Bad look for Wardle at Bradley

[Pakuni]

He's a hack, IU grad that many IU fans know plenty about.  An absolute clown hack.r

More ad hominem.
Moreover, who cares?  He tweeted an Al McGuire quote ithat illustrates the stupidity of Bradley's behavior. Is Mcguire's point from a several decades ago now invalid because a guy you don't like tweeted it today?

Anyhow, the fact that Bradley's athletic department and president have both now disavowed the school's behavior kinda blows a hole in everything else at this point. They were wrong. They know they were wrong.  They admitted they were wrong. Life goes on.

[GooooMarquette]

That is destined to be the best comment in this thread no matter how long it goes on.

Yep.

[Cheeks]

More ad hominem.
Moreover, who cares?  He tweeted an Al McGuire quote ithat illustrates the stupidity of Bradley's behavior. Is Mcguire's point from a several decades ago now invalid because a guy you don't like tweeted it today?

Anyhow, the fact that Bradley's athletic department and president have both now disavowed the school's behavior kinda blows a hole in everything else at this point. They were wrong. They know they were wrong.  They admitted they were wrong. Life goes on.

They caved.  Nothing more, nothing less.  People are so damn afraid of the press and their bullying tactics or threats of what they will do.  Ridiculous.   They aren't objective, haven't been and won't be starting now.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I am glad Dessert Dave will get to sample the Costco cake at the selection show party. I await the Pulitzer winning article.

This is why the internet sucks.  Faux victimization on every slight while major catastrophes and injustices get underreported.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Pukuni and Nads to the defense of the reporter no matter the situation.  FREE PRESS!  REPORTERS MATTER!

Cripes, PTM doesn't jump to the defense of jizz moppers every time something bad happens in a porn store. 

Why you guys so sensitive? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Pukuni and Nads to the defense of the reporter no matter the situation.  FREE PRESS!  REPORTERS MATTER!

Cripes, PTM doesn't jump to the defense of jizz moppers every time something bad happens in a porn store. 

Why you guys so sensitive? 

And others immediately attack the the reporter no matter the situation.

The most right on this situation is Dr. B. We don't have all the information. Without all the information we can't really make a judgement. So why is everyone rushing to one side or the other without all the relevant information?

[MU82]

Pukuni and Nads to the defense of the reporter no matter the situation.  FREE PRESS!  REPORTERS MATTER!
Why you guys so sensitive?

As I said, I know the reporter.

And Bradley admitted they were wrong.

Not sure why some here attack reporters, no matter the situation.

The most comical line was chicos accusing others of not being objective on a subject about which he has proven time and again he is incapable of being objective.

[Cheeks]

As I said, I know the reporter.

And Bradley admitted they were wrong.

Not sure why some here attack reporters, no matter the situation.

The most comical line was chicos accusing others of not being objective on a subject about which he has proven time and again he is incapable of being objective.

I'm not a journalist, I don't have to be.  Journalists are supposed to be, and they aren't. That's the difference.

"There is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.” - Hunter S. Thompson

[MU82]

I'm not a journalist, I don't have to be.  Journalists are supposed to be, and they aren't. That's the difference.

"There is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.” - Hunter S. Thompson

Most reporters are very objective, and that is doubly the case of most newspaper reporters. Dave Reynolds is a very good reporter; I hope you are as good and honest a worker at your job as he is at his.

Just to make sure ... you do know the difference between reporters and columnists, right? The latter's job is to have an opinion and present it. Bozich is a columnist.

And sure ... if there's one person to have objectively judged journalism (or most anything else), it would have been Hunter S. Thompson. He, of course, is the father of "gonzo journalism" -- which is defined as "a style of journalism that is written without claims of objectivity, often including the reporter as part of the story via a first-person narrative."

Indeed, using him as your judge pretty much eliminates any credibility you have on the subject.

As usual, all of this is just your opinion (which you back up with a quote from an admittedly non-objective person). You just figure that if you shout it often enough, some will be dopey enough to accept it as fact.

[Cheeks]

Most reporters are very objective, and that is doubly the case of most newspaper reporters. Dave Reynolds is a very good reporter; I hope you are as good and honest a worker at your job as he is at his.

