Good Job Team Superbar

[mu03eng]

Not trying to restart the thread and I have zero issue with the Millennial Voters thread getting locked, but I thought it should be noted that I thought everyone did a good job of being civil and confrontational without being contentious. There may just be hope for this place yet and if we're gonna get yelled at for stupid stuff we do, we should also acknowledge when we do semi-competent stuff.

[reinko]

Not trying to restart the thread and I have zero issue with the Millennial Voters thread getting locked, but I thought it should be noted that I thought everyone did a good job of being civil and confrontational without being contentious. There may just be hope for this place yet and if we're gonna get yelled at for stupid stuff we do, we should also acknowledge when we do semi-competent stuff.

[MU82]

Not trying to restart the thread and I have zero issue with the Millennial Voters thread getting locked, but I thought it should be noted that I thought everyone did a good job of being civil and confrontational without being contentious. There may just be hope for this place yet and if we're gonna get yelled at for stupid stuff we do, we should also acknowledge when we do semi-competent stuff.

Oh, shut the eff up. I hate you.

[GB Warrior]

Challenge accepted

[mu03eng]

Oh, shut the eff up. I hate you.

[Pakuni]

[MU82]

Well, you do have game ... so what I said earlier? Never mind! I love you, brother!!

[GGGG]

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This thread has potential.

[mu03eng]

[mu03eng]

Well, you do have game ... so what I said earlier? Never mind! I love you, brother!!

[Benny B]

The lock was not Rocky's best moment.

I'll admit, a few pages in I was ignoring the gerrymandering string and focused on the compulsory voting string, which is not only apolitical in nature, but had devolved into a discussion on constitutionality, which again, was apolitical in nature.

Look no further than the facts that:

1) You had two hard core liberals taking a hard position against something that many political scientists believe would lean slightly to the benefit of Democrats.  Only in DPRK could that be considered a political discussion.

2) Gerrymandering is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue... it's a majority party vs. minority party issue, i.e. apolitical.

In other words, neither topic was about politics... both are issues that need to be tackled by everyone (fatties, asses and owls) for the good of American society.

Pretty soon mods will be locking threads if we type in red , blue, or lavender.

[mu_hilltopper]

A bag of Arby's will clear your problem right up.

[MU82]

The lock was not Rocky's best moment.

I'll admit, a few pages in I was ignoring the gerrymandering string and focused on the compulsory voting string, which is not only apolitical in nature, but had devolved into a discussion on constitutionality, which again, was apolitical in nature.

Look no further than the facts that:

1) You had two hard core liberals taking a hard position against something that many political scientists believe would lean slightly to the benefit of Democrats.  Only in DPRK could that be considered a political discussion.

2) Gerrymandering is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue... it's a majority party vs. minority party issue, i.e. apolitical.

In other words, neither topic was about politics... both are issues that need to be tackled by everyone (fatties, asses and owls) for the good of American society.

Pretty soon mods will be locking threads if we type in red , blue, or lavender.

I won't debate rocky's decision. He's allowed, and we all know it before we post. I mean, the mods eventually lock every Superbar thread I post, even if they have nothing to do with politics. It's a fun little "game."

I do agree with you about the subject matter, however, Benny. It was interesting, relevant and important. It's a perfect, timely issue for intelligent, college-educated people to discuss.

But hey, if it was deemed too political, we can always turn to the LATEST mass shooting, perpetrated just yesterday. 12 dead at a California nightclub's "college night." The killer has been identified as an ex-Marine.

[rocky_warrior]

The lock was not Rocky's best moment.

Agreed. I've had so many great moments in life, a simple click of the lock button is going to be way down the list!

[MU82]

Oh, and I forgot to add "thoughts and prayers."

Management regrets the error.

[tower912]

12 dead at a California nightclub's "college night." The killer has been identified as an ex-Marine.

Like I said in the now locked PTSD thread, it is not something to make jokes about or use as an insult. 

[MU82]

Like I said in the now locked PTSD thread, it is not something to make jokes about or use as an insult.

Obviously, I was not suggesting that this had anything to do with the Marines. It just goes to show that anybody can do this stuff, even if they aren't "invaders" coming in a caravan.

Another sad day in America. They do seem to be getting closer together.

[GGGG]

This thread has potential.

Didn't live up to it unfortunately.

[Benny B]

Obviously, I was not suggesting that this had anything to do with the Marines. It just goes to show that anybody can do this stuff, even if they aren't "invaders" coming in a caravan.

Another sad day in America. They do seem to be getting closer together.

Every day another person puts their faith into our elected leaders is a sad day.  So they can't be closer together.

Personally, I'm still waiting for the promised ban on bump stocks.... that would be a good start, but thanks to Pakuni et al with their "unconstitutional" whining, I'm sure that will never happen.

[mu03eng]

Didn't live up to it unfortunately.

[MU82]

Every day another person puts their faith into our elected leaders is a sad day.  So they can't be closer together.

Personally, I'm still waiting for the promised ban on bump stocks.... that would be a good start, but thanks to Pakuni et al with their "unconstitutional" whining, I'm sure that will never happen.

Yeah ... remember the bump stock ban?

That executive order wouldn't have appealed to all the anger/hate/fear folks, though.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Every day another person puts their faith into our elected leaders is a sad day.  So they can't be closer together.

