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DegenerateDish

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2019, 12:24:01 AM »
Avery Johnson out at Bama.

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2019, 06:56:14 AM »
Avery Johnson out at Bama.

Bama let him run the show for four years, didn't do much, now they can him.  Was making 3M per year.

Losing to Norfolk State in NIT was not good for him.  Even though a football school, still in the SEC and will be coveted by a lot of potential coaches.  Same with LSU after Wade is canned. 

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« Reply #152 on: March 22, 2019, 08:41:53 AM »
Drew out after 3 years at Vandy. Wow.
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2019, 08:45:47 AM »
Drew out after 3 years at Vandy. Wow.

How will their program ever recover

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #154 on: March 22, 2019, 09:15:08 AM »
How will their program ever recover

If they keep changing coaches every three years, they never will.  They should be realistic about who they are
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #155 on: March 22, 2019, 09:17:21 AM »
Stupid of Vandy, Drew was signing some big time recruits.
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« Reply #156 on: March 22, 2019, 09:22:20 AM »
Drew out after 3 years at Vandy. Wow.

Vanderbilt was 0-19 in the SEC this year. That's why Bryce Drew was fired.

If one of our coaches had a season like that, we wouldn't fire him. We'd burn him at the stake.

Vandy basketball fans do not have the expectations we do but their expectations are far higher than what Drew has been able to do in his three years there.

Sorry to see him go but I have a big warm spot in my heart for Vandy basketball and I'm sorrier that they've fallen to this depth.

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2019, 09:27:07 AM »
If they keep changing coaches every three years, they never will.  They should be realistic about who they are

That's been a weird little carousel of good but not great programs and what seems to be a lack of direction. Pitt fires Dixon, who always did well there. Dixon goes to TCU and does about as well as TCU can probably hope to do. Pitt replaces Dixon with Stallings (I think you would have been hard pressed to find people that thought Stallings was a better coach than Dixon, even at the time).  Stallings had done well at Vandy, but he flames out in tremendous fashion at Pitt. Now Vandy in kind of a tough spot - you just cannot lose every conference game in your third year and expect to keep your job. But is Vandy going to do much better than a young coach with a good pedigree like Bryce Drew?

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« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2019, 09:29:31 AM »
A bit of a surprise, yet the AD is not the one who hired Drew.

Pitt never fired Dixon. He left for TCU.
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« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2019, 09:39:29 AM »
Would Wojo go to Alabama for $3 million a year? Enquiring minds want to know?
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« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2019, 01:57:38 PM »
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« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2019, 01:58:22 PM »

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« Reply #162 on: March 22, 2019, 05:34:10 PM »
That's been a weird little carousel of good but not great programs and what seems to be a lack of direction. Pitt fires Dixon, who always did well there. Dixon goes to TCU and does about as well as TCU can probably hope to do. Pitt replaces Dixon with Stallings (I think you would have been hard pressed to find people that thought Stallings was a better coach than Dixon, even at the time).  Stallings had done well at Vandy, but he flames out in tremendous fashion at Pitt. Now Vandy in kind of a tough spot - you just cannot lose every conference game in your third year and expect to keep your job. But is Vandy going to do much better than a young coach with a good pedigree like Bryce Drew?

Stallings had mixed results at Vandy. He was set to be fired and jumped when Pitt shockingly offered. Stallings was good at x’s and o’s and player development. He was not a good recruiter. He by all accounts relied heavily on a few different assistants over the years for that. Stallings often had the attitude that Vandy was lucky to have him. Vandy wanted better more even success. Stallings of course in NCAA’s one year lost to...wait for it...Murray St. with a big slow Vandy team that got spread out by the Racers speed and ability to knock down shots. A few years of really strong regular seasons that ended in early NCAA upsets due to bad matchups.

Drew situation is unusual.

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« Reply #163 on: March 22, 2019, 05:36:07 PM »
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He would be silly not to. Only thing sillier, would be Bama making that offer. We all know he is next coach at Duke.

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« Reply #164 on: March 22, 2019, 05:37:16 PM »
Stallings had mixed results at Vandy. He was set to be fired and jumped when Pitt shockingly offered. Stallings was good at x’s and o’s and player development. He was not a good recruiter. He by all accounts relied heavily on a few different assistants over the years for that. Stallings often had the attitude that Vandy was lucky to have him. Vandy wanted better more even success. Stallings of course in NCAA’s one year lost to...wait for it...Murray St. with a big slow Vandy team that got spread out by the Racers speed and ability to knock down shots. A few years of really strong regular seasons that ended in early NCAA upsets due to bad matchups.

Drew situation is unusual.