“The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.”  +Thomas Jefferson

Many journalists are, but the profession of journalism and what used to be required (2 sources, etc) has been eroded to such a point.....the profession has been sullied.  Then you have opinion journalists representing things as fact, which I get is usually under the guise of an opinion piece.  Unfortunately, those lines have also been totally obliterated in today's world. 

The view of the media is very low, and they have earned it.  I feel bad for the good ones, the objective ones, but so many journalists our there with agendas that they have trashed it for everyone.  Didn't used to be this way, but they destroyed themselves. What was once a revered institution, is no longer viewed that way.  Polling after polling.  Gallup, IPSOS, Columbia Journalism Review, etc. 

[NorthernDancerColt]

I dunno, it's not his job to promote "The Bradley Brand," I think Bradley were pretty thin skinned here, most high school coaches handle the press better than this.

In either case, Wardle and Bradley are getting all the press they can handle now.

I think people here don’t understand the context of Peoria as Illini territory. Peoria has produced some real Illinois powerhouses....Manuel owned the state for years. My bet is that if you researched this guy’s coverage, he probably covered Illinois at some point. I realize Bradley is not competing with U of I for the same recruits, but maybe “bully” Wardle thinks they can eventually.

[NorthernDancerColt]

@rickbozich: As a wiser, former Marquette guy named Al McGuire once told me to tell a thin-skinned coach: If you want to read something nice about yourself, buy an ad. Shame on Chris Reynolds and Brian Wardle.

This is true.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Rick Bozich....one of the lead clowns in sports journalism.  Awesome example.

So is this.

[MU82]

“The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.”  +Thomas Jefferson

Many journalists are, but the profession of journalism and what used to be required (2 sources, etc) has been eroded to such a point.....the profession has been sullied.  Then you have opinion journalists representing things as fact, which I get is usually under the guise of an opinion piece.  Unfortunately, those lines have also been totally obliterated in today's world. 

The view of the media is very low, and they have earned it.  I feel bad for the good ones, the objective ones, but so many journalists our there with agendas that they have trashed it for everyone.  Didn't used to be this way, but they destroyed themselves. What was once a revered institution, is no longer viewed that way.  Polling after polling.  Gallup, IPSOS, Columbia Journalism Review, etc.

I agree with the Jefferson quote. The good thing is that I don't know anybody "who reads nothing but newspapers."

Glad you switched to Jefferson and away from Thompson after I pointed out that using a quote from him on objective journalism automatically kills your credibility.

Yes, "many journalists are" very objective. Glad we agree on that point. I'd argue that most reporters are, and I'd argue against your rhetoric that's filled with generalizations and hate.

You want to talk about poll after poll ... well, polls have shown that readers of newspapers (and their websites) are well-informed, are more likely to read books, are more likely to seek out in-depth information, and are less likely to rely on single-source information. In other words, they aren't dopes who watch only Fox News or MSNBC, or who use Facebook as their main source of news.

Like most journalists, most newspaper readers are allies of the people.

[rocket surgeon]

Semantics. I seriously doubt the AD denies access if Wardle didn't say something to him.

Maybe you can afford to do this if you're a successful high-major program that's regularly covered in national publications (i.e., GTown in the 80s). But when you're a mid-major, you have to take all the coverage you can get. Bad call.

need to know what psj wrote that mis-represented the team and/or bradley, etc.  without that, no real decent opinion can be drawn here.  it's essentially an editorial by one "journalist" supporting another "journalist"  we don't know if they dislike each other's politics, choice of clothing, haircuts or what?  we all know what newspapers are in business of doing?  yup, selling newspapers.  need to know the rest of the story.  which is what most (good) "journalists" fail to do.  i heard there are a few whopper lawsuits out regarding mal-journalism 

as for mid-majors, i would be put the psj in that category too...maybe

[MU82]

According to reports, Wardle met with the reporter, Reynolds, on Sunday afternoon and apologized to him face-to-face. Wardle then apologized to the crowd at the watch party, saying, "I own that."

Wardle got a standing ovation from the crowd.

Even if he had to be prodded to do it, I appreciate a person who can admit he was wrong, especially a person in a position of authority. That couldn't have been easy for Wardle to do.