Snowplow parents

[Billy Hoyle]

You pull the scholly at the end of the year, just like it happens now. You can't always adjust everything in real-time. It is the best solution available.

No solution is going to be perfect. You put a solution in place that addresses the majority of the situations...80/20 rule. Far more coaches would take advantage of a situation where they could pull scholarships mid-year, than there are students who currently tank it in the current set-up.

the problem with that A) in Power 5 conferences scholarships are guaranteed for four years and as long as you're doing the bare minimum (showing up on time, staying out of trouble, staying eligible) the school has to honor the scholarship.  Even at a non-Power 5 school like MU, if a parent asks for a 4-year scholarship MU can give that and will if that's the difference between choosing MU over a Power 5 school like Madison.

And unlike the fantasy the dude above laid out in his word salad, there are not lawyers that work to screw student-athletes over to take their scholarships. The process is stacked heavily in favor of the student-athlete, basically a "beyond a reasonable doubt" situation. Sure, a coach can say "you're not going to play" but if the kid wants to remain at the school the will as long as they have done what they're supposed to do. The "we expected 10 ppg and only got 4" doesn't work and is a violation of the bylaws prohibiting cancellation for athletic reasons.

[Coleman]

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[dgies9156]

the problem with that A) in Power 5 conferences scholarships are guaranteed for four years and as long as you're doing the bare minimum (showing up on time, staying out of trouble, staying eligible) the school has to honor the scholarship.  Even at a non-Power 5 school like MU, if a parent asks for a 4-year scholarship MU can give that and will if that's the difference between choosing MU over a Power 5 school like Madison.

And unlike the fantasy the dude above laid out in his word salad, there are not lawyers that work to screw student-athletes over to take their scholarships. The process is stacked heavily in favor of the student-athlete, basically a "beyond a reasonable doubt" situation. Sure, a coach can say "you're not going to play" but if the kid wants to remain at the school the will as long as they have done what they're supposed to do. The "we expected 10 ppg and only got 4" doesn't work and is a violation of the bylaws prohibiting cancellation for athletic reasons.

Well, OK, as the author of the "word salad" let me lay out a few points.

1) I never said NCAA Member Institutions will pull a scholarship. I said they could and I stand by that. There are reputable schools, like our's, who live by their word to people, and there are schools that don't.

2) Contracts and agreements are not for the predictable. They are for the unexpected and unanticipated. They are designed to protect interests. Given the fact that the NCAA member institution drafted the agreement -- probably word for word from a model provided by the NCAA -- whose interests do you think they are protecting? If you believe the NCAA member institution is an altruistic entity that solely is interested in the welfare and well-being of the student athlete for the student athlete's sake, I got a bridge between Marin County and San Francisco I can sell you very inexpensively!

3) At the core of things, the athlete deserves the same support structure as is available for the Member Institution. He or she doesn't have it and can't retain it without losing eligibility. Where's the fairness in that? What are the member institutions afraid of? Someone will put the screws to them? You betcha!

4) Given this, I stand by my original contention. While I don't have much time for Messrs. Maymon, Ellenson or Hauser, I understand why they do what they do. Parents are the only ones who will stand up for their children/athletes/students. Of course the NCAA is going to scream about it! Someone is leveling the playing field!

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

This is an example where the scholarship should not be honored in my opinion.  Slippery slope for sure, but if the student athlete is not doing the work for which they received the scholarship she is frauding the university.

“Frauding” 😂😂

[warriorchick]

“Frauding” 😂😂

The irony... it burns...

[Benny B]

The irony... it burns...

Well, I suppose one has to be wormed before they can be dewormed.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Now now, don’t give me all the credit as there is a whole cadre of fine, well spoken people here that contributed daily to that board where goal posts were moved constantly.

15 years to judge

[Cheeks]

The irony... it burns...

Is he claiming frauding isn’t a word, or that he believes defrauding would have been better?   Frauding is a word and defrauding I believe is a criminal act....but it’s been a long time since my CRIM classes at MU....not sure what he is challenging here.  He still has t libel with business owner if I recall.  LOL.

[warriorchick]

Is he claiming frauding isn’t a word, or that he believes defrauding would have been better?   Frauding is a word and defrauding I believe is a criminal act....but it’s been a long time since my CRIM classes at MU....not sure what he is challenging here.  He still has t libel with business owner if I recall.  LOL.

I am not sure what point he was trying to make. I just find it hilarious that a guy who thinks it is too much trouble to spell out the word "you" is correcting other people's alleged grammar mistakes.

[Cheeks]

I am not sure what point he was trying to make. I just find it hilarious that a guy who thinks it is too much trouble to spell out the word "you" is correcting other people's alleged grammar mistakes.

Ahh, thanks.