Bracketology Thread 2018-19

[MarquetteDano]

Okay when do we start talking about Des Moines and Columbus? Want to be there. MSU and Michigan looking to take two spots.

Not that  many spots left. Dont we need to start cheering against teams near our locale and seed and for teams further away? For instance Looeyville and Iowa/Iowa State/UW-Madison and others near us geographically and seed?

[HowardsWorld]

Today we want the following teams to win:

Tennessee over Kentucky
Maryland over Michigan
Wake Forest over North Carolina
Penn State over Purdue


As far as Iowa St there conference should take care of them with more losses as the season goes on. For Madison we would have to really collapse at this point and they would need to win out to even have a discussion on them beating us out for a location.

As much as I hate to say it that Michigan St win over Wisconsin was huge. If Wisconsin would have won I could have seen Marquette jumping over them. That would have been 4 losses in their last 5 games. Now they just added another Q1 road win. I can't seem them falling off the 2 line even with 2 losses to Michigan.

[MarquetteDano]

Today we want the following teams to win:

Tennessee over Kentucky
Maryland over Michigan
Wake Forest over North Carolina
Penn State over Kentucky

Crap forgot about Kentucky. They would take another Columbus spot. Too many good teams near these sites.

[wisblue]

If MU keeps winning they have a good chance to jump over Michigan. It seems to be going unnoticed that Michigan was one of the top teams in the country the first few weeks of the season, but since early December they have been very mediocre. A favorable early B10 schedule has allowed them to stay near the top of the B10, butbthey have home and homes remaining with Maryland and MSU and a game at Minnesota. Given how they have played on the road in the B10 and at home in narrow wins over Minnesota and Wisconsin they could easily be looking at 3 or 4 more losses.

Unlike other recent Beilein teams, this year’s version has not improved since November, mainly because none of their reserves have stepped up to bolster their shaky depth.

[Not A Serious Person]

The record percentage of a conference to make the tourney was the BE two years ago at 70%, 7 of 10, including MU. The old record was the BE again in 2011 when 11 of 16, or 68%, got in, also including an S16 MU.

Currently, Lundari has 8 of 10 (80%) of the Big 12 teams getting in.  This would be a new record.

Interestingly, none are better than a #3 seed (Kansas) and TCU at 17-8 (5-7) is in. Oklahoma at 16-10 (4-9) is a "last four in" team.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

So, does the Big 12 take out the BE record for highest percentage of the conference to get in?

[wadesworld]

The record percentage of a conference to make the tourney was the BE two years ago at 70%, 7 of 10, including MU. The old record was the BE again in 2011 when 11 of 16, or 68%, got in, also including an S16 MU.

Currently, Lundari has 8 of 10 (80%) of the Big 12 teams getting in.  This would be a new record.

Interestingly, none are better than a #3 seed (Kansas) and TCU at 17-8 (5-7) is in. Oklahoma at 16-10 (4-9) is a "last four in" team.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

So, does the Big 12 take out the BE record for highest percentage of the conference to get in?

We’ll see in 29 days.

[lawdog77]

The record percentage of a conference to make the tourney was the BE two years ago at 70%, 7 of 10, including MU. The old record was the BE again in 2011 when 11 of 16, or 68%, got in, also including an S16 MU.

Currently, Lundari has 8 of 10 (80%) of the Big 12 teams getting in.  This would be a new record.

Interestingly, none are better than a #3 seed (Kansas) and TCU at 17-8 (5-7) is in. Oklahoma at 16-10 (4-9) is a "last four in" team.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

So, does the Big 12 take out the BE record for highest percentage of the conference to get in?

no way Oklahoma makes it in if they are 5+ games under .500 in league play. Lazy journalism

[HowardsWorld]

no way Oklahoma makes it in if they are 5+ games under .500 in league play. Lazy journalism

Actually its not lazy journalism at all. During the halftime report of the K-State/Iowa State game one of the anchors asked him in a littler 3 minute segment specifically about Oklahoma and being under .500 in league. Joe replyed he doesn't believe they are a tournament team but predicting based on how he thinks the committee will select. He actually game examples of 8 teams over the last 4 years who have made it with below .500 conference records. He said there were 4-6 teams this year that would make it with well below .500 records this year.

He also added that it was worse this year to past years because of the switch from RPI to Net Ranking using Kansas state as the example. He said they are 12 in RPI and 26 in NR.

[lawdog77]

I saw that. But again, the committee is not going to put a team in 5+ games under. IMO, He is going.by the computer numbers.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The record percentage of a conference to make the tourney was the BE two years ago at 70%, 7 of 10, including MU. The old record was the BE again in 2011 when 11 of 16, or 68%, got in, also including an S16 MU.

So by the Big East setting the record two years ago, do you mean the Big East tying the Big 12's record two years ago, a record that the Big 12 set in 2014 and has tied in 2015, 2016, and 2018?

[brewcity77]

The record percentage of a conference to make the tourney was the BE two years ago at 70%, 7 of 10, including MU. The old record was the BE again in 2011 when 11 of 16, or 68%, got in, also including an S16 MU.

Currently, Lundari has 8 of 10 (80%) of the Big 12 teams getting in.  This would be a new record.