Personally, I'm still waiting for the promised ban on bump stocks.... that would be a good start, but thanks to Pakuni et al with their "unconstitutional" whining, I'm sure that will never happen.

"2A couldn't be clearer in our 'right to bear bump stocks' -- so suck it, libtards!"  -- Ted "I pooped in my pants to avoid Vietnam" Nugent.

[mu03eng]

[Benny B]

See... this is the problem: we're having a perfectly decent conversation - hell, even 82 is staying behind the line - when people's inability to refrain from dumbassery, e.g. the below, threatens to shut down discussion on something that really needs to be discussed in society but cannot because of said dumbassery.

"2A couldn't be clearer in our 'right to bear bump stocks' -- so suck it, libtards!"  -- Ted "I pooped in my pants to avoid Vietnam" Nugent.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

See... this is the problem: we're having a perfectly decent conversation - hell, even 82 is staying behind the line - when people's inability to refrain from dumbassery, e.g. the below, threatens to shut down discussion on something that really needs to be discussed in society but cannot because of said dumbassery.

Sorry Benny, I guess I should have put it in teal for you.  Apologies you didn't get it.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Yeah ... remember the bump stock ban?

That executive order wouldn't have appealed to all the anger/hate/fear folks, though.

I just read this yesterday from the November The Atlantic.  I came away feeling that maybe there is compromise somewhere and reasonableness is on both sides.

The Bullet in My Arm
I grew up in a gun-loving town in Alabama. My grandfather’s store sells firearms. But only after I was shot did I begin to understand America’s complicated relationship with guns.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/the-bullet-in-my-arm/568369/

[mu03eng]

I just read this yesterday from the November The Atlantic.  I came away feeling that maybe there is compromise somewhere and reasonableness is on both sides.

The Bullet in My Arm
I grew up in a gun-loving town in Alabama. My grandfather’s store sells firearms. But only after I was shot did I begin to understand America’s complicated relationship with guns.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/the-bullet-in-my-arm/568369/

Oh there is definitely compromise to be had amongst the people. There is very likely no compromise to be had amongst the politicians.

[MU82]

There is room for all kinds of compromise.

We had a big thread going on this subject about 20 mass shootings ago, back when chicos wasn't a Cubbie-loving Democrat, and several reasonable people suggested several easy, common-sense ideas. Not a single one would "guarantee" that folks still won't get killed by guns, but together they might have saved some lives.

The gun lovers, however, want none of them. Even though 80%+ of Americans do.

As said earlier, even the famous call for banning bump stocks ... crickets now. Close the gun-show loophole? Oh goodness no. Ban those on the no-fly list from buying guns? Hail no. Mandatory gun-safety classes? Nope.

And so it goes.

At the rate these are happening now, there will probably be another by next week.

But yeah ... the free press is the enemy of the people.

[rocket surgeon]

hows about changing the term "gun lovers" to pro 2nd amendment in order to be a little more civil.  your term has a little unnecessary "edginess" to it, shall we say-thank you, ok, carry on

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

hows about changing the term "gun lovers" to pro 2nd amendment in order to be a little more civil.  your term has a little unnecessary "edginess" to it, shall we say-thank you, ok, carry on

I don't think pro 2nd amendment is accurate. I would guess that most people who are for more gun control are also pro 2nd amendment. I would also guess that a lot of (I'm not sure about most) gun lovers are also okay with some increased level of gun control. Herein lies part of the problem, any step towards gun control no matter how small is viewed as "anti 2nd amendment."

[GGGG]

hows about changing the term "gun lovers" to pro 2nd amendment in order to be a little more civil.  your term has a little unnecessary "edginess" to it, shall we say-thank you, ok, carry on

How about death lovers. That’s the most accurate of all.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

How about death lovers. That’s the most accurate of all.

Hyperbole much?   

[tower912]

Chico's used to say it about people who are pro choice.  So, yes, it is absolutely over the top hyperbole.

Drawing that kind of line and placing that kind of label accomplishes nothing except to make the tribes entrench further.

[rocket surgeon]

How about death lovers. That’s the most accurate of all.

  great teamwork there sparky...idiot

[Benny B]

Sorry Benny, I guess I should have put it in teal for you.  Apologies you didn't get it.

Teal shouldn’t give you carte blanche to say whatever you want about anyone without consequence.

[MU82]

hows about changing the term "gun lovers" to pro 2nd amendment in order to be a little more civil.  your term has a little unnecessary "edginess" to it, shall we say-thank you, ok, carry on

Well, they are gun lovers. But sure, call 'em whatever you want. They won't budge.

Remember when Tiny -- in an EXTREMELY rare bout of empathy in the wake of Parkland -- actually suggested that guns be taken away from folks without giving due process?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

Pence and several other gun lovers almost had a heart attack on the spot. A couple of days later, LaPierre had Tiny over to NRA HQ and that was that. Never mentioned again. Even the bump-stock thing ... crickets.

Too much money, too much clout, too many influential votes. Carnage? Who cares? We can always offer thoughts and prayers.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Teal shouldn’t give you carte blanche to say whatever you want about anyone without consequence.

Hold on -- is your concern that I've somehow defamed Ted Nugent?

[MU82]

Hold on -- is your concern that I've somehow defamed Ted Nugent?

Nugent is so misunderstood. Just because he threatened to put a gun in Obama's mouth and pull the trigger, he just can't get a break.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

[mu_hilltopper]

A fitting end to this thread.  #SadTrombone.