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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2019, 06:00:43 PM »
Idaho State's new coach will make a base of $115,000. Obviously not a pittance but hardly living the high life.

Idk, 115K might be living the high life once you factor in the cost of living for Pocatello
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2019, 06:13:53 PM »
Idaho State's new coach will make a base of $115,000. Obviously not a pittance but hardly living the high life.

Meh, makes 49k more then I do and I am at the 85% for my age. So he's not doing to rough. I'm living pretty comfortably.

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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2019, 08:48:51 PM »
Idaho State's new coach will make a base of $115,000. Obviously not a pittance but hardly living the high life.

I'm sure 115000 goes quite far in a state like Idaho. But still good point
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2019, 11:33:03 AM »
I'm sure 115000 goes quite far in a state like Idaho. But still good point

My main point is there is a significant gap between the top and bottom and not everyone in the coaching industry is rolling in dough. Looney, as a head coach, is making significantly less than assistants at major programs. Then put him in a room with guys like Cal, Izzo, K, or even mid-major guys like Marshall and even Leitao and he's bottom of the barrel salary wise.

And, the worst part, he has to live in Pocatello, ID.
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2019, 02:04:50 PM »
I couldn't find any salary information for Buzz Williams as the head coach at New Orleans compared to when he was an assistant at Marquette. But here are some listed mid-major head coaching salaries per USA Today:

Mike Rhoades, Virginia Commonwealth (A10) -- $1.2 million
Brian Dutcher, San Diego St. (MWC) -- $829,453
Nate Oats, Buffalo (MAC) -- $612,000
Tim Cluess, Iona (MAAC) -- $565, 261
Chris Jans, New Mexico St. (WAC) -- $429,000
T.J. Otzelberger, South Dakota St. (Summit) -- $400,000
Kyle Keller, Stephen F. Austin (Southland) -- $355,000
LeVelle Moton, North Carolina Central (MEAC) -- $289,900

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2019, 02:08:32 PM »
What's the story with Cluess? Why hasn't he attracted high major interest?

Rumor was that St. John's offered him the HC job when Mullin "stepped down" but Cluess turned them down. Which is especially interesting given that Cluess is an alum. Could be he's just happy at Iona.
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2019, 02:11:14 PM »
Rumor was that St. John's offered him the HC job when Mullin "stepped down" but Cluess turned them down. Which is especially interesting given that Cluess is an alum. Could be he's just happy at Iona.

All the stories indicate St John's admin was a complete crapshow. Pretty sure all their top targets turned them down because the leadership is clueless and bad at their jobs.
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2019, 02:33:58 PM »
All the stories indicate St John's admin was a complete crapshow. Pretty sure all their top targets turned them down because the leadership is clueless and bad at their jobs.

You might even say they were "Cluess"
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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2019, 03:00:41 PM »
What's the story with Cluess? Why hasn't he attracted high major interest?
I think Cluess has a solid gig where he is at. Iona is an attractive mid major job. Good history and tradition and the school is attractive to kids  for recruiting purposes. Why give that up for all the lunacy of The Johnny program?

 

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Re: OT How recruiting really works at the mid major level
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2019, 05:47:52 PM »
Rumor was that St. John's offered him the HC job when Mullin "stepped down" but Cluess turned them down. Which is especially interesting given that Cluess is an alum. Could be he's just happy at Iona.

Cluess was never offered, that was the crux of it being a crapshot. The AD wanted him but the President and General Counsel (former interim AD) wanted Moser. Cluess then resisted overtures after Moser turned them down.
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