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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2018, 08:01:30 AM »
How would u guys say howard compares to some of our better pg’s from the 90s and 00s.   

I see his raw talent and shot but as a real pg i think hes seriously lacking

Im almost wishing we had henry or hutch again instead.  Certainly diener

Markus is not really a point guard.  He is a shooting guard, who when he has an open shot is extremely dangerous.  Comparing him to former MU point guards is a waste of typing.  Been discussed over and over.

I wish we had Maurice Lucas again, but again wishing for former players and inserting them in the current lineup is not logical.

Wojo and staff probably didn't get a lot of sleep last night and lets see how the lineup is adjusted on Friday. 

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2018, 08:10:58 AM »
The problem is bigger than Markus.  When we hit a cold spell and the lead dwindles it seems everyone on the team starts to want to play hero ball instead of team ball.  Lets panic and jack up a shot.  That seems to be the mentality of the entire team (Sacar, Jamal, Joe C, Markus, Theo, etc., etc.).  Until that stops, expect more events to unfold like we saw last night.

Agreed, I call it a lack of composure.  What is the drill to regain composure?  Is it to slow down and run a set play that uses the full shot clock?   When the meltdown occurs we seem to try and speed things up and try to run with the opponent.  Same thing happens to me in golf, I get fast.  I think hero ball is panic and lack of composure.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2018, 08:21:45 AM »
Agreed, I call it a lack of composure.  What is the drill to regain composure?  Is it to slow down and run a set play that uses the full shot clock?   When the meltdown occurs we seem to try and speed things up and try to run with the opponent.  Same thing happens to me in golf, I get fast.  I think hero ball is panic and lack of composure.

...and I think that is passed onto the players by the Coach. Wojo is a high strung guy and even when he seems composed you can see he is ready to explode. He is always yelling in the huddles.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2018, 08:23:05 AM »
They need big time coaching to improve the offense. Unless the HC can make adjustments, they will struggle all season.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2018, 10:30:34 AM »
It does feel that Markus dribbles one or two extra dribbles on that pick and pop, and the defense is able to close on the shooter. I don’t know if it’s the length of the defense that he has to find a better angle or if he’s hesitant to give up the ball.

The ball movement seems to have stalled this year. It seems like we are just dribbling around the perimeter and hoping one pass gets someone open.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2018, 10:37:16 AM »
Never understood Wojo's hatred of Rowsey. It took a screaming Diener to give Rowsey a shot at all for minutes. Then became the best player, and had the shortest leash possible.

Yep.  Rowsey leash was definitely shorter than Howard's.  I have NO doubt there were many playing time/coaching decisions that were made by Wojo that Travis thought WTF.  The assistants can only do so much.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2018, 11:05:35 AM »
Markus is not really a point guard.  He is a shooting guard, who when he has an open shot is extremely dangerous.  Comparing him to former MU point guards is a waste of typing.  Been discussed over and over.

I wish we had Maurice Lucas again, but again wishing for former players and inserting them in the current lineup is not logical.

Wojo and staff probably didn't get a lot of sleep last night and lets see how the lineup is adjusted on Friday.

This team, once again, has no inside game. Once the shooters go cold, it's game over. Not scoring for the first half of the second half in last nights game is unbeleivable. I thought Morrow would give us a little Maurice on the inside but he appears lost. Lose again on Friday and I will really wonder if we are just going to get a repeat of last season.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2018, 11:06:29 AM »
Yep.  Rowsey leash was definitely shorter than Howard's.  I have NO doubt there were many playing time/coaching decisions that were made by Wojo that Travis thought WTF.  The assistants can only do so much.

Have any other assistants left under Wojo? I'm sure I'm projecting a little here, but Wojo seems inflexible, which could be frustrating for assistants who want to try other things.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2018, 11:29:02 AM »
Maybee heel grow 8 inches, hey?
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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2018, 11:29:37 AM »
Phelps left after year 1 for Arizona, I think. Carrawell went to Duke after last season...no loss

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2018, 11:52:04 AM »
...and I think that is passed onto the players by the Coach. Wojo is a high strung guy and even when he seems composed you can see he is ready to explode. He is always yelling in the huddles.

You might be right, so where does he go from here?  Coach K. has a lot of composure, confidence, whatever.   Back in the day UCLA coach Wooden exuded confidence and composure.  Without those characterestics the team panics, and we have "hero" ball. I don't think ex's and o's or motivational PEP talks mean that much, especially in the game.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2018, 11:56:38 PM »
Wojo is still a bit high strung, but he's calmed a ton since year one.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2018, 02:17:59 AM »
Markus is going to declare and create the greatest Ewing Theory in the history of college basketball. 
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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2018, 06:07:18 AM »
You might be right, so where does he go from here?  Coach K. has a lot of composure, confidence, whatever.   Back in the day UCLA coach Wooden exuded confidence and composure.  Without those characterestics the team panics, and we have "hero" ball. I don't think ex's and o's or motivational PEP talks mean that much, especially in the game.

Buzz Williams, Bobby Knight, Kevin O'Neil. There's examples both ways. I think you need to have the correct players who respond to that intensity.
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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2018, 06:23:06 AM »
Buzz Williams, Bobby Knight, Kevin O'Neil. There's examples both ways. I think you need to have the correct players who respond to that intensity.

Might I add Bob Huggins? His mercury looked ready to bust the thermometer almost the entire game, yet his players loved to respond to that.
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« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2018, 06:25:41 AM »
Anyone who attended a Coach K practice could tell you about his "composure."  He has a very well crafted public image.

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« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2018, 07:40:13 AM »
Anyone who attended a Coach K practice could tell you about his "composure."  He has a very well crafted public image.

Practice is one thing, game time another.
My issue is that when panic sets in, among the players, the kids, it is not the time for the coach to panic.  Leadership needs to convey confidence and that is what game time composure accomplishes.
Other unglued coaches are the exceptions who prove the rule.  I could list dozens of coaches who maintain composure during games.
Also, this is 2018, not the 80's, 90's, or 2000's.
Our team knows what to do, they have high basketball I.Q.'s.  ( Hate that trite phrase)
The hero ball problem is emotional and therefore needs an emotional solution.

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Re: How Many Times
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2018, 10:35:57 AM »
Markus is going to declare and create the greatest Ewing Theory in the history of college basketball.

Wouldn't that be something. I do wonder how Koby and Markus would coexist in the same backcourt.

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« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2018, 11:35:50 AM »
Wouldn't that be something. I do wonder how Koby and Markus would coexist in the same backcourt.
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