Interestingly, none are better than a #3 seed (Kansas) and TCU at 17-8 (5-7) is in. Oklahoma at 16-10 (4-9) is a "last four in" team.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

So, does the Big 12 take out the BE record for highest percentage of the conference to get in?

This is all incorrect. The record percentage is 77.7% when 7/9 Big East teams made the field in 1991.

The Big 12 got to 70% before the new Big East did. They placed 7/10 in 2014, 2015, & 2016 before the Big East did it in 2017.

[wadesworld]

Lol.

[Cheeks]

Crap forgot about Kentucky. They would take another Columbus spot. Too many good teams near these sites.

A number of prognosticators saying Hartford or San Jose for us.  Too many top teams ahead of us that will bump us out.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Man, this day so far has done us zero favors, maybe Louisville winning was a good thing.

Kentucky up early on Tennessee, maybe the Vols can help us out. Not holding out a lot of hope that San Diego or Wyoming can knock of Gonzaga/Nevada but I guess it's possible.

[jsglow]

Man, this day so far has done us zero favors, maybe Louisville winning was a good thing.

Kentucky up early on Tennessee, maybe the Vols can help us out. Not holding out a lot of hope that San Diego or Wyoming can knock of Gonzaga/Nevada but I guess it's possible.

Other than MU failing to get a pod all together, what Gonzaga or Nevada do really doesn't matter.  They are taking 2 of the 4 western pods.  Frankly, Nevada falling out would be bad because then 3 teams have to take their pods west.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Other than MU failing to get a pod all together, what Gonzaga or Nevada do really doesn't matter.  They are taking 2 of the 4 western pods.  Frankly, Nevada falling out would be bad because then 3 teams have to take their pods west.

That's a good point,   but I'd rather have a higher seed out west then a lower one in Des Moines. I doubt we catch Gonzaga and I doubt Nevada gets to a 2 seed but you never know

[HowardsWorld]

That's a good point,   but I'd rather have a higher seed out west then a lower one in Des Moines. I doubt we catch Gonzaga and I doubt Nevada gets to a 2 seed but you never know

Don't know other peoples take on Gonzaga but frankly I am getting sick of them. Yes the beat Duke there is no denying that but outside of them they have no good wins. There conference year after year is average at best. They get seeded in the tournament based on their record in a weak WCC. Isnt it about time they join a real conference like the Pac 12?

Yes they were a fun story of a mid major around the year 2000 but they have been relevant for 20 years.  I would really like to see how they would do if they have to play the likes of Duke, North Carolina , Virigina, Syracuse, Villanova, Marquette, etc 2 x a year.

[brewcity77]

They're a year removed from a national championship appearance and do everything they can to schedule tough in the non-con. They went 6-2 against high majors in non-con play. What other conference could they join? Without football the Pac-12 is a non-starter. Maybe the Mountain West, but per Pomeroy 5/10 WCC teams are top-100 while just 3/11 MWC teams are.

[muguru]

They're a year removed from a national championship appearance and do everything they can to schedule tough in the non-con. They went 6-2 against high majors in non-con play. What other conference could they join? Without football the Pac-12 is a non-starter. Maybe the Mountain West, but per Pomeroy 5/10 WCC teams are top-100 while just 3/11 MWC teams are.

Brew, where is MU on your S-Curve today?? Move up at all after beating Nova??

[SaveOD238]

That's a good point,   but I'd rather have a higher seed out west then a lower one in Des Moines. I doubt we catch Gonzaga and I doubt Nevada gets to a 2 seed but you never know

You don't live in Wisconsin.  Des Moines is basically the only chance I have of being able to go to a game, since flying is out of the picture financially.

[brewcity77]

Brew, where is MU on your S-Curve today?? Move up at all after beating Nova??

I have them at #11, though I'm in the process of re-evaluating right now. At a quick glance, nothing that happened this week seems likely to change that.

[muguru]

I have them at #11, though I'm in the process of re-evaluating right now. At a quick glance, nothing that happened this week seems likely to change that.

What is the EASIEST(if there is one, which I have my doubts) to a 2 seed?? MU wins the rest of their regular season games, and Michigan loses 2?? But then Houston is in there as well, and they aren't losing again most likely.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You don't live in Wisconsin.  Des Moines is basically the only chance I have of being able to go to a game, since flying is out of the picture financially.

Again,  I'd rather have a better seed with less fans then a worse seed with more fans

[BM1090]

NBC Sports Update:

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/s-curve/
https://bracketville.wordpress.com/bracketology/

[HowardsWorld]

What is the EASIEST(if there is one, which I have my doubts) to a 2 seed?? MU wins the rest of their regular season games, and Michigan loses 2?? But then Houston is in there as well, and they aren't losing again most likely.

I would say Michigan St. They lost another starter in Nick Ward for most likely the rest of the regular season. A split with Michigan really does nothing for us.

My questions is at what point does that amount of losses take away from your Q1 wins. Kansas is the prefect example. They have 2 more losses than us, more Q1 wins but are ahead of us in the S curve. Yes they have the head to head but you think 4 losses vs 6 losses would start to lean more Marquette.  Michigan state has 5 losses but would they still be ahead of us with 7 losses?