Greenland!

[buckchuckler]

Anyone else pumped about buying Greenland!  Let's do it!!!!!!!

I know it isn't likely.  But I find it very fun.  We haven't had a new state since '60.  It's time.  Puerto Rico doesn't seem to want to change its status, and same for Guam.  Let's buy Greenland!!!!

And no, I haven't put any thought into it.


Sorry if this is too political.  Feel free to lock. 

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“You’re either growing or you’re dying.” - Big Tom Callahan

[Pakuni]

Always a key acquisition when you're playing Risk.

[ATL MU Warrior]

What’s under all the ice?  I’d hate to buy it if it’s going to be a fraction of its current  size in a few decades.

[wadesworld]

What’s under all the ice?  I’d hate to buy it if it’s going to be a fraction of its current  size in a few decades.

The good news is global warming isn't a thing to the guy whose administration is looking into the purchase...

[forgetful]

What’s under all the ice?  I’d hate to buy it if it’s going to be a fraction of its current  size in a few decades.

Honestly, Greenland may be one of the richest areas in terms of minerals. They are just very hard to reach because of the ice sheet.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Honestly, Greenland may be one of the richest areas in terms of minerals. They are just very hard to reach because of the ice sheet.

Good thing that thing will be gone soon!

[Lennys Tap]

I've been told Greenland is icy and Iceland is green. Go figure.

[Jockey]

My mind boggles at the brazen stupidity of this.

Princess Ivanka, anyone?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My mind boggles at the brazen stupidity of this.

Princess Ivanka, anyone?

If it actually were for sale, purchasing it would be a no-brainer.

[Cheeks]

Strategically I love it.  Remember the folks in the past that were ridiculed for buying things like Alaska (Seward’s folly), etc. 

As for climate change, it has always changed and always will.  What’s the balance?  How much do we have to give up when others won’t at all?  What difference will it make ( no one truly knows), and on and on. 

I’m just thanking the Lord every day that the predictions that by 2011 and then 2014 and then 2017, etc, fell amazingly flat.  Here’s an idea, when you move your chips into the middle and scream the end of the world is near with dire predictions that then don’t happen, it ends up creating a boy cries wolf scenario time after time.  But yeah, climate changes, all the time and that will never stop until the giant ball of hydrogen gas extinguishes itself.

[Cheeks]

If it actually were for sale, purchasing it would be a no-brainer.

Correct.  One thing is for sure, it is out of the box and would be a grand slam if the USA was able to pull it off (very unlikely).  Can we trade Baltimore and California straight up for it? 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Correct.  One thing is for sure, it is out of the box and would be a grand slam if the USA was able to pull it off (very unlikely).  Can we trade Baltimore and California straight up for it? 

That would be stupid.

[Cheeks]

Make Greenland Green Again

As scientists have found, Greenland was quite warm at one point...cuz climate changes and will always change.

https://phys.org/news/2018-06-ancient-greenland-warmer-previously-thought.html

[wadesworld]

Make Greenland Green Again

As scientists have found, Greenland was quite warm at one point...cuz climate changes and will always change.

https://phys.org/news/2018-06-ancient-greenland-warmer-previously-thought.html

So because the climate will always change why make changes for the good of God’s green Earth hey?

Kind of like the argument that people who want to be violent will find a way to get their hands on a weapon so why bother making changes to make our streets safer and make it more difficult for a weapon to end up in the wrong hands?

[Cheeks]

So because the climate will always change why make changes for the good of God’s green Earth hey?

Kind of like the argument that people who want to be violent will find a way to get their hands on a weapon so why bother making changes to make our streets safer and make it more difficult for a weapon to end up in the wrong hands?

Because climate is way bigger than anything we can control, and spending trillions on it to tank our economy and no proof of anything coming of it is suicidal.  Greenland was green long before people were here.  Ice caps melting on other planets without any people.  Does that mean we don’t have an impact....of course it doesn’t...of course we have an impact, but so do many things in the most complex question out there....one that scientists admit they don’t understand, one they admit their models were not tong and keep having to “correct” and adjust.  But hey, these ideas coming out are going to make a differ nice.  LOL....to what end? 

Your analogy is absurd, but I’ll play along.....

We should have laws not allowing murder.  Oh wait.

Oh, and please get rid of your smoke alarms, you don’t need them because the fire dept will be there in time to protect you.   Sounds dumb....for the same reason it sounds dumb that the police will be there in time...they sure as hell won’t.

[wadesworld]

Because climate is way bigger than anything we can control, and spending trillions on it to tank our economy and no proof of anything coming of it is suicidal.  Greenland was green long before people were here.  Ice caps melting on other planets without any people.  Does that mean we don’t have an impact....of course it doesn’t...of course we have an impact, but so do many things in the most complex question out there....one that scientists admit they don’t understand, one they admit their models were not tong and keep having to “correct” and adjust.  But hey, these ideas coming out are going to make a differ nice.  LOL....to what end? 

Your analogy is absurd, but I’ll play along.....

We should have laws not allowing murder.  Oh wait.

Oh, and please get rid of your smoke alarms, you don’t need them because the fire dept will be there in time to protect you.   Sounds dumb....for the same reason it sounds dumb that the police will be there in time...they sure as hell won’t.

Sounds right.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Debating Cheeks over global warming is like debating with a toddler over bedtime.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Debating Cheeks over global warming is like debating with a toddler over bedtime.

One cheeks for the G in Greenland.  Consider that my opening offer. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Correct.  One thing is for sure, it is out of the box and would be a grand slam if the USA was able to pull it off (very unlikely).  Can we trade Baltimore and California straight up for it?

