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ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: MUEng92 on March 16, 2019, 07:14:27 AM
Hope this link works.  It compares what Powell did to Sacar and why Theo didn't do to Powell.  Credit Nathan Marzion on Twitter if the link works. Blame me if it doesn't

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1106790110727684096/pu/pl/ud0H8nnW4ZlGJbmi.m3u8?tag=8
Thanks for this. Shows pretty clearly that Theo barely even touched him. Hardly worthy of anything, much less an ejection.

The Sultan

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 16, 2019, 01:17:18 AM
Looking back, I wish Theo would have at least gotten his moneys worth before being ejected. Let him have a go at Powell and Mamu again.

So he can miss the NCAA as well?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

warriors1991

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 16, 2019, 01:19:34 AM
I was struggling with that as well. On one hand I see point #3 of the flagrant 2 rule and see the example of a "player in a vulnerable position" on the other hand, I really think that was incidental contact and something that happens to Markus three times a game.

This exactly. Markus gets shoved to the floor multiple times every single game. So does every other slashing player. The refs could, by the letter of the law, throw out a player every single game for hitting someone "in a vulnerable position." The only reason it was noticed was because Powell jumped up and acted like a baby and instigated a fight. 

I am still furious the next morning. But reading Seth's twitter feed is bringing me a slice of joy. Hilarious that he is absolutely (deservingly) getting filleted.

MUEng92

I honestly didn't know that was a rule because I don't recall it ever being called.  It makes how refs call  Markus' drives to the basket his whole career even more ridiculous

rocket surgeon

Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2019, 12:50:57 AM
The Clap is bad, but the ejections are mainly involuntary


LOLOLOLOLOL.     Youyouyou chewyouyou you gotta gift chewyouyou
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: MUEng92 on March 16, 2019, 07:04:28 AM
Saw a view of the Theo Powell play from a camera on the opposite end of the court. Powell was unquestionably already awkwardly falling to the ground before Theo arrived to no more than brush his forearm on Powell. I thought 5 hours of sleep would help me calm down. But seeing that view 1st thing in the morning actually shows the call was even worse than I thought last night and shot a new dose of adrenaline through my body.

I agree. When I saw that angle last night it looked like a ho hum end of routine see it all the time play, but home team super star reacted and refs put the home team knee pads on.  Theo has reigned it in pretty good, but they must talk about certain players to watch before,the game and he just can't seem to shake his old reputation. Maybe it's the mus-kles and they just assume he must be a goon or something.  Regardless, the refs set the tone early for allowing a deliberate elbow punch to sacar now it's game on and they let their inner tim donaghykick in

We had many opportunities to play thru the bullchit, but no could take the reigns
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

connie

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 16, 2019, 08:20:32 AM
I agree. When I saw that angle last night it looked like a ho hum end of routine see it all the time play, but home team super star reacted and refs put the home team knee pads on.  Theo has reigned it in pretty good, but they must talk about certain players to watch before,the game and he just can't seem to shake his old reputation. Maybe it's the mus-kles and they just assume he must be a goon or something.  Regardless, the refs set the tone early for allowing a deliberate elbow punch to sacar now it's game on and they let their inner tim donaghykick in

We had many opportunities to play thru the bullchit, but no could take the reigns
MU really needs to have this addressed before next season.  I can "technically" see the Theo foul as a flagrant 2, but it really looks lacking in intent, impact and intensity and in a normal world would not be called.  Contrast this with the planned, wind-up elbow Powell throws and there is little comparison. This is the kind of disparity that is hard to put aside, and MU and Wojo should make a big deal about this crap at every single BE meeting and before every BE officiated game.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

#UnleashSean

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2019, 12:47:39 AM
https://setonhall.forums.rivals.com/threads/ap-pool-reporter-with-the-ref-crew-chief.39400/

So clapping at an opponent is a more serious foul than deliberately elbowing an opponent. Makes perfect sense.

Lol that forum has some crazy goggles on it. Calling theo a punk for a reactionary play. But completely disregarding their own player throwing an elbow and saying Sacar baited him into it. Damn they got some dumb people

tower912

We may want to contemplate the plank in our own eye before commenting on the splinter in theirs. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 16, 2019, 07:51:15 AM
Thanks for this. Shows pretty clearly that Theo barely even touched him. Hardly worthy of anything, much less an ejection.

Wow.  Great video evidence.  Theo barely wrinkled Powell's uniform.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2019, 08:38:38 AM
We may want to contemplate the plank in our own eye before commenting on the splinter in theirs.

I think most of scoop handled it all very well. Manu and sacar are going to be ejected. Powell should be as well. When theo gets ejected that starts up a pretty reasonable tirade.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2019, 08:38:38 AM
We may want to contemplate the plank in our own eye before commenting on the splinter in theirs.

Again Tower, not the hill you want to die on today.

tower912

Quote from: #UnleashCain on March 16, 2019, 08:41:32 AM
I think most of scoop handled it all very well. Manu and sacar are going to be ejected. Powell should be as well. When theo gets ejected that starts up a pretty reasonable tirade.

I think we all agree that the fracas was handled poorly and officiating affected outcome.   But we certainly have our share of irrational posters.    It amuses me that we are criticizing an opposing fanbase for their passion and perception.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 16, 2019, 08:43:09 AM
Again Tower, not the hill you want to die on today.

I'll chance it.     It isn't like I can suddenly whip out a long suppressed insanely angry side.    I thought the officiating affected if not dictated outcome.   I think MU got hosed.     I also think that it looked like an old time Big East tournament game.     
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
I'll chance it.     It isn't like I can suddenly whip out a long suppressed insanely angry side.    I thought the officiating affected if not dictated outcome.   I think MU got hosed.     I also think that it looked like an old time Big East tournament game.     

Minus the 85 free throws of course.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: tower912 on March 16, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
I'll chance it.     It isn't like I can suddenly whip out a long suppressed insanely angry side.    I thought the officiating affected if not dictated outcome.   I think MU got hosed.     I also think that it looked like an old time Big East tournament game.     

It's funny you say that...as the issues at play with the officials were rules enacted/points emphasized after/because of the old Big East. The delineation of flagrant fouls, points of emphasis on arm guarding and center play, what's a technical versus flagrant foul. You are right, the refs brought their old rule books.

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