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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Brew,  completely agree. There are no unwinnable games left. I only meant that we will almost certainly be dogs in those two games.

I also don't believe that Butler is invincible at home, but I won't believe that we will beat them until we do. They have had Wojos number. I feel the same way about Creighton beating us
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MUBigDance

1 MU 14-4 -I can't believe I'm saying this
2 Creighton 13-5
3 Seton Hall 11-7
4 Nova 10-8
5 Butler 10-8
6 StJ 8-10
7 GT 6-12
8 Prov 6-12
9 DePaul 6-12
10 Xavier 6-12

7-10 was a mess so I have them all at 6-12. One of em will be worse and one better.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 23, 2018, 09:28:25 AM
Thoughts on the league...

Villanova: Expecting mixed early results, but a late push will get them around the 5/6 line and look like an incredibly dangerous team.
Seton Hall: The team I was most wrong on. Powell is the most likely challenger to Howard's BEPOY bid. Solid tourney team.
Creighton: Think Marquette 2016-2018. Offense will steal some games, defense will lose some. Bubble team.
Butler: As Kamar Baldwin goes, so go the Bulldogs. He's been terrible in their losses and great in their wins. Probably a tourney team.
Providence: This is the team that will beat some of the top teams but lose to the bottom. They don't really do anything particularly well. They look like a NIT team.
St. John's: When you're undefeated & your Pomeroy ranking has dropped for a month, that screams paper tiger. No size & haven't beat anyone of significance. Maybe not as severe, but I expect a repeat of last year's strong start & precipitous fall.
DePaul: Dave Leitao's best DePaul team in his second go around.
Xavier: They just haven't beat anyone.
Georgetown: They also haven't beat anyone, and have two freshmen in the backcourt.

Dead wrong on ST johns,  just because they have played a weak schedule doesnt mean they are a paper tiger.  Doesnt mean they are not either.  Bottom line is we dont know.
From what ive seen they are a top 5 team in the league.  They had a really solid finish to the end of last year.  Added figueroa who is a really nice player and heron who was the best player on a top 10 team last year.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on December 23, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
13-5 or 12-6 sounds right.  The conference is certainly down this year but 15-3 is a little far fetched, IMO.  Will be interesting to see how this team does in their first few road games in conference.

We've only played one road game so far and got throttled by a solid, not great Indiana team.  I think the team has improved since then but there are plenty of places where it is not easy to win in this conference- even if it is a down year for some of those teams.

Indian is much better than ur goving the credit for.  With that ssid game was lost in the first 5 minutes.  They have two first round draft picks and some other really nice pieces.  How many teams have two draft picks
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: MUBigDance on December 23, 2018, 07:05:42 PM
1 MU 14-4 -I can't believe I'm saying this
2 Creighton 13-5
3 Seton Hall 11-7
4 Nova 10-8
5 Butler 10-8
6 StJ 8-10
7 GT 6-12
8 Prov 6-12
9 DePaul 6-12
10 Xavier 6-12

7-10 was a mess so I have them all at 6-12. One of em will be worse and one better.

Huh???
This im guessing might be the worst projection of them all
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

brewcity77

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 23, 2018, 07:42:30 PMDead wrong on ST johns,  just because they have played a weak schedule doesnt mean they are a paper tiger.  Doesnt mean they are not either.  Bottom line is we dont know.

Well, they're predictions, so duh we don't know. But St. John's doesn't look remotely as good as their record. They struggled with Cal, Bowling Green, and Georgia Tech. VCU has not been good and SJU needed a comeback & overtime.

What I said is they keep winning & their rating keeps dropping. What that means is that while they are getting wins, they are doing so in a fashion that indicates they're not as good as the results they've posted. All the other undefeated teams have either seen their rankings hold firm or improve significantly as new data comes in. St. John's, on the other hand, has dropped sharply while playing one of the worst schedules in the country (#344 per Pomeroy).

Yes, they could prove to be as good as their record, but that's not what the data to date indicates. And having watched them a few times against some pretty bad teams, I have not been impressed. They have some talent, but are poorly coached and undersized.

MuMark

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 23, 2018, 04:27:47 PM
I am worried about:

@SJU -  when is the last time we won in NY? A couple of years ago at MSG it was the worst game I've ever seen MU play in person.
@Creighton
@Butler - McDermott flops like Davison
@Prov
@Nova

9-0 at home, avoid one of these and it's 14-4. Should be good enough.

2016 we beat SJ on the road and in the BET at MSG.

Lennys Tap

Barring major injury I'd say our floor is 12-6.

Ceiling? Maybe 16-2.

