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Author Topic: (was within 1 spot on each of top 17) logic for putting Marquette #12 this week  (Read 950 times)

Marquetteauburn

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http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2019/01/putting-mu-no12-in-week-of-upsets-that.html

SCHOOL   my new   Pudner Notes on games - kenpom ratings   AP   Coaches   Net (Fri)
Duke   1   No changes in top 9, all solid   1   2   2
Virginia   2   No changes in top 9, all solid   4   1   1
Michigan   3   No changes in top 9, all solid   2   4   3
Tennessee   4   No changes in top 9, all solid   3   3   5
Michigan St.   5   No changes in top 9, all solid   6   5   7
Texas Tech   6   No changes in top 9, all solid   8   8   4
Gonzaga   7   No changes in top 9, all solid   5   6   6
Virginia Tech   8   No changes in top 9, all solid   9   7   10
Kansas   9   No changes in top 9, all solid   7   9   11
Florida St.   10   beat Miami and heartbreak loss to Duke   13   13   19
Nevada   11   rebounded with 2 wins   10   11   27
Marquette   12   win at 37 Creighton and vs 46 Seton Hall that beat Kentucky, and LOTS of publicity   21   19   21
Auburn   13   loss at 30 Ole Miss doesn't look that bad after Miss then won at Miss State, then killed 91 Crean's Georgia   11   10   24
North Carolina   14   won at 25 NC State, but destroyed at home by MU victim 26 Louisville   12   12   8
Kentucky   15   home wins vs 88 Texas A&M and 83 Vanderbilt, but with MU wins more impressive could pass   18   18   12
Buffalo   16   won home vs 69 Toledo and 181 Miami, but with no teams left between them and an MU team that beat them may pass   19   20   14
NC State   17   won at home vs 80 Pitt, but lost at home to 10 UNC who then was destroyed by MU victim Louisville   15   16   17
Oklahoma   18   lost at 8 Texas Tech, beat 22 TCU   23   22   15
Villanova   19   IF THEY BEAT CREIGHTON SUNDAY 11 AM - IF MOVE OTHERS UP. won at home vs St Johns   26   27   29
Houston   20   lost at 71 Temple, at home 9 pt win vs 129 Wichita   17   15   9
Iowa   21   won at 57 NW and home 29 Ohio State   28   25   35
Maryland   22   won at 52 MN and home vs 23 Indiana   32   50   20
Ole Miss   23   2 big wins 11 Auburn and at 28 Miss State   50   50   28
Louisville   24   lost at 79 Pitt in OT, destroyed 10 UNC on road   36   50   32
Purdue   25   lost at 3 Michigan State, at 14 Wisconsin   30   50   18
UCF   26   won home 71 Temple, at 83 Uconn    35   30   31
Kansas St.   27   won vs 66 West Virginia, at 17 Iowa State   43   37   53
Wisconsin   28   won at 58 Penn State, lost home 16 Purdue   27   26   22
Seton Hall   29   beat 39 Butler lost at 33 Marquette   33   32   45
Florida   30   won at 55 Arkansas, lost home 5 Tennessee   39   50   39
TCU   31   2 road losses to good team   25   28   34
LSU   32   beat 66 Bama, then on road best 55 Arkansas   50   50   25
Mississippi St.   33   lost at 113 South Carolina and home vs 30 Mississippi   14   14   30
Ohio St.   34   lost at 112 Rutgers and 35 Iowa   16   17   36
Indiana   35   2 road losses to good team   22   24   23


« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 02:27:13 PM by Marquetteauburn »

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Re: my logic for putting Marquette #12 this week
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 12:49:47 AM »
The problem is writers and coaches don’t have the time to go through every team and play the transitive property game. And if you do that with other teams we’d look worse too. For example, Maryland beats IU, who smokes us. So should they jump us? We’ll be around 16 and that is completely fine.
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Marquetteauburn

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Re: my logic for putting Marquette #12 this week
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 05:23:40 PM »
Agreed, and it was weird having Indiana and St John's right behind us and buffalo right ahead of us. The good timing we might have is that last week was the first time since Wade that most people I've talked to outside Marquette circles saw the Creighton clips. My guess is that translates to many writers and coaches also catching their first real glimpse and wondering who else MU has played, and not a bad day to then have lville drilling unc. Probably a couple of spots optimistic and maybe 14 is really best case, but a lot of teams losing in front of us. Will be better to have a second BE team in Nova ranked as well, but scary how good they looked today.

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Re: (was within 1 spot on 16 of top 17) logic for Marquette #12 this week
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2019, 02:28:33 PM »
Apparently I think more like the coaches, since the ranking I listed was within 1 spot for each of the top 17 in their new poll except for having Gonzaga at #7 and Coaches put them #5. My one off included flipping my home town Auburn and Marquette in the 12 & 13 spot

1   Virginia (13)   flipped 1 & 2
2   Duke (6)   
3   Tennessee (7)   flipped 3 & 4
4   Michigan (6)   
5   Gonzaga   I put them 2 lower than the coaches
6   Michigan State   1 higher
7   Virginia Tech   1 lower
8   Kansas   1 lower
9   Texas Tech   1 higher
10   Nevada   flipped 10 & 11
11   Florida State   
12   Auburn   flipped 12 & 13
13   Marquette   
14   Kentucky   flipped 14 & 15
15   North Carolina   
16   North Carolina State   1 lower
17   Buffalo   1 higher
17   Houston   2 lower
19   Oklahoma   1 higher
20   Ole Miss   3 lower
21   Villanova   2 higher
22   Maryland   exact
23   Mississippi State   did not include, but agree
24   Iowa   3 higher
25   Indiana   included Purdue instead of them, ultimate insult!
« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 02:30:18 PM by Marquetteauburn »

 

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