Lineup changes

[f/k/a humanlung]

I too argued for Howland, and I have concluded we're better off with Wojo. Will you also acknowledge that, in hindsight, Howland would not have been better for MU than Wojo?

Howland: 77-54 (.588) in 4 seasons; 0 NCAA; 1 NIT; projected as a 6 seed on Bracketology.
Wojo:      96-67 (.589) in 5 seasons; 1 NCAA; 1 NIT; projected as a 5 seed on Bracketology.

Virtually identical resumes, even though Howland brought 19 years of previous head coaching experience, while this is Wojo's first HC gig. Given the near-identical results, I'll take the young guy who is still learning every day.

I don't know.  Wojo was working with a bigger budget and at a school that has a much better basketball history/reputation.  One can make the case that a "push" between the two, considering Mississippi State's starting point, is a win for Mississippi State and Howland.

[f/k/a humanlung]

Honestly what is wrong with his Xs and Os? This team has generally done well out of timeouts and out of bounds plays.  It's a team that needs a better ball handling guard.  Wojo knew this.  He didn't get Grimes and Chartouny has been a big disappointment.

I agree.  It's the in-game adjustments that are an area for improvement, in my opinion.

[Badgerhater]

Lineup changes are not what is needed.  This team has enough offensive weapons to make a team pay for a particular defensive approach, but that requires the team to adjust.

[GooooMarquette]

I don't know.  Wojo was working with a bigger budget and at a school that has a much better basketball history/reputation.  One can make the case that a "push" between the two, considering Mississippi State's starting point, is a win for Mississippi State and Howland.

Yeah, but except for this season, the BE has been better than the SEC. Two #1 seeds last year, more bids in both '16 and '17 even though it's a smaller conference, etc.

I'd say a push makes it a push....

[f/k/a humanlung]

Yeah, but except for this season, the BE has been better than the SEC. Two #1 seeds last year, more bids in both '16 and '17 even though it's a smaller conference, etc.

I'd say a push makes it a push....

We have to stop.  This is actually turning into a civil discussion on a difference of opinion on Scoop.  Everyone knows we just can't have that!

[muguru]

Sam NEEDS to have the ball more in his hands in the last 5 minutes...I have told people as far back as last year after the season that I hoped next year, if the game is tight in the last 5 minutes, that Sam has the ball more then Markus. I also agree with the Sam handling the ball more..Joey too..give Markus some help with the ball handling duties...also pulls their bigs out to the perimeter.

So, two bigs won't work in today's game, is what everyone THINKS...What do we think Duke who starts 6'10" Marques Bolden with Zion Williamson, or UNC who starts 6'9" Luke Maye along side of 6'10" Garrison Brooks, or Michigan State who starts Nick Ward(when healthy), and Kenny Goins, or heck how about UW who starts Ethan Happ and Nate Reuvers?? Think they feel like two bigs together doesn't work?? I said in SMALL stretches...

[Cheeks]

I don't know.  Wojo was working with a bigger budget and at a school that has a much better basketball history/reputation.  One can make the case that a "push" between the two, considering Mississippi State's starting point, is a win for Mississippi State and Howland.

Howland is working at a school and conference that has easier academic standards, warmer weather, warmer coeds, etc.  Schools of that size use revenues from football and other sports to cover off on costs that MU's basketball revenues / expenses have to.  You want a weight room, MU basketball is paying for that...at a SEC school, the basketball program isn't but has the opportunity to use a state of the art weight training facility that the football revenues covered.

Let's look at it from both sides.

[Cheeks]

In today's game, I seriously cannot believe that anyone is suggesting we play Ed and Theo together. That would be a complete disaster.

I'm okay with starting Ed/giving him more minutes.

Definitely okay with more JC/BB over JH as well

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[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Sam NEEDS to have the ball more in his hands in the last 5 minutes...I have told people as far back as last year after the season that I hoped next year, if the game is tight in the last 5 minutes, that Sam has the ball more then Markus. I also agree with the Sam handling the ball more..Joey too..give Markus some help with the ball handling duties...also pulls their bigs out to the perimeter.

