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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #875 on: April 15, 2019, 12:37:13 AM »

Just a slight correction.  You are right that he turned down multiple jobs, but he never turned down Maryland.  That's the only place he  wanted to coach but was never offered the job.

There is actually more to the story about Maryland.

After Bias died of a coke overdose right after being drafted by the Celtics Maryland forced Lefty out. One of their first calls was to Wootten. Maryland was a mess after Bias' death when stories of athletes never setting foot in a classroom, etc... triggered a wholesale purge of the program.

Maryland hired the Dunbar coach, Bob Wade, to replace Lefty. Dunbar was an inner city school that was a national powerhouse. He had a reputation for being a tough coach and disciplinarian who insisted on accountability.

What's funny is that Wade only lasted a few years and was guilty of numerous NCAA violations. Maryland got hit with a slew of penalties because of Wade's personal behavior.

What isn't clear is if Maryland offered Wootten first. Some say that he was but the absolute truth is still not known. John Feinstein of the Post is one of those who wrote that Wootten was offered.

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« Reply #876 on: April 15, 2019, 11:29:51 AM »

Coincidence?
 
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« Reply #877 on: April 15, 2019, 11:45:25 AM »
Coincidence?
 
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Considering Jeff Long has been their AD for the last year or so, I'm not sure what Rothstein is talking about.

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« Reply #878 on: April 15, 2019, 08:04:27 PM »
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #879 on: April 16, 2019, 06:33:13 AM »
Reportedly Porter Moser & Ryan Odom are also in the mix at St John's. Moser would really make me laugh.

So either people are doubling down on bad sources, or St John's has really offered the job to Porter Moser.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/15/st-johns-coaching-search-porter-moser-lands-surprise-offer/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Adam Zagoria and Andrew Slater (from The Athletic) reporting the same. But hey, maybe he didn't even interview, his agent is laughing, and he's not the guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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« Reply #880 on: April 16, 2019, 11:01:12 AM »
So either people are doubling down on bad sources, or St John's has really offered the job to Porter Moser.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/15/st-johns-coaching-search-porter-moser-lands-surprise-offer/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Adam Zagoria and Andrew Slater (from The Athletic) reporting the same. But hey, maybe he didn't even interview, his agent is laughing, and he's not the guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is a weird situation. He was never on the Athletic Director's (Mike Cragg) radar, it was the General Counsel, who was the interim AD, who pulled the trigger here.  Why did SJU hire a new AD if they were going to let the interim guy usurp him and conduct his own, independent search?
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #881 on: April 16, 2019, 03:17:09 PM »
Special Assistant to the Athletic Director. He did the scheduling for Men's Basketball.

Thanks for the clarification, do you have any ties to the KU athletic department?

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« Reply #882 on: April 16, 2019, 03:41:44 PM »
Thanks for the clarification, do you have any ties to the KU athletic department?

No, I do not.  I'm on a listserv that has links to NCAA related articles, including transactions. That's where I got the info.
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #883 on: April 16, 2019, 04:10:37 PM »
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Loyola-Chicago coach Porter Moser has turned down a St. John's offer, sources tell ESPN. Moser will remain with the Ramblers.

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« Reply #884 on: April 16, 2019, 04:13:29 PM »
SJU still without a coach.  Getting  turned down by mid major coaches.  Careful what you wish for.
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« Reply #885 on: April 16, 2019, 04:13:48 PM »
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Loyola-Chicago coach Porter Moser has turned down a St. John's offer, sources tell ESPN. Moser will remain with the Ramblers.

Good gravy. Everyone constantly champing at the bit to fire coaches needs to take a look at these searches this offseason.

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« Reply #886 on: April 16, 2019, 04:17:34 PM »
Wojo to da Johnnies, hey?
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« Reply #887 on: April 16, 2019, 04:42:22 PM »
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Loyola-Chicago coach Porter Moser has turned down a St. John's offer, sources tell ESPN. Moser will remain with the Ramblers.

St John's might be dodging a bullet, but that's not a good look.

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« Reply #888 on: April 16, 2019, 04:46:15 PM »
SJU still without a coach.  Getting  turned down by mid major coaches.  Careful what you wish for.

Does Larry Brown need a Job.
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #889 on: April 16, 2019, 04:48:22 PM »
SJU still without a coach.  Getting  turned down by mid major coaches.  Careful what you wish for.

it was best that they moved on from Mullin. He wasn't fully invested in the job, particularly after his family moved back west.