So you would trade the world's fifth largest economy plus a throw in for Greenland?

[forgetful]

I've been told Greenland is icy and Iceland is green. Go figure.

Stupid Vikings.

[Cheeks]

That would be stupid.

I’m aware....it was a joke....I’m guessing if I said Alabama, Texas or Utah it would be given a thumbs up by some. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Debating Cheeks over global warming is like debating with a toddler over bedtime.

Toddlers eventually have to go to bed.  Chicos, however, will never ever admit he is wrong, no matter what. See the continued Davidson stupidity.

[buckchuckler]

Well we got to 4 posts before it went political.  Now it is the crap show I thought it would be.

The risk point is critical though.

[Cheeks]

Debating Cheeks over global warming is like debating with a toddler over bedtime.

LOL...he said Global Warming....remember, we got rid of that phrase when it wasn’t always working out form the claimants.

I just wish they would stop changing the data....we should have a conspiracy thread to talk about that.  Interesting that NOAA has gone back in time to change actual temperatures to make them cooler...literally ignoring the actual readings....because in doing that, you can then say it is getting even warmer when the data today doesn’t play nice with the models that failed to confirm their early predictions.


My dad, a scientist, is rolling in his grave over this crap.  Stop messing altering the data to get a result you want.

[Cheeks]

Well we got to 4 posts before it went political.  Now it is the crap show I thought it would be.

The risk point is critical though.

The very first post, yours, was political because of the subject matter...you even thought it was when you mentioned it.   

[Cheeks]

Toddlers eventually have to go to bed.  Chicos, however, will never ever admit he is wrong, no matter what. See the continued Davidson stupidity.

I guess Davidson fans are wrong as are many sports journalists who agree with me.  You see, it is possible to have a team choke and also do a comeback.  Very difficult to simply have a great comeback, because the other side has to do their part.

[Jockey]

Debating Cheeks over global warming is like debating with a toddler over bedtime.

The toddler would present a more rational argument.

[WarriorFan]

Arctic strategy is important.  If northern Russia and Canada are any indication, the mineral wealth in Greenland should provide a great return on investment as well.  The northern sea route changes global logistics.  Right now, Russia "owns" it and it's going to be important soon for other players to engage.  China is even ahead of the US on this one - it has more icebreakers in service (7) than the US (2).  Gaining additional 'frontage' on the northern sea route would give the US equal standing to Russia and Canada as maritime policy and exploration policy (lots of oil and gas there as well) evolve.

On a less serious note, I do think California would be a good trade...

[Jockey]

A note to all:

This is why, when I started the new baseball thread that I want chico nowhere near it. He destroys everything. The first time he does that on the baseball thread, I will go full politics and shut it down.

[forgetful]

Arctic strategy is important.  If northern Russia and Canada are any indication, the mineral wealth in Greenland should provide a great return on investment as well.  The northern sea route changes global logistics.  Right now, Russia "owns" it and it's going to be important soon for other players to engage.  China is even ahead of the US on this one - it has more icebreakers in service (7) than the US (2).  Gaining additional 'frontage' on the northern sea route would give the US equal standing to Russia and Canada as maritime policy and exploration policy (lots of oil and gas there as well) evolve.

All this are great points. But before we get to the point where there will be a return of investment/benefit from such policy, there will be another major war or catastrophic geopolitical event that renders it all moot.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Well we got to 4 posts before it went political.  Now it is the crap show I thought it would be.

The risk point is critical though.

I was the fourth post and I fail to see any scenario where my post was political.

[Pakuni]

Stupid Vikings.

Leave Kirk Cousins out of this.

[rocket surgeon]

A note to all:

This is why, when I started the new baseball thread that I want chico nowhere near it. He destroys everything. The first time he does that on the baseball thread, I will go full politics and shut it down.

just your incessant whining is enough to shut down anything, but go for it and many here will be rooting for the ultimate hammer to fall on ya. 

btw, chicos is right on here.  i wish i could make wild predictions and not be held accountable while someone is laughing all the way to the bank yelling SUCKERS!  not to mention this disproportionately hurts the less fortunate

[Newsdreams]

Normal scoop, the stupid just being stupid

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

LOL...he said Global Warming....remember, we got rid of that phrase when it wasn’t always working out form the claimants.

I just wish they would stop changing the data....we should have a conspiracy thread to talk about that.  Interesting that NOAA has gone back in time to change actual temperatures to make them cooler...literally ignoring the actual readings....because in doing that, you can then say it is getting even warmer when the data today doesn’t play nice with the models that failed to confirm their early predictions.


My dad, a scientist, is rolling in his grave over this crap.  Stop messing altering the data to get a result you want.

I’m good friends with NOAA’s State of the Climate author. He’s a cool dude with two awesome kids enrolled in the local Catholic schools. Anyway, he has no reason to fudge data. No dog I’m this fight. Just reporting the facts that the earth is warming rapidly.

And he has talked with me about why values were adjusted upwards and downwards. And that over time it pretty much evens itself out.

Your dad likely would have understood this. He’s likely rolling over in his grave because his son is a simpleton.

[buckchuckler]

I was the fourth post and I fail to see any scenario where my post was political.

I meant posts 1-4 were all in good fun, then it took the political turn.  I meant through 4 posts.   Sorry

And yes, I was aware that even my first post was political due to the nature of the topic.  But the same old people are taking it off track and down the road to a pissing match locked thread.