flaming, so kudos for that.

don't assume every sports fan cares that the packers have their unique fan ownership. what is it really more than a superficial entitlement? the fan ownership in no way makes packers fans have more pride than any other team...this is exactly why i have a beef with the packers culture, as mentioned earlier in the thread. its some type of weird fan complex that i thought only yankees fans had. of course not being a packer fan i'm grossly outnumbered in milwaukee, so anytime this comes up ppl like myself get ganged up on. let's not start the better fan argument, we all know from the boxer boys what that accomplishes. NOTHING!

I never said we were better fans, nor do I believe that we are. That said, if you're not a Packer fan, you still don't understand. It's not a judgment, it's an observation. That's all.

[ChicosBailBonds]

...although i suppose if i was from wisconsin and lived in indiana i would say the same about the colts, or any other region and team for that matter

Take it from someone who lives right in between those 2 regions.  GB fans are WAY more annoying than colts fans. 

The Colts have a fanbase?

Took the words right out of my mouth.  If anyone has the right to refer to the team as "us" it's Packer fans.  My dad has a share of Packers stock, thus making the Green Bay Packers Corporation (which includes the team on the field) part of his assets, as well as those of any other Packer fan who owns stock.


Congratulations on making what may the worst investment ever... investing in a stock that does not pay a dividend, does not appreciate in value, and can usually only be sold back to the team at a considerable discount.   A complete waste of money --- something to be proud of, no doubt! 

And Hoosier--I completely understand where you're coming from. In fact, going to Marquette with all those damn Cubs fans made me a bigger Brewers fan.

I am sorry for your losses.

According to the 2007 fan surveys, Colts are the #2 most popular NFL team in the USA.  Patriots don't break the top 5.  Cowboys were number 1

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Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

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Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

Also, do you have any data on which fanbase is the most special?  I imagine GB Packers is #'s 1-5 but it would be interesting to see the data anyway.  Thanks in advance. 

[IAmMarquette]

Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

Also, do you have any data on which fanbase is the most special?  I imagine GB Packers is #'s 1-5 but it would be interesting to see the data anyway.  Thanks in advance. 

At least you're making meaningful contributions to the discussion. Keep up the good work.

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Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

Also, do you have any data on which fanbase is the most special?  I imagine GB Packers is #'s 1-5 but it would be interesting to see the data anyway.  Thanks in advance. 

At least you're making meaningful contributions to the discussion. Keep up the good work.

What do you expect from someone's 4th post?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

The survey was done in October of 2007

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=811

[muhoosier260]

Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

The survey was done in October of 2007


http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=811

hahahahahahah!!!!! even though i am  a colts fan (and this poll definitely gives the colts a lot of credit) i had to laugh at the poll fine print.
-2,400 adults 18 and older,  which 1,200 followed football!!!??? Thats just ridiculous...I had to laugh.

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Wow, I stand corrected then. Does it have anything to do with the Super Bowl kickback or was the survey before then?

Not surprised about the Patriots honestly. What were the others in the top 5? Do you have access to the top 5 in all sports? I'd be interested in seeing that.

The survey was done in October of 2007


http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=811

hahahahahahah!!!!! even though i am  a colts fan (and this poll definitely gives the colts a lot of credit) i had to laugh at the poll fine print.
-2,400 adults 18 and older,  which 1,200 followed football!!!??? Thats just ridiculous...I had to laugh.

It's a scientific poll. They aim to have a wide base of pollers, and non-sports fans are included. They only do the NFL and MLB, and every year the champion of that sport jumps to the Top 3 no matter what.

[Mayor McCheese]

One of the main reasons why the Green Bay Packers are owned by the fans (partly) is due to the huge Socialist movement in Wisconsin around the time when the Pack were born.  Lets face it, Wisconsin has deep history ties to Socialist parties, the fact that we actually elected a representative to go to Washington DC, and the man was under the Socialist Party ticket.  That is a huge reason why the Packers are owned by the "fans".

Although don't get me wrong, I love the Pack and really like the idea of fans owning a piece of the team in thought.  Would never see Jerry Jones do that in Dallas, or Steinbrenner with the Yankees.

[augoman]

Mayor, I think you're wrong re the socialist movement and the Packers' ownership.  I am sure it was a simple case of keeping the team viable.  The history of the pack and of Curley Lambeau is very interesting..., in spite of the fact that he was playing football at Notre Dame.  Milwaukee did, however, elect a socialist mayor-Frank Ziedler(sp).

[rocky_warrior]

What do you expect from someone's 4th post?

OT, but posts in the superbar don't count toward one's total...

[Mayor McCheese]

Mayor, I think you're wrong re the socialist movement and the Packers' ownership.  I am sure it was a simple case of keeping the team viable.  The history of the pack and of Curley Lambeau is very interesting..., in spite of the fact that he was playing football at Notre Dame.  Milwaukee did, however, elect a socialist mayor-Frank Ziedler(sp).

not saying it was all due to the Socialist movement here in Wisconsin, however it was part of it, kinda sucks to say, but yea, it was a part of the idea.

[Sir Lawrence]

Mayor, I think you're wrong re the socialist movement and the Packers' ownership.  I am sure it was a simple case of keeping the team viable.  The history of the pack and of Curley Lambeau is very interesting..., in spite of the fact that he was playing football at Notre Dame.  Milwaukee did, however, elect a socialist mayor-Frank Ziedler(sp).

not saying it was all due to the Socialist movement here in Wisconsin, however it was part of it, kinda sucks to say, but yea, it was a part of the idea.

Why do you say that?  Every history of the Packers that I have read reflects that the organization simply went to the locals for bail outs when needed, rather than seek the financial aid of a wealthy contributor or corporation.  I don't see how that means it was part of any Socialist movement in Wisconsin.  I know that Wisconsin has been influenced by socialism, but I cannot see any link to the Packers.