What they do next is going to be interesting considering the General Counsel usurped the AD to go after and offer Moser, a coach with no ties to NYC or the East Coast.  Could there be an internal war brewing in Queens?

By the way, how is Tennessee feeling today after Barnes came out and said he would have gone to UCLA if they'd paid his buyout?
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« Reply #890 on: April 16, 2019, 05:48:59 PM »
By the way, how is Tennessee feeling today after Barnes came out and said he would have gone to UCLA if they'd paid his buyout?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26538172/ucla-paid-buyout-left

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« Reply #891 on: April 16, 2019, 05:52:06 PM »
Does Larry Brown need a Job.

Always. Even when he's not available, he's available.

Brown and Pitino are both available, and Pitino said he wanted the St. John's job. They should go for it. It would be fun!
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« Reply #892 on: April 16, 2019, 05:55:45 PM »
SJU still without a coach.  Getting  turned down by mid major coaches.  Careful what you wish for.

Again, how horrible of a job do you think MU is?? SJU is a TERRIBLE job, that's why no one wants it. MU would do FAR better then all these small time names that have been floating around for jobs this year.

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« Reply #893 on: April 16, 2019, 06:04:06 PM »
Again, how horrible of a job do you think MU is?? SJU is a TERRIBLE job, that's why no one wants it. MU would do FAR better then all these small time names that have been floating around for jobs this year.

What names would be interested in Marquette that are better than the names being floated out here this year?  I’m curious
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« Reply #894 on: April 16, 2019, 06:12:40 PM »

Barnes said he lost weight as he pondered his options.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26538172/ucla-paid-buyout-left

You have got to be sh*tting me.

So that's what I need to do to drop some pounds.  Thanks, Coach Barnes.
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« Reply #895 on: April 16, 2019, 06:29:53 PM »
What names would be interested in Marquette that are better than the names being floated out here this year?  I’m curious

Marquette beats St Johns in facilities, recent history, resources, and salary (HC and assistants).  Id argue arena as well, but you can make the argument for MSG.

Not saying that Marquette would get Gregg Marshall or Tony Bennett, but to say Marquette would only attract the caliber of coaches that SJU would get just isn't true.

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« Reply #896 on: April 16, 2019, 06:33:13 PM »
Marquette beats St Johns in facilities, recent history, resources, and salary (HC and assistants).  Id argue arena as well, but you can make the argument for MSG.

Not saying that Marquette would get Gregg Marshall or Tony Bennett, but to say Marquette would only attract the caliber of coaches that SJU would get just isn't true.

Fair enough. 
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« Reply #897 on: April 16, 2019, 07:14:51 PM »
Not saying that Marquette would get Gregg Marshall or Tony Bennett, but to say Marquette would only attract the caliber of coaches that SJU would get just isn't true.

I agree that MU is a significantly better job than SJU. But I’m not sure I agree that MU would have attracted a proportionately better candidate than SJU - and that’s not just based on timing, it’s more a matter of supply.

Look at all the hires that were made this cycle. Where would an MU hire likely slot in? I think the best case scenario would have been a mid major coach with significant experience like Musselman or maybe Oats. With all the competition though, there’s a really good chance they’d miss on Oats who was the only slam dunk mid major hire in that category IMHO. Even if MU had moved on right after the tournament, I think there’s a greater than 50% chance that search ends with Wardle.

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« Reply #898 on: April 17, 2019, 03:50:05 PM »
St. John's is having a tumultuous search, to say the least.  Mike Repole just gave a pretty damning interview about the process.  It sounds like they are pivoting towards Ryan Odom, James Jones and/or Frank Haith.  Haith would be an awful hire.

Sounds like there is much disagreement between leadership at the school, administration and the athletic department. 

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« Reply #899 on: April 17, 2019, 03:55:23 PM »
St. John's is having a tumultuous search, to say the least.  Mike Repole just gave a pretty damning interview about the process.  It sounds like they are pivoting towards Ryan Odom, James Jones and/or Frank Haith.  Haith would be an awful hire.

Sounds like there is much disagreement between leadership at the school, administration and the athletic department.

Repole doesn’t have a Derby horse this year. Of course he’s throwing his weight around a coaching search. Yawn.
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