So, two bigs won't work in today's game, is what everyone THINKS...What do we think Duke who starts 6'10" Marques Bolden with Zion Williamson, or UNC who starts 6'9" Luke Maye along side of 6'10" Garrison Brooks, or Michigan State who starts Nick Ward(when healthy), and Kenny Goins, or heck how about UW who starts Ethan Happ and Nate Reuvers?? Think they feel like two bigs together doesn't work?? I said in SMALL stretches...

Goins, Ruevers, and Maye can all make a 3.  All can handle the ball a bit.  Reuvers and Maye are also very good post players.

Even Zion has hit a handful of threes.  Plus,  Zion can dribble drive and finish with a freakish combination of strength & athleticism.

Now compare that to John and Morrow.   Neither can faceup and shoot.  Neither can handle the ball.  Post moves, limited. It would be an offensive disaster.

[tower912]

From an offensive spacing perspective, it would be as bad or worse than Gardner and Otule.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

From an offensive spacing perspective, it would be as bad or worse than Gardner and Otule.

Gardner at least could play a little 10-15 FT out.

[NickelDimer]

Sam NEEDS to have the ball more in his hands in the last 5 minutes...I have told people as far back as last year after the season that I hoped next year, if the game is tight in the last 5 minutes, that Sam has the ball more then Markus. I also agree with the Sam handling the ball more..Joey too..give Markus some help with the ball handling duties...also pulls their bigs out to the perimeter.

So, two bigs won't work in today's game, is what everyone THINKS...What do we think Duke who starts 6'10" Marques Bolden with Zion Williamson, or UNC who starts 6'9" Luke Maye along side of 6'10" Garrison Brooks, or Michigan State who starts Nick Ward(when healthy), and Kenny Goins, or heck how about UW who starts Ethan Happ and Nate Reuvers?? Think they feel like two bigs together doesn't work?? I said in SMALL stretches...

No one said two big men together can’t work. Just that our two big men together won’t work

[GooooMarquette]

No one said two big men together can’t work. Just that our two big men together won’t work

Agreed. If one of the bigs is as mobile and versatile as Zion, or plays away from the hoop like Happ, a second big can be great. But when both can only score within 3 feet of the hoop, it would create a constant logjam.

Ed and Theo are both solid at what they do, but they would be a disaster on the court together.

[Cheeks]

No one said two big men together can’t work. Just that our two big men together won’t work

Yup.  Our two bigs are same type of offensive player.  If one had range on his shot, perhaps.

[Stretchdeltsig]

No one said two big men together can’t work. Just that our two big men together won’t work

Exactly.  Keep in mind that Sam at 6'8" and Joey at 6'9" work well together with either Ed at 6'7" or Theo at 6'9".  And often Baily at 6'8" plays well with any combination.  We are blessed with a long and tall group of Warriors.

[NickelDimer]

Exactly.  Keep in mind that Sam at 6'8" and Joey at 6'9" work well together with either Ed at 6'7" or Theo at 6'9".  And often Baily at 6'8" plays well with any combination.  We are blessed with a long and tall group of Warriors.

All that height and so few post touches. I seriously don’t get why that’s not a staple of our offense

[denverMU]

I would like to see Baily start instead of Joey and have Sacar at point and Markus off the ball.  I think th first makes a better defensive team and we don't lose anything on offense.  Second move should free Markus up for more shots.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I would like to see Baily start instead of Joey and have Sacar at point and Markus off the ball.  I think th first makes a better defensive team and we don't lose anything on offense.  Second move should free Markus up for more shots.

I like the idea of Joey off the bench.  A fresh Joey would matchup against either a backup or tired starter.  That might give him an edge that boosts his scoring.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I would like to see Baily start instead of Joey and have Sacar at point and Markus off the ball.  I think th first makes a better defensive team and we don't lose anything on offense.  Second move should free Markus up for more shots.

We don't lose anything on offense....assuming Bailey can play like he did last game every game and that Joey doesn't play like he did last game every game.