Prediction: 14-4

PGsHeroes32

Seton Hall was probably underrated to start the year


Now quickly becoming overrated
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

I will say 13-5. Winning on the road is hard.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

jsglow

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 24, 2018, 12:44:55 AM
Seton Hall was probably underrated to start the year


Now quickly becoming overrated

This.  I was in the camp that thought they would be terrible.  But let's not get too excited yet.  Actually looking forward to that SHU/Johnnie game although I probably won't see it.

WarriorDad

Pomeroy has it


Team   Conf   
Villanova   12-6   
Butler   11-7   
Marquette   11-7   
Creighton   10-8   
St. John's   9-9   
Seton Hall   9-9   
Providence 8-10   
Xavier   8-10   
DePaul   6-12   
Georgetown 6-12   
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

MarquetteDano

Quote from: WarriorDad on December 24, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
Pomeroy has it


Team   Conf   
Villanova   12-6   
Butler   11-7   
Marquette   11-7   
Creighton   10-8   
St. John's   9-9   
Seton Hall   9-9   
Providence 8-10   
Xavier   8-10   
DePaul   6-12   
Georgetown 6-12

I think for once Pomeroy is short changing us.  I think our floor is 12-6 and an outside chance of going 14-4.  Looking at Sagarin's numbers:
Home: 8-1 (favored in all of them)

Has DePaul and G'Town to be the road locks: 2-0

Has pick-em games at Xavier, Hall, St. John's, Providence:  If you go 2-2 there

Then the remaining road games where he has us as a dog (Creighton, Butler, Nova).  Maybe steal one?

That would be 13-5.



MUBigDance

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 23, 2018, 07:49:42 PM
Huh???
This im guessing might be the worst projection of them all

Love it.
By the way Sand-knit. For someone with strong opinions on others, I don't see your 10? Don't be "head in the Sand, sitting by Knitting"

😜

Herman Cain

Villanova 13-5
MU 12-6
The Hall 11-7
Providence 10-8
Butler 9-9
The Johnnies 9-9
Creighton 8-10
Georgetown 7-11
Xavier 6-12
DePaul 5-13

If there is upside to this , the wins will come at the expense of Xavier and DePaul . I actually think Xavier may be worse than DePaul but I am still giving them credit for their home court advantage.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Silkk the Shaka

1) Marquette 15-3
2) Villanova 15-3
3) Butler 12-6
4) Seton Hall 11-7
5) St. John's 9-9
6) Providence 9-9
7) Creighton 9-9
8) Xavier 5-13
9) Georgetown 3-15
10) DePaul 2-16


Lennys Tap

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 23, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Barring major injury I'd say our floor is 12-6.

Ceiling? Maybe 16-2.

Prediction: 14-4

With 4 games left we were 12-2, our ceiling (16-2) and floor(12-6) established. Didn't see the floor materializing from there. Oh well...

brewcity77

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 23, 2018, 07:42:30 PM
Dead wrong on ST johns

You know why I didn't bring this up repeatedly all year like you did? Because all the blathering you did the past three months was meaningless. I missed plenty, but I was dead right on St John's. 7th place, 8-10 in the league.

🏀

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 09, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
You know why I didn't bring this up repeatedly all year like you did? Because all the blathering you did the past three months was meaningless. I missed plenty, but I was dead right on St John's. 7th place, 8-10 in the league.

Kick his ass Seabass

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: WarriorDad on December 24, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
Pomeroy has it


Team   Conf   
Villanova   12-6   
Butler   11-7   
Marquette   11-7   
Creighton   10-8   
St. John's   9-9   
Seton Hall   9-9   
Providence 8-10   
Xavier   8-10   
DePaul   6-12   
Georgetown 6-12

Butler and Georgetown were big misses but the rest were within one game or dead on.

tower912

Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2018, 10:31:09 AM
12-6.  More road losses  than we would like.
Nailed it. The manner in which it came to be was painful.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NickelDimer

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 09, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
You know why I didn't bring this up repeatedly all year like you did? Because all the blathering you did the past three months was meaningless. I missed plenty, but I was dead right on St John's. 7th place, 8-10 in the league.
Trump card ishyude
No Finish Line

frozena pizza

Before the season I was thinking around 11 to 13 wins in the BE. After the St. John's game I would have said 9-9. At 12-2 I would have said 15-3. I honestly don't expect a win at MSG but hope I'm wrong.

LloydsLegs

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 24, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
Villanova 13-5
MU 12-6
The Hall 11-7
Providence 10-8
Butler 9-9
The Johnnies 9-9
Creighton 8-10
Georgetown 7-11
Xavier 6-12
DePaul 5-13

If there is upside to this , the wins will come at the expense of Xavier and DePaul . I actually think Xavier may be worse than DePaul but I am still giving them credit for their home court advantage.

Pretty solid.

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