Stallings arrived at PITT, believe 10 of the 12 players then left and he recruited no one.  Very short tenure as coach. 

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« Reply #165 on: March 22, 2019, 05:41:51 PM »
Stallings arrived at PITT, believe 10 of the 12 players then left and he recruited no one.  Very short tenure as coach.

Stallings is the guy Chico wanted instead of Buzz. Established coach. Bad, but established. Which is nice.

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« Reply #166 on: March 22, 2019, 05:45:36 PM »
Stallings is the guy Chico wanted instead of Buzz. Established coach. Bad, but established. Which is nice.

My best friend is a PITT diehard and he told me that Stallings was a complete jerk just weeks into his stint.  Then, one by one, the players left, no players were recruited and PITT has had just a brutal record the past three years.  Just brutal. 

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« Reply #167 on: March 22, 2019, 05:57:41 PM »
Stallings is the guy Chico wanted instead of Buzz. Established coach. Bad, but established. Which is nice.

Stallings wasn’t necessarily bad at Vandy. He beat Buzz twice. Until the end of his tenure at Vandy he was a regular NCAA participant.
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« Reply #168 on: March 22, 2019, 06:00:35 PM »
Stallings is a better actor than coach. Was pretty good in Zodiac
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« Reply #169 on: March 22, 2019, 06:21:41 PM »
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« Reply #170 on: March 22, 2019, 07:35:28 PM »
Stallings is the guy Chico wanted instead of Buzz. Established coach. Bad, but established. Which is nice.

Yup, guy with almost 500 wins.  And when I wanted him, among others, he was doing just fine.  Two time SEC Coach of the year, two time MVC coach of the year.  Yup, what a terrible choice....almost as bad as simply sweeping a rape under the rug but since you liked the coach it was ok and should just be ignore.  Nothing to see here....
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« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2019, 07:42:08 PM »
Yup, guy with almost 500 wins.  And when I wanted him, among others, he was doing just fine.  Two time SEC Coach of the year, two time MVC coach of the year.  Yup, what a terrible choice....almost as bad as simply sweeping a rape under the rug but since you liked the coach it was ok and should just be ignore.  Nothing to see here....

"Sweeping rape under the rug" slander and lies notwithstanding, What's Stallings record since 2008-09? What's Buzz's? The real reason you hate him is he eclipsed TC at MU and made a fool out of your opposition to his hiring. #Phony Outrage

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« Reply #172 on: March 22, 2019, 08:58:36 PM »
"Sweeping rape under the rug" slander and lies notwithstanding, What's Stallings record since 2008-09? What's Buzz's? The real reason you hate him is he eclipsed TC at MU and made a fool out of your opposition to his hiring. #Phony Outrage

Not slander and lies. Just because it didn't get convicted does not mean it did not happen
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« Reply #173 on: March 22, 2019, 09:44:35 PM »
Slow to get it going, before Stallings’ 5th season at Vandy, he was told by then Chancellor Gordon Gee that he needed to make the NCAA Tourney that season or he would be fired. Stallings was very upset at this. But, he made the tourney, kept his job a long time. He tried to land Big Ten state school jobs earlier on while at Vandy. A Purdue guy, he tried for Ohio St. once. He even said he would have gone to Indiana if considered, (he wasn’t) but eventually he realized he had a good thing at Vandy, little pressure. However, Vandy has changed where expectations are higher than what he was producing. He had some very good seasons, but his results were way too uneven over time. His dream job was North Carolina. He cashed out at Pitt while his son (UNC) was a minor league catcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates organization.

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« Reply #174 on: March 22, 2019, 09:47:02 PM »
"Sweeping rape under the rug" slander and lies notwithstanding, What's Stallings record since 2008-09? What's Buzz's? The real reason you hate him is he eclipsed TC at MU and made a fool out of your opposition to his hiring. #Phony Outrage

Slander and lies....uhm....no.   Sorry, I care about how he treated people (TC didn't treat people well either), and the damage he did to the school, how unprofessional his final year was and his comments on his way out.  #characterrevealed  Remind me about Buzz's Final Four again at MU, or anywhere for that matter. 

Stallings, when Crean left, was coming off a 26-8 season and 3rd in the SEC.  The year prior to that he finished 2nd in the SEC.  Yes, he was a very good coach and at the top of his game.  The next four years he averaged 23 wins a year and went to the NCAA tournament 3 of those years.  At a school that is a bitch to get into and has to take on schools in his conference where a pulse will suffice.  Stallings was a well regarded coach, ESPECIALLY in 2008 when we were looking to hire.  He couldn't just recruit anyone because of Vanderbilt's